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Pork is HALAL

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    imrankhawaja
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    I think that is because spirits are far more tricky than pig

    its interesting thing to note why spirits and things related with spirirts like wine are catagorised as seperate subject. we can understand it the way how (muslims)react to PORK compared to Alchohal.

    if pork get mix in FOOD we will not eat.
    with alcohal its different GOD knows its uses and sub uses.
    example GOD said he made scented seeds for the benefit of people(ch 55).
    these scented seeds like cardmom etc we use it for food as well as fragrance(perfume).

    the fragrance take a new shape of industry what we know as perfumes with the help of flowers too(even flowers are serving purpose)

    fragrance always play positive vibes on humans. thats just one sub-use of alchohal if it was in catagory of PORK then muslim kids even have struggling touching perfume bottles.

    Big favour of author of quran otheriwse i will be struggling applying perfume. the habbit of mine when i just start atteding my school.

    we cant SUB-use pork anywhere at all including their fats we usually use fat for oiling,making soap etc.

    its not TRICKY its very logical

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      hawk99
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      ( porky guy)

      rotfl

      lol RESULTS 1 pork is halal. 2 MATH is haram as per (FE) !

      nope rotfl

      ENERGY===>FLATEARTH===>HANZEER and next is production of (stupids) in output.
      if u dnt follow the guesswork then u r kaffir. lmao.

      Hmmmm?. a contest for who can start the most ridiculous thread hmmm... not bad

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        jkhan
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        Dear believers....
        Let the mocking people keep mocking,, it's a virus.... By mocking is there knowledge? Only true believers will keep away from such.... Coz true believers will not mock here... They will only mock when the things are settled on the day of ressurection to the very people who mocked them here .... Quran says... . Patience befit...
        God guide us...

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          not everyone agrees with religion / insanity ..

          (Aidid Safar) Indeed it is only prohibited on you the carrion and the blood and the contaminated meat and what has been legalised by way of - for other than God. Thus whoever is strained without malice and not being deliberate - surely there is no fault on him. Indeed God is forgiving - merciful.

          cf http//aididsafar.com/translation.html

          this makes sense....

          so there is no prohibition of pork in the above translation.

          no prohibition of pork in his Quran..

          no delusional mind for "FRESH MEAT IS HARAM" or worshipping SANTA CLAUS-LIKE GOD in the sky ... sorry but can't help it when people say GOD rotfl

          https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51402309_2278600089023236_143549893070290944_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2dc7da343d86c41a493a185cc5776aab&oe=5CB5B036

          Dude in basic 04 prohibited things God of course didn't say decayed food, is it really necessary to say like addressing to fools... No... but still God used the word in 2168 "O men! eat the LAWFUL and GOOD THINGS out of what is in the earth, and do not follow the footsteps of the Shaitan; surely he is your open enemy."

          It does not said HARAM..

          It does not said UNLAWFUL..

          so we can eat maggoty and stinking beef (cow, goat, chicken, rabbit, camel, horse) etc?

          We could use these rotten meats and sell it to customer for profit?

          You who have iman! do not ask about matters which, if they were made known to you, would make things difficult for you. If you do ask about them when the Qur´an is being sent down, they will be made known to you. Allah has ignored them. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, All-Forbearing. (5101)

          according to the above ayat, it is lawful and halal to sell maggoty and stinking meat to customers, even it is not good... and since nothing in the Quran said it is HARAM / UNLAWFUL. It is HALAL / LAWFUL.

          YES?

          NO?

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              Sultan_Brandon
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              The Arabic word for pig is

              The Qur'an uses the same word when it says that pork is forbidden in multiple ayat.

              It does not say that only Muslims are prohibited which means that its prohibited for every jinn and human regardless of religion which includes Jews.

              This "Mahdi Ibrahim" acts like a dajjal that posts ambiguous nonsense about worshiping nature or some crap that nobody can even understand, including him. Almost to where he's deliberately trying to distort Islam and get us to sin and worship idols.

              And the meat of pig is not the same as other meat. There's reasons why God forbids it.
              https//steemit.com/science/@princessola/13-problems-with-pork-1b849c41f5356

              So seek forgiveness from God and tell the truth. I'm a clear warner.

              In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful

              6119 And why should you not eat that on which the name of God has been mentioned, when He has fully detailed to you what has been made unlawful; except what you are forced to? Many misguide by their desires without knowledge; your Lord is fully aware of the transgressors.

              378 And from among them is a group who twist their tongues with the Book so that you may think it is from the Book, while it is not from the Book, and they say it is from God while it is not from God, and they say about God lies while they know.

              3932 Who is more wicked than he who lies about God, and denies the truth when it comes to him? Is there not in Hell an abode for the rejecters?

              5119 God will say "This is a Day when the truth will benefit the truthful; they will have estates with rivers flowing beneath them, abiding therein eternally; God has become pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. Such is the greatest victory."

              592 And obey God and obey the messenger, and be aware. If you turn away then know that it is the duty of Our messenger to deliver clearly.

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                There is no consistency in your argument / interpretation / translation.

                https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51515994_2278576255692286_1089165012905230336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=5cb7738a9b8149b541e7544ad8360e4c&oe=5CBB4488

                WE MADE HARAM FOR THE JEWS every animal with an undivided hoof, and in respect of cattle and sheep, We made their fat haram for them, except what is attached to their backs or guts or mixed up with bone. That is how We repaid them for their insolence. And WE CERTAINLY SPEAK THE TRUTH (not the Torah/Bible). (6146)
                .
                (nothing mentioned about pork was made haram for the Jews, accordingly)
                .
                The FOOD OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK (pork) is also halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (halal foods and pork), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)

                Why don't they research the (interpretation and translation of the) Quran? Don't they realize that if it(s interpretation and translation) was from someone other than Allah/TRUTH (falsehood), they would find many discrepancies in it. (482)

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  This "Mahdi Ibrahim" is a delusional dajjal

                  That's cheap in order to defeat valid argument.. !

                  and no worry about Dajjal

                  Allah already made clear who is the Dajjal...

                  https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30595117_2084468608436386_4838590417832092882_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2b9b36c5c29558d9275cd5c9c0cedd61&oe=5CC19764

                  https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41849357_2199907736892472_1409519300594630656_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=8965bf7437fedd73ef778a9a7be6cc93&oe=5CF203D2

                  and the human shyatan

                  https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29695400_2081173345432579_6477880373404555882_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=563420c9324395c2f7b51548ea8537ff&oe=5D005A2D

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    hahahaha look at ?DAJAL?

                    he got a full getup of modern molvee.

                    wherez his third EYE ?

                    his eye glasses from RAY-ban.

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      Hmmmm?. a contest for who can start the most ridiculous thread hmmm... not bad

                      rotfl
                      it will b hard competetion ( conspricy vs stupidity )

                      everything is in pair similar yet disimilar lol

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                        Sultan_Brandon
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                        Dajjal is a false prophet like the one who started this thread and who has yet to provide what he thinks the Arabic word for pig is after being challenged multiple times because he knows that its in the Qur'an. He also adds (pork) in parenthesis to 55 while the Qur'an does not have that word. An obvious distortion and God is Fully-Aware, be He Glorified.

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          That's very simple...

                          Some are insane / stupid / retard / moron and others are not, and that the difference is determined by NATURE and not by cultural forces, factors, forced justice or religion.

                          If the truth were to follow their whims and desires / insanity / stupidity / retard / moronSSENGER, the heavens and the earth and everyone in them would have been brought to ruin. (2371)

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            Dajjal is a false prophet like the one who started this thread and who has yet to provide what he thinks the Arabic word for pig is after being challenged multiple times because he knows that its خنزير in the Qur'an.

                            not according to the Quran

                            The (الْأَعْرَابُ) arabs/ ideology/ politics/ Muhammadism are THE WORST in rejection and hypocrisy , and more likely not to know Islam (surrender to Natural Order and make peace with Nature). (997)

                            Dajjal, is the WORST in hypocrisy.

                            But the Quran said, Arab/Muhammadism is THE WORST (than Dajjal? Not likely...)

                            Therefore, Arab/Muhammadism is DAJJAL.

                            • Let see the Dajjal/Muhammadism reject verse 997 or verses against their Dajjalism
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                              Sultan_Brandon
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                              You're proving me right by distorting the Qur'an with your words in parenthesis that don't exist in those ayat or even coming close to quoting them correctly.

                              And Islam is not "surrendering to natural order", whatever that is. Its submission to God alone and being righteous.

                              In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful

                              985 And they were not commanded except to serve God and be loyal to His system, monotheists, and hold the contact prayer and contribute towards purification. Such is the valuable system.

                              378 And from among them is a group who twist their tongues with the Book so that you may think it is from the Book, while it is not from the Book, and they say it is from God while it is not from God, and they say about God lies while they know.

                              4125 And who is better in the system than the one who submits himself to God, and he is a good doer, and he follows the creed of Abraham in monotheism? And God took Abraham as a friend.

                              822 The worst creatures with God are the deaf and dumb who do not comprehend.

                              2371 And if the truth were to follow their desires, then the heavens and the earth and all who are in them would have been corrupted. No, We have come to them with their reminder, but from their reminder they are turning away.

                              5154 So turn away from them; you will not be blamed.

                              2269 He grants wisdom to whom He chooses, and whoever is granted wisdom has been given much good. Only those who possess intelligence will remember.

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                And Islam is not "surrendering to natural order", whatever that even means. Its submission to God alone and being righteous.

                                So your Islam is KAFIR OF THE SUNNATULLAH?

                                A. Yes

                                B. No

                                A or B?

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                                  Sultan_Brandon
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                                  In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful

                                  4137 And from among His signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate to the sun, nor the moon; you shall prostrate to God who has created them, if it is truly Him you serve.

                                  1042 And there are some of them who listen to you; but can you make the deaf hear, if they do not comprehend?

                                  7042 So let them talk in vain and play, until they meet their Day which they are promised.

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                                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                    A or B?

                                    Is your Islam KAFIR OF THE SUNNATULLAH?

                                    Yes ?

                                    No?

                                    https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30582285_2083695455180368_4678608107862980666_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=28514404ddce6e074026ef2d41d72e36&oe=5CFEFACE

                                    I've just proved that these people are Dajjal and practicing DAJJALISM; in DISGUISE AS ISLAM. Has nothing to do with ISLAM AT ALL.

                                    On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

                                    They think they deceive Allah / Sunnatullah and those who have iman (in the Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / EcoLogic / Energy). They deceive no one but themselves but they are not aware of it. (29)

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                                      good_logic
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                                      Peace Mahdi.
                                      If you take your claim seriously and you are saying this, quote

                                      That's cheap in order to defeat valid argument..

                                      Then you are ignoring my argument and pretending not to notice this
                                      Please list all the items forbidden for the Jews.

                                      You say " has Allah forgotten to mention pork in 6146?" What about blood, dead animal, food for idols? They are not in the verse either.
                                      How can you justify your argument that "pork is halal?"
                                      Only by bringing all the items forbidden for the Jews or other verses from Qoran to justify , can you have an argument.

                                      Or recognise that 6146 does bnot support your argument and we move on.
                                      Please do not deviate from this. Thank you.
                                      GOD bless you.
                                      Peace.

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        Please list all the items forbidden for the Jews.
                                        ...
                                        How can you justify your argument that "pork is halal?"

                                        I'm done wasting time with strawman and redherring...

                                        You need LOGIC, seriously.

                                        The issue IS NOT what is forbidden for the Jews. (#strawman #redherring)

                                        The issue what IS NOT FORBIDDEN for the Jews.

                                        Because what IS NOT FORBIDDEN for the Jews is halal for muslim.

                                        The FOOD (pork) OF THOSE GIVEN THE BOOK is halal for you ... anyone who rejects iman (in pork as halal), his actions will COME TO NOTHING and in the Next World he will be among the LOSERS. (55)

                                        16 pages.. just to make you understand the above argument / logical deduction; and FAILED.

                                        JUSTIFIED.

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                                          Sultan_Brandon
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                                          Fake Mahdi,

                                          Tell us which Arabic word in 55 means "pork" like you quote in your translation

                                          Then tell us where any of these ayat that forbid eating pork specifically say "Muslims only" (6145, 16115, 2173, 53)

                                          These are two easy challenges that you should have no problem answering for the sake of knowing the truth, God willing.

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