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Is death painful ?

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    unknownuser
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    Salam AhmedBahgat

    Those were lovely verses. Is there an indication to reincarnation or something similar in the first verse"and of you there are some who are sent back to a feeble age, so they know nothing after having known (much).
    A feeble age to me sounds like childhood or when we are infants.

    Peace Tahira

    All the Quran verses are very lovely and touching even the ones that have violence in it

    regarding reincarnation as thought to be talked about in the following verse

    ?It is Allah who creates you and takes your souls at death; and of you there are some who are sent back to a feeble age, so that they know nothing after having known (much) for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Powerful.?

    (70)

    I honestely don't believe it is talking about reincarnation at all, rather Allah is explaining to us the followings

    1. Allah is the one who created all of us.
    2. Allah is the one who cause all of us to die.
    3. Allah is the one who cause some humans to live longer than others.
    4. Those who were allowed to live to an old age will loose their memory because Allah caused this to happen as well.
    5. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Powerful.

    so I could not see anything that incline to be talking about reincarnation

    you know this reincarnation is an old doctrine invented by the Hindu religion, it has no merit, no evidence and sure no logic or common sense to support it

    and that is what Satan always try to do to flaw the belief by introducing flawed ideas that are already exhusted by humnas, like the trinity concept for example, which was an old concept years before Christianity

    Looking at the context of the whole Quran together and tracking all the verses that talks about our creation, our death and the account we have to give, we will never find any clue that will make me incline to believe in reincarnation as a valid concept

    Allah knows best

    peace be with you

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      unknownuser
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      I have a search engine in arabic bro, however I have to remember one word at least to bring the related verses, and truely the words of the Quran always rimes in my ears due to the fact I read it in arabc for the last 25 years

      remember the verse bro "The Quran was made easy for REMEMBERANCE"

      Man, i've known arabic for about 6 years, just enough to understand what im reading, and already it moves me. Al-quraan is the ultimate conceptual adventure for me, alhamdulillah.

      Sure mate, I encourage you to learn more about the language and I'm sure we will learn a lot together when I get the Nahaw refrence book inshaallah

      your 6 years knowledge should be enough to make you understand over 80% of the Quran

      peace be with you

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        Tahira
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        Thankyou AhmedBaghat

        I am glad to know we are not going to be reincarnated, i mean i wouldn't want to come to earth a second time, once is enough for me.
        I have another question for you brother.
        I have been told(being a sunni) that when either of the spouse dies they become strangers for one another and in islam you are not allowed to love that man or woman after they have died.
        I can remember when my dad died, my mum wasn't allowed to visit his grave or talk about how much she loved him. She would say if i think about him or see him in a dream i will be commiting sin.

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          unknownuser
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          Thankyou AhmedBaghat

          I am glad to know we are not going to be reincarnated, i mean i wouldn't want to come to earth a second time, once is enough for me.
          I have another question for you brother.
          I have been told(being a sunni) that when either of the spouse dies they become strangers for one another and in islam you are not allowed to love that man or woman after they have died.
          I can remember when my dad died, my mum wasn't allowed to visit his grave or talk about how much she loved him. She would say if i think about him or see him in a dream i will be commiting sin.

          Peace Tahira

          what you heard does not make sense to me Tahira, from what I read it is not encouraged to cry on the loved one who died, this makes sense to me beacause our cry my be motivated as that's it while the fact of the matter is the real life just started by death, we are only transitting in this short life, so to cry on someone who died is like objecting the general law of Allah

          however if someone know the above advice but was so emotional that he/she cried on a loved one, I see no sin committed because it can be motivated by love and loyalty and both are encouraged in the Quran

          from what I read that women are discouraged to visit the graves of loved ones, I would say because women are more emotional and kinder than men and most likely they will cry

          but if a woman wants to visit a loved one grave and can handle herself from crying then why not, it sounds very meritic to me

          your mum can remember your dad and think about him everyday, there is nothing wrong in that but just advice her not to cry, that's all

          but if she cried because she got emotional then I see nothing wrong at all, we are humans and God created us weak as stated in the Quran

          Allah knows best

          peace be with you

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            sawtooth
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            How can it not hurt just a bit? I mean there you are as the energy that is you, must seperate from the physical. A connection that has been for that long a period of time is not going to let go easily. Then there is the added mental state. Honestly, no matter how they may protest, i doubt very many poeple are completely comfortable with death when it happens.

            Who knows? Seriously though, I don't think it is really worth worrying about. What are you gonna do? Spend the rest of your time trying to figure it out to the point where you fight "literally" to the death? Or realize that regardless of what you THINK you know now, it means nothing when the time comes and whatever will happen will.

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              newwizard3253
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              The process of dying can be painful. You can be hit by a truck, or stabbed, or burned, or develop serious cancer or other diseases that can cause pain. But it can also be a peaceful normal death.

              Inshallah, I hope that when I die it may be a peaceful transition and that I'd be worthy of God's love and approval.

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                sawtooth
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                LIke I said, I doubt there are many people who will go peacefully into that good night, when it comes down to it. Sure death is natural, but from the experience and knowledge of humans, LIFE is a hell of a lot more natural and at least, by the time most of us die, we are pretty sure of life. Get back to me at your moment of death and let me know how calm and natural it is then

                Realism is always a refreshing concept

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                  truth
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                  Pain is an odd thing.

                  Amputees can sometimes feel pain in the missing limb - called phantom pain it shows how dependent pain is on things other than actual physical stimulation.

                  It is quite obviously mediated by the brain and reactions occurring there.

                  Can you feel pain in a dream?

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                    newwizard3253
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                    When I say peaceful death it's opposed to that of death by killings or nasty diseases. I'm sure it's never a walk in the park.

                    I saw my old grandfather die in bed and it sure wasn't peaceful.

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                      Jaxal
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                      SaLaM truth

                      Can you feel pain in a dream?

                      I do in my dreams.

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                        sawtooth
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                        I have felt emotional pain in a dream, fear-sorrow-remorse-ect., but usually any physical pain is a result of the cat walking across my chest or face or something like that. I once burned my arm on the radiator while sleeping and that became part of my dream.

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