Is Quran anti- secular?
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Obviously, adultery and fornication in thier own space is thier (as with anyone else's) own affair.
So, according to u, there would be no punishment of lashing for adultery among the christians living under muslim law?
There's no 'qisas' for marriage and divorce laws, i.e. whether you follow or not, there's no punishement stipulated unless of course, you cheat someone using marriage as a scam. If a marriage and divorce is straightfoward, there's no qisas or equal retribution.
Would the widows be required to wait for a period of 3 months to marry again?
Would they be required to follow divorce procedures like Quran says?
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So, according to u, there would be no punishment of lashing for adultery among the christians living under muslim law?
No. If they had sex publicly (in front of 4 ppl as the Quran stipulates) then there's punishment for them as with everyone else.
Would the widows be required to wait for a period of 3 months to marry again?
Would they be required to follow divorce procedures like Quran says?As far as my reading goes, there's no punishable requirement for divorce laws. If you follow them, you gain Allah's rewards. If you don't, you won't.
Would all other punishments(from Quran) apply to them?
Such as what ?
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PM, what did I tell you? Poor chap doesnt have the brains of a 6 yr old. It's good that now the women know what a sex pest he is so he can't pull off his lame lines on them.
Did I miss anything here? What are u talking about? shock
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No. If they had sex publicly (in front of 4 ppl as the Quran stipulates) then there's punishment for them as with everyone else.
oh, is this true for muslims as well?
Are muslims punishable only when they comit adultery in the presence of 4 people?! -
Did I miss anything here? What are u talking about?
If you want, I can deconstruct the statement Rizwan/Jaxal/Sex-pest made (Only proves that Quran was never meant to run a country). Its a statement made by a person who will never quote the Quran to you but claims to be muslim (sic).
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Mquran,
Did I miss anything here? What are u talking about?
If you want, I can deconstruct the statement Rizwan/Jaxal/Sex-pest made (Only proves that Quran was never meant to run a country). Its a statement made by a person who will never quote the Quran to you but claims to be muslim (sic).
I would appreciate it, if u do not resort to calling people 'names'.
I would kindly request u to address anyone expressing their views here, with respect, EVEN if u disagree with them.
There is no point in a discussion if there is no respect for fellow human beings. -
See in a normal civilized country, we dont need 4 people as witness. We need evidence. Again, one more reason why Quran was never meant to run a country.
Poor guy. He thinks ppl need to go round spying on others. This is what comes from not reading al-quraan but spending ones time pestering women.
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Oh, here we go again!
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I would appreciate it, if u do not resort to calling people 'names'.
I would kindly request u to address anyone expressing their views here, with respect, EVEN if u disagree with them.
There is no point in a discussion if there is no respect for fellow human beings.Im simply stating the truth about Rizwan. He has made a nuisance of himself and once precipitated a lady actually CRYING in a voice-chat room. As such, its best to be aware of this person.
In continuing, lets deconstruct Rizwan's statement Only proves that Quran was never meant to run a country
What is entailed from 'running a country' ?
Answer strategic , tactical and operational activities. In other words, long-term, mid-term and short-term goals.
Does al-quraan posess
a) strategic goals Yes. If one reads the story of Adam, it tells you how what a society based on Allah's concepts will be like.
b) tactical goals Yes, if one reads the stories of David and Solomon, it tells you about the tactics of running a mulk.
c) operational goals al-quraan's ethical code is precisely what all humans need in order to run a clean and efficient government.
In short, Rizwan is as usual, giving false accusations against the book. Try asking him for evidence if you will and you will see for yourself.
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I feel bad humiliating you. Almost felt pity for you. but looks like you havent learnt anything from your divorce.
Im simply stating the truth about Rizwan. He has made a nuisance of himself and once precipitated a lady actually CRYING in a voice-chat room. As such, its best to be aware of this person.
Ill take being a nuisance over being divorced anyday wink
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Oh, here we go again!
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I agree with u born again.
This attitude has to stop if we are to have a constructive discussion.
All of us are bound to differ in our views and opinions.
But that shouldnt permit anyone to use impolite behaviour in a public forum.
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Its a shame your victims don't agree with you (
Don't you know ? NO MEANS NO. No amount of crying would change that.
I feel bad humiliating you
Don't feel bad cause Im not here for my ego, unlike yourself. This is why unlike you, I wont cry if women tell me to sod off. The reason why you feel the need to resort to the egotistical dimension is due to the fact you don't have anything by way of SUBSTANCE. I'm not alone in my opinion of you either. I have noted ppl telling you to 'stfu' as you so eloquently put it. Even moderators have a hard time trying to get you to stay in topic for one very simple reason you can't conduct a discussion. I doubt you can conduct a nursery rhyme....
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I agree with u born again.
This attitude has to stop if we are to have a constructive discussion.
All of us are bound to differ in our views and opinions.
But that shouldnt permit anyone to use impolite behaviour in a public forum.
We need to respect each other and also the differences.PM, np, im done with old rizwan here. I have presented a refutation of Rizwans statement. Would you care to comment on it.
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Yea... i didnt think you had the balls either to do that
The Quran actually forbids me to go into the masjid of the people like yourself but you can come down my way if you want. But first tell me, what is it you intend? You want to sex-pester guys now since you've exhausted all possible female options?