DO AYATS 5:5 AND 6:146, PRECLUDE THE PIG AS BEING HARAM...?
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lol x10!! This explains everything! lol
Oh man! That's priceless. lol
Joe
LOL!!! Absolutely priceless!!! I've been laughing non-stop for the past 15mins. It's so true that, if you let some people just ramble on long enough and not interrupt them, they will invariably tell on themselves--in his case--an active addict! How does that saying go?..."it is better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt". Ba ha ha ha ha!! lol And he continually calls me misguided, what a hoot he is! lol
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"it is better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"
You dont even have to open your mouth. You have made that pretty clear to everyone a long time ago http//www.geocities.com/bigjaxal/s1.gif
Jaxal wrote
I on occasion smoke weed.
Nuff said. lol
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Allah made an entire category/species of animals haram to the Jews i.e. those with claws. Now, given the very fundamental fact/reality that pigs do not have claws, absolutely precludes their species of animals as being one of the species of haram animals.
Your argument that pig's don't have claws is somewhat in doubt when you read about anatomical texts on pig feet.
http//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=482919&dopt=Abstract
They actually have two extra digits that don't quite touch the ground which are dew claws (small claws).
http//www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=96
http//evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IIAanatomy.shtml
Cattle also have remnant digits but are much less developed (?visible at all) than the pig which has visible vestiges.
The accessory, or dew, claws have short conical horn capsules. Those of the pig are quite well developed.
http//137.222.110.150/calnet/Lfoot/page3.htm
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Salam PB,
PBM Ayat 55, very clearly states that, the food of the People of the Book was/is halal for the Muslims and our food is lawful for them.
Khi- I can easily refute that. The verse does NOT however say that ALL the food of the people of the book is halal. I can give you an example from the Quran. Consider this verse
The Jews even said, "GOD's hand is tied down!" ...
Notice GOD saying "the Jews said" but we know there are righteous Jews too even today who do NOT claim this. Does it mean GOD is wrong or does it show that the grammatical construct in Arabic does NOT mean "the whole of the jews" but a particular portion of th whole? Id say the latter one.
Btw pig was NEVER halal for the people of the book and even evangelists today like Dr. Kent Hovind are against the eating of pork and use the Bible to support that prohibtion. GOD Bless! -
PEACE, IDMKHIZAR,
Khi- I can easily refute that. The verse does NOT however say that ALL the food of the people of the book is halal. I can give you an example from the Quran. Consider this verse
The Jews even said, "GOD's hand is tied down!" ...
Notice GOD saying "the Jews said" but we know there are righteous Jews too even today who do NOT claim this. Does it mean GOD is wrong or does it show that the grammatical construct in Arabic does NOT mean "the whole of the jews" but a particular portion of th whole? Id say the latter one.Sorry, but your analogy fails and you did not refute my claim, here's why. It is NOT necessary for the ayat to mention all the foods are halal, just the ones which are not. For the pig to be haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran, you/we are required to have the ayat which says that the pig was haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran, otherwise, we would be in violation of ayat 16116--making somethig haram which Allah did not definitively state was/is haram. So, please post the ayat where Allah says that the pig was haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran.
Btw pig was NEVER halal for the people of the book and even evangelists today like Dr. Kent Hovind are against the eating of pork and use the Bible to support that prohibtion. GOD Bless!
If the pig was not halal for the People of the Book, then, Allah, would have stated that in Al-Quran, but He did not. He DEFINITIVELY made haram to the Jews/a people who came before Al-Quran, ALL animals with CLAWS and the fat of two animals--the sheep and the oxen. If the evangelists are against eating pork, it is not as a result of the command of Allah, but as a result of their own desire and superstition.
Peace.
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PEACE, TRUTH,
PRIEST_BOKMEI Allah made an entire category/species of animals haram to the Jews i.e. those with claws. Now, given the very fundamental fact/reality that pigs do not have claws, absolutely precludes their species of animals as being one of the species of haram animals.
Your argument that pig's don't have claws is somewhat in doubt when you read about anatomical texts on pig feet.
Truth, please live up to your user name, o.k.? Pigs have hooves NOT claws and any grade school child will tell you that. Don't you think that Allah knows the difference between a hoof and a claw?? Come on, don't sacrifice Al-Quran to maintain your superstitious notions.
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Sorry, but your analogy fails and you did not refute my claim, here's why. It is NOT necessary for the ayat to mention all the foods are halal, just the ones which are not. For the pig to be haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran, you/we are required to have the ayat which says that the pig was haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran, otherwise, we would be in violation of ayat 16116--making somethig haram which Allah did not definitively state was/is haram. So, please post the ayat where Allah says that the pig was haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran.
why you asking us to prove it, how anbout you go and ask a jew?
you are really confused man, but I tell ya, you are funny, thanks for the laugh lol
Btw pig was NEVER halal for the people of the book and even evangelists today like Dr. Kent Hovind are against the eating of pork and use the Bible to support that prohibtion. GOD Bless!
If the pig was not halal for the People of the Book, then, Allah, would have stated that in Al-Quran, but He did not. He DEFINITIVELY made haram to the Jews/a people who came before Al-Quran, ALL animals with CLAWS and the fat of two animals--the sheep and the oxen. If the evangelists are against eating pork, it is not as a result of the command of Allah, but as a result of their own desire and superstition.
Peace.confusion, confusion
very clear you are,
those food mentioned were allowed, then they become forbidden as a punishment to their arrogance that you simulate really good
now we need an explanation in how you follow the order of Allah in the Quran to BELIEVE IN THE PEVIOUS BOOKS SENT BY HIM?
By Allah, I'm going to corner you using the Quran lol
peace
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Sorry, but your analogy fails and you did not refute my claim, here's why. It is NOT necessary for the ayat to mention all the foods are halal, just the ones which are not. For the pig to be haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran, you/we are required to have the ayat which says that the pig was haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran, otherwise, we would be in violation of ayat 16116--making somethig haram which Allah did not definitively state was/is haram. So, please post the ayat where Allah says that the pig was haram to the Jews/those who came before Al-Quran.
why you asking us to prove it, how anbout you go and ask a jew?
What?, does a Jew no more than Allah? My God, you are simply out of touch. lol
you are really confused man, but I tell ya, you are funny, thanks for the laugh
Please don't project your character defects on to me. The only confused and superstitious here is you. You cannot, via Al-Quran, prove any of the nonsense you are spouting lol
Btw pig was NEVER halal for the people of the book and even evangelists today like Dr. Kent Hovind are against the eating of pork and use the Bible to support that prohibtion. GOD Bless!
If the pig was not halal for the People of the Book, then, Allah, would have stated that in Al-Quran, but He did not. He DEFINITIVELY made haram to the Jews/a people who came before Al-Quran, ALL animals with CLAWS and the fat of two animals--the sheep and the oxen. If the evangelists are against eating pork, it is not as a result of the command of Allah, but as a result of their own desire and superstition.
Peace.confusion, confusion
very clear you are,
Please don't project your character defects on to me. The only confused and superstitious here is you. You cannot, via Al-Quran, prove any of the nonsense you are spouting lol
those food mentioned were allowed, then they become forbidden as a punishment to their arrogance that you simulate really good
Do you KNOW for a fact what foods were made haram to the Jews, do you, smart boy? If so, go to Al-Quran and show us. Where, in Al-Quran, does Allah say that the pig was haram to the Jews?
now we need an explanation in how you follow the order of Allah in the Quran to BELIEVE IN THE PEVIOUS BOOKS SENT BY HIM?
By Allah, I'm going to corner you using the Quran lol
LOL!!You are truly out of you mind rotfl
Your above ad hominem comments...are not a refutation of my analysis nor does it advance your own analysis. The only thing you've exposed is that, you are determined to support SUPERSTITION in derogation of Allah's Quran and Truth. Allah, did not tell you to take any of the previous Books for your Guidance along with Al-Quran, and, if you maintain that He does, then you are a liar, mate. Again, the corrupted/doubtful Torah, claims that animals with undivided hoofs were haram, however, Al-Quran contradicts that, in that, it says that only animals with claws were haram to the Jews. Now, which Book do you believe has the correct account? Don't you think Allah knows the difference between a hoof and a claw, though apparently, you and Marie do not? lol
Your "argument" has be thoroughly dismantled. If you wish to serve your gods--SUPERSTITION and CONJECTURE, then that is fine by me. bravo
Oh, yeah and...stop being a...SNEAK.
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My analysis that PGM is not a muslim and just pretending to be, I met a few of those online but always exposed them
I may be wrong, but I will see if he "the non arabic speaker truely understands the arabic words"
now if he kept ranting about the same subject, he has to be one or the other
- He is obssessed with pigs
- He is faking his islam and just to stir the air between muslims
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My analysis that PGM is not a muslim and just pretending to be, I met a few of those online but always exposed them
I may be wrong, but I will see if he "the non arabic speaker truely understands the arabic words"
now if he kept ranting about the same subject, he has to be one or the other
- He is obssessed with pigs
- He is faking his islam and just to stir the air between muslims
Your above ad hominem...is not a refutation of my analysis nor does it advance your own analysis. The only thing you've exposed is that, you are determined to support SUPERSTITION in derogation of Allah's Quran and truth. Allah, did not tell you to take any of the previous Books for your Guidance along with Al-Quran, and, if you maintain that He does, then you are a liar, mate. Again, the corrupted/doubtful Torah, claims that animals with undivided hoofs were haram, however, Al-Quran contradicts that, in that, it says that only animals with claws were haram to the Jews. Now, which Book do you believe has the correct account? Don't you think Allah knows the difference between a hoof and a claw, though apparently, you and Marie do not? lol
Your "argument" has be thoroughly dismantled. If you wish to serve your gods--SUPERSTITION and CONJECTURE, then that is fine by me. bravo
Oh, yeah and...stop being a...SNEAK...and now a...SLANDERER as well.
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Another profile record added to Profiler 2005 database
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Another profile record added to Profiler 2005 database
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Your above ad hominem...is not a refutation of my analysis nor does it advance your own analysis. The only thing you've exposed is that, you are determined to support SUPERSTITION in derogation of Allah's Quran and truth. Allah, did not tell you to take any of the previous Books for your Guidance along with Al-Quran, and, if you maintain that He does, then you are a liar, mate. Again, the corrupted/doubtful Torah, claims that animals with undivided hoofs were haram, however, Al-Quran contradicts that, in that, it says that only animals with claws were haram to the Jews. Now, which Book do you believe has the correct account? Don't you think Allah knows the difference between a hoof and a claw, though apparently, you and Marie do not? lol
Your "argument" has been thoroughly dismantled. If you wish to serve your gods--SUPERSTITION and CONJECTURE, then that is fine by me. bravo
Oh, yeah and...stop being a...SNEAK.
Oh, btw, When you turn to personal attacks, you scream out that you have been thoroughly proved wrong....loser lol
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Please mate
Profiler 2005 does not accept duplicates
can you come with something new so the program has enough info to profile you?
cheers wink
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Please mate
Profiler 2005 does not accept duplicates
can you come with something new so the program has enough info to profile you?
cheers wink
Your above ad hominem...is not a refutation of my analysis nor does it advance your own analysis. The only thing you've exposed is that, you are determined to support SUPERSTITION in derogation of Allah's Quran and truth. Allah, did not tell you to take any of the previous Books for your Guidance along with Al-Quran, and, if you maintain that He does, then you are a liar, mate. Again, the corrupted/doubtful Torah, claims that animals with undivided hoofs were haram, however, Al-Quran contradicts that, in that, it says that only animals with claws were haram to the Jews. Now, which Book do you believe has the correct account? Don't you think Allah knows the difference between a hoof and a claw, though apparently, you and Marie do not? lol
Your "argument" has been thoroughly dismantled. If you wish to serve your gods--SUPERSTITION and CONJECTURE, then that is fine by me. bravo
Oh, yeah and...stop being a...SNEAK...and now a...SLANDERER.
Oh, btw, When you turn to personal attacks, you scream out that you have been thoroughly proved wrong....loser lol
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got you in no time
twisted
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got you in no time
twisted
When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out that you have been thoroughly proved wrong...accept that and move on.
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PBM and Babe the Aussie Pig
do you like this movie title?
there also PBM and Wesekh the Egyptian Pig
which one you prefer for my next blockbuster?
I'm not kiddin lol
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PBM and Babe the Aussie Pig
do you like this movie title?
there also PBM and Wesekh the Egyptian Pig
which one you prefer for my next blockbuster?
I'm not kiddin lol
When you resort to personal attacks, you scream out that you have been thoroughly proved wrong...accept that and move on.