Is Quran anti- secular?
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Hi Mquran,
My relationship with God is my own, and doesnt have to fit into ur definitions or infact anyone else's definitions of What one should believe.
I would only believe in what I can understand as truth. Yes, u and all r free to do the sameEspecially not the Quran's. Not once have you referred to it for your principles. That's your business of course only I find it strange that a 'peaceful MUSLIM' cannot backing from his own book.
I have quoted enough verses to u in discussions. And U have easily misinterpreted for ur benefit.
Here are some Quote that u need to really contemplate on, and I have quoted these to u umpteen times as well
4910 The Believers are but a single Brotherhood So make peace and reconciliation between your two (contending) brothers; and fear Allah, that ye may receive Mercy.
4911 O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former) Nor let some women laugh at others It may be that the (latter are better than the (former) Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.
4913 O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
Peace!
And if u have nothing but lack of manners, to offer repeatedly, please dont bother to have discussions with me.
Peace!
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Yes, U can have ur opinions.
My relationship with God is my own, and doesnt have to fit into ur definitions or infact anyone else's definitions of What one should believe.
I would only believe in what I can understand as truth. Yes, u and all r free to do the same.Khi- Salam. Ok no prblem but i wonder why your taking that risk and not study code-19 throughly. Why take a risk in not believing in a sign of GOD. Thats what im suggesting you to study it. Its upto you now. Btw PM are you male or female? GOD Bless!
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Forum has turned into a complete mess with shameless people who believe that the Qur'anic Laws are corrupt and do not hesitate with shamless claims Qur'anic Laws would be very much different if the revelation was in present time.
The level of intelligence of these idiots can be determined by the questions like speed of driving, computer hacking. They have no intelligence and no knowledge of the message.
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SaLaM PM and idmkhizar
And U have easily misinterpreted for ur benefit.
This is waht happens when you try to discuss with monkeys. And believe me, its a pun towards monkeys.
Ok no prblem but i wonder why your taking that risk and not study code-19 throughly.
Is studing code 19 , in any way , shape or form , neccessary towards my salvation?
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Peace be upon you,
Last but not least without code-19 the Quran cannot be proven thus your being bent on following Quranic laws is based simply on your heart's feeling rather than rationality.
Amazing logic, too bad for those before Rashad Khalifa ?
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SaLaM PM and idmkhizar
And U have easily misinterpreted for ur benefit.
This is waht happens when you try to discuss with monkeys. And believe me, its a pun towards monkeys.
Ok no prblem but i wonder why your taking that risk and not study code-19 throughly.
Is studing code 19 , in any way , shape or form , neccessary towards my salvation?
Khi- Salam. Yep or else ud be taking 9128&129 as part of the Quran resulting in believing hadith besides Quran and hence disobeying GOD's commandment in the Quran not to take hadith besides it. But you would also miss the chance of witnessing one of GOD's greatest signs and which honest person would wanna miss that. Its awesome if you witness it. GOD Bless!
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SaLaM idmkhizar
Hey i thought God was supposed to protect the Quran wink
Khi- Salam. Ok so according to you GOD should become visible and protect the Quran or how should it be? You see there are means which GOD uses to do something, mostly natural means. It is GOD who designed the mathematical system and thereby has protected the Quran. GOD Bless!
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Amazing logic, too bad for those before Rashad Khalifa ?
Khi- Salam. Here i always tell people that we dont know what was before that and so the important thing is what we have/see now. But we dont know what signs GOD may have sent to believers,if any, before RK. Then it is also possible that GOD has calculated that no one would be a real believer from 19 years after the Prophet till 1974(just another possibility). So why discuss the past. Important is whats there infront of us now in this time, not what was before that. Those are just silly excuses in order to take people away from GOD's signs of which there could well come more in the future. GOD Bless!
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ZOMGGG!!!!!!
What is this im hearing from you idmkhizar?? God cannot protect its own Quran? You didnt seem to have a problem in beleive that when i said Quran is altered and changed? wink
Khi- Salam. GOD did protect His Quran by the code-19 mathematical patterns. I wonder what you mean now. The Quran didnt change at all. People tried to change it and GOD showed through one of His messegers RK that it aint possible. He may have shown it before also, who knows, but we dont know and its not important. Whts important is what we have now. GOD Bless!
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SaLaM idmkhizar
So you are saying that the Quran is EXACTLY the same as it was revealed 1400 years ago? Nothing added... nothing taken out... nothing changed?
Khi- Salam. Yep. People did try to change it ofcourse but they failed as code-19 has shown. And now please dont ask how come then people were allowed to change it. Its simple GOD promised to preserve the Quran, yes thus this is a law. Now we all know that a law cannot be proven to exist UNLESS SOMEONE TRIES TO BREAK IT. Get me? For example if i make a law that you cannot leave a room and you stay in that room forever then nobody would ever know that such a rule existed. But if you try to get out, then my guards throw you back in, then wed know the rule exists. Same is with the promise of them Quran. The people tried to put false verses in the Quran but GOD through the mathematical code showed that this aint possible and they are thrown back out. GOD Bless!
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SaLaM idmkhizar
So you dont beleive that a goat ate a page out of the Quran? Or the shias's claim that a surah has been taken out. Or the Ahmadis claim that the Quran has been altered? You are saying that the Quran is EXACTLY the same as it was revaled 1400 years ago?
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SaLaM idmkhizar
So you dont beleive that a goat ate a page out of the Quran? Or the shias's claim that a surah has been taken out. Or the Ahmadis claim that the Quran has been altered? You are saying that the Quran is EXACTLY the same as it was revaled 1400 years ago?
Khi- Salam. I neither believe in the goat junk nor the shias neither the ahmadis claims. GOD Bless!
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SaLaM idmkhizar
Here is the link
How Authentic Is The Quran.
Refute the evidence if you can. Mquran has already embaressed himself on this thread.
Khi- Salam. The problem is mquran doesnt believe in code-19 miracle so it may well be that his arguments will fail. This only further strengthens my point. Without code-19 you cannot prove the Quran, not in this time period. We dont know what the future holds but right now code-19 is the access or as bro Bahman would say the GPS GOD cerated for us to get access to the Quran. GOD Bless!