Jinns from the Quran
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11 reasons why I still believe jinns to be real creatures and not fantacised metaphors as some believe.
1)Allah created Jinns,and he created mankind.6100;1527;5514-15
2)Both Jinn and Men can be evil.6112
3)Men and Jinn sometimes try to work together to no avail.6128
4)Both evil men and jinns will go to hell.738,179;11119;3213
5)Iblis(the devil) comes from the progeny of jinns.1850
6)Jinns saw that if they could have foresaw their fate they wouldnt have turned from Allah.3414
7)Some sat up false gods(that were actually jinns).3441
Warnded not to seek the aid of jinns. 1850
9)Jinns and Mankind were created to worship Allah(but of course not all have).5156
10)Jinns can listen to the Quran.4629;721
11)Some will seek Jinns for shelter or Help.726
Jinns from the Quran
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YUSUFALI Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!
PICKTHAL Yet they ascribe as partners unto Him the jinn, although He did create them, and impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. Glorified be He and High Exalted above (all) that they ascribe (unto Him).
SHAKIR And they make the jinn associates with Allah, while He created them, and they falsely attribute to Him sons and daughters without knowledge; glory be to Him, and highly exalted is He above what they ascribe (to Him).006.112
YUSUFALI Likewise did We make for every Messenger an enemy,- evil ones among men and jinns, inspiring each other with flowery discourses by way of deception. If thy Lord had so planned, they would not have done it so leave them and their inventions alone.
PICKTHAL Thus have We appointed unto every prophet an adversary - devils of humankind and jinn who inspire in one another plausible discourse through guile. If thy Lord willed, they would not do so; so leave them alone with their devising;
SHAKIR And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the Shaitans from among men and jinn, some of them suggesting to others varnished falsehood to deceive (them), and had your Lord pleased they would not have done it, therefore leave them and that which they forge.006.128
YUSUFALI One day will He gather them all together, (and say) "O ye assembly of Jinns! Much (toll) did ye take of men." Their friends amongst men will say "Our Lord! we made profit from each other but (alas!) we reached our term - which thou didst appoint for us." He will say "The Fire be your dwelling-place you will dwell therein for ever, except as Allah willeth." for thy Lord is full of wisdom and knowledge.
PICKTHAL In the day when He will gather them together (He will say) O ye assembly of the jinn! Many of humankind did ye seduce. And their adherents among humankind will say Our Lord! We enjoyed one another, but now we have arrived at the appointed term which Thou appointedst for us. He will say Fire is your home. Abide therein for ever, save him whom Allah willeth (to deliver). Lo! thy Lord is Wise, Aware.
SHAKIR And on the day when He shall gather them all together O assembly of jinn! you took away a great part of mankind. And their friends from among the men shall say Our Lord! some of us profited by others and we have reached our appointed term which Thou didst appoint for us. He shall say The fire is your abode, to abide in it, except as Allah is pleased; surely your Lord is Wise, Knowing.006.130
YUSUFALI "O ye assembly of Jinns and men! came there not unto you messengers from amongst you, setting forth unto you My signs, and warning you of the meeting of this Day of yours?" They will say "We bear witness against ourselves." It was the life of this world that deceived them. So against themselves will they bear witness that they rejected Faith.
PICKTHAL O ye assembly of the jinn and humankind! Came there not unto you messengers of your own who recounted unto you My tokens and warned you of the meeting of this your Day? They will say We testify against ourselves. And the life of the world beguiled them. And they testify against themselves that they were disbelievers.
SHAKIR O assembly of jinn and men! did there not come to you messengers from among you, relating to you My communications and warning you of the meeting of this day of yours? They shall say We bear witness against ourselves; and this world's life deceived them, and they shall bear witness against their own souls that they were unbelievers.007.038
YUSUFALI He will say "Enter ye in the company of the peoples who passed away before you - men and jinns, - into the Fire." Every time a new people enters, it curses its sister-people (that went before), until they follow each other, all into the Fire. Saith the last about the first "Our Lord! it is these that misled us so give them a double penalty in the Fire." He will say "Doubled for all" but this ye do not understand.
PICKTHAL He saith Enter into the Fire among nations of the jinn and humankind who passed away before you. Every time a nation entereth, it curseth its sister (nation) till, when they have all been made to follow one another thither, the last of them saith unto the first of them Our Lord! These led us astray, so give them double torment of the Fire. He saith For each one there is double (torment), but ye know not.
SHAKIR He will say Enter into fire among the nations that have passed away before you from among jinn and men; whenever a nation shall enter, it shall curse its sister, until when they have all come up with one another into it; the last of them shall say with regard to the foremost of them Our Lord! these led us astray therefore give them a double chastisement of the fire. He will say Every one shall have double but you do not know.007.179
YUSUFALI Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided for they are heedless (of warning).
PICKTHAL Already have We urged unto hell many of the jinn and humankind, having hearts wherewith they understand not, and having eyes wherewith they see not, and having ears wherewith they hear not. These are as the cattle - nay, but they are worse! These are the neglectful.
SHAKIR And certainly We have created for hell many of the jinn and the men; they have hearts with which they do not understand, and they have eyes with which they do not see, and they have ears with which they do not hear; they are as cattle, nay, they are in worse errors; these are the heedless ones.011.119
YUSUFALI Except those on whom thy Lord hath bestowed His Mercy and for this did He create them and the Word of thy Lord shall be fulfilled "I will fill Hell with jinns and men all together."
PICKTHAL Save him on whom thy Lord hath mercy; and for that He did create them. And the Word of thy Lord hath been fulfilled Verily I shall fill hell with the jinn and mankind together.
SHAKIR Except those on whom your Lord has mercy; and for this did He create them; and the word of your Lord is fulfilled Certainly I will fill hell with the jinn and the men, all together.015.027
YUSUFALI And the Jinn race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.
PICKTHAL And the jinn did We create aforetime of essential fire.
SHAKIR And the jinn We created before, of intensely hot fire.017.088
YUSUFALI Say "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.
PICKTHAL Say Verily, though mankind and the jinn should assemble to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof though they were helpers one of another.
SHAKIR Say If men and jinn should combine together to bring the like of this Quran, they could not bring the like of it, though some of them were aiders of others.018.050
YUSUFALI Behold! We said to the angels, "Bow down to Adam" They bowed down except Iblis. He was one of the Jinns, and he broke the Command of his Lord. Will ye then take him and his progeny as protectors rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Evil would be the exchange for the wrong-doers!
PICKTHAL And (remember) when We said unto the angels Fall prostrate before Adam, and they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He was of the jinn, so he rebelled against his Lord's command. Will ye choose him and his seed for your protecting friends instead of Me, when they are an enemy unto you? Calamitous is the exchange for evil-doers.
SHAKIR And when We said to the angels Make obeisance to Adam; they made obeisance but Iblis (did it not). He was of the jinn, so he transgressed the commandment of his Lord. What! would you then take him and his offspring for friends rather than Me, and they are your enemies? Evil is (this) change for the unjust.027.017
YUSUFALI And before Solomon were marshalled his hosts,- of Jinns and men and birds, and they were all kept in order and ranks.
PICKTHAL And there were gathered together unto Solomon his armies of the jinn and humankind, and of the birds, and they were set in battle order;
SHAKIR And his hosts of the jinn and the men and the birds were gathered to him, and they were formed into groups.027.039
YUSUFALI Said an 'Ifrit, of the Jinns "I will bring it to thee before thou rise from thy council indeed I have full strength for the purpose, and may be trusted."
PICKTHAL A stalwart of the jinn said I will bring it thee before thou canst rise from thy place. Lo! I verily am strong and trusty for such work.
SHAKIR One audacious among the jinn said I will bring it to you before you rise up from your place; and most surely I am strong (and) trusty for it.032.013
YUSUFALI If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together."
PICKTHAL And if We had so willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me concerning evildoers took effect that I will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together.
SHAKIR And if We had pleased We would certainly have given to every soul its guidance, but the word (which had gone forth) from Me was just I will certainly fill hell with the jinn and men together.034.012
YUSUFALI And to Solomon (We made) the Wind (obedient) Its early morning (stride) was a month's (journey), and its evening (stride) was a month's (journey); and We made a Font of molten brass to flow for him; and there were Jinns that worked in front of him, by the leave of his Lord, and if any of them turned aside from our command, We made him taste of the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.
PICKTHAL And unto Solomon (We gave) the wind, whereof the morning course was a month's journey and the evening course a month's journey, and We caused the fount of copper to gush forth for him, and (We gave him) certain of the jinn who worked before him by permission of his Lord. And such of them as deviated from Our command, them We caused to taste the punishment of flaming Fire.
SHAKIR And (We made) the wind (subservient) to Sulaiman, which made a month's journey in the morning and a month's journey m the evening, and We made a fountain of molten copper to flow out for him, and of the jinn there were those who worked before him by the command of his Lord; and whoever turned aside from Our command from among them, We made him taste of the punishment of burning.034.014
YUSUFALI Then, when We decreed (Solomon's) death, nothing showed them his death except a little worm of the earth, which kept (slowly) gnawing away at his staff so when he fell down, the Jinns saw plainly that if they had known the unseen, they would not have tarried in the humiliating Penalty (of their Task).
PICKTHAL And when We decreed death for him, nothing showed his death to them save a creeping creature of the earth which gnawed away his staff. And when he fell the jinn saw clearly how, if they had known the Unseen, they would not have continued in despised toil.
SHAKIR But when We decreed death for him, naught showed them his death but a creature of the earth that ate away his staff; and when it fell down, the jinn came to know plainly that if they had known the unseen, they would not have tarried in abasing torment.034.041
YUSUFALI They will say, "Glory to Thee! our (tie) is with Thee - as Protector - not with them. Nay, but they worshipped the Jinns most of them believed in them."
PICKTHAL They will say Be Thou Glorified. Thou (alone) art our Guardian, not them! Nay, but they worshipped the jinn; most of them were believers in them.
SHAKIR They shall say Glory be to Thee! Thou art our Guardian, not they; nay! they worshipped the jinn; most of them were believers in them.037.158
YUSUFALI And they have invented a blood-relationship between Him and the Jinns but the Jinns know (quite well) that they have indeed to appear (before his Judgment-Seat)!
PICKTHAL And they imagine kinship between him and the jinn, whereas the jinn know well that they will be brought before (Him).
SHAKIR And they assert a relationship between Him and the jinn; and certainly the jinn do know that they shall surely be brought up;041.025
YUSUFALI And We have destined for them intimate companions (of like nature), who made alluring to them what was before them and behind them; and the sentence among the previous generations of Jinns and men, who have passed away, is proved against them; for they are utterly lost.
PICKTHAL And We assigned them comrades (in the world), who made their present and their past fairseeming unto them. And the Word concerning nations of the jinn and humankind who passed away before them hath effect for them. Lo! they were ever losers.
SHAKIR And We have appointed for them comrades so they have made fair-seeming to them what is before them and what is behind them, and the word proved true against them-- among the nations of the jinn and the men that have passed away before them -- that they shall surely be losers.041.029
YUSUFALI And the Unbelievers will say "Our Lord! Show us those, among Jinns and men, who misled us We shall crush them beneath our feet, so that they become the vilest (before all)."
PICKTHAL And those who disbelieve will say Our Lord! Show us those who beguiled us of the jinn and humankind. We will place them underneath our feet that they may be among the nethermost.
SHAKIR And those who disbelieve will say Our Lord! show us those who led us astray from among the jinn and the men that we may trample them under our feet so that they may be of the lowest.046.018
YUSUFALI Such are they against whom is proved the sentence among the previous generations of Jinns and men, that have passed away; for they will be (utterly) lost.
PICKTHAL Such are those on whom the Word concerning nations of the jinn and mankind which have passed away before them hath effect. Lo! they are the losers.
SHAKIR These are they against whom the word has proved true among nations of the jinn and the men that have already passed away before them; surely they are losers.046.029
YUSUFALI Behold, We turned towards thee a company of Jinns (quietly) listening to the Qur'an when they stood in the presence thereof, they said, "Listen in silence!" When the (reading) was finished, they returned to their people, to warn (them of their sins).
PICKTHAL And when We inclined toward thee (Muhammad) certain of the jinn, who wished to hear the Qur'an and, when they were in its presence, said Give ear! and, when it was finished, turned back to their people, warning.
SHAKIR And when We turned towards you a party of the jinn who listened to the Quran; so when they came to it, they said Be silent; then when it was finished, they turned back to their people warning (them).051.056
YUSUFALI I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve Me.
PICKTHAL I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me.
SHAKIR And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me.055.014
YUSUFALI He created man from sounding clay like unto pottery,
PICKTHAL He created man of clay like the potter's,
SHAKIR He created man from dry clay like earthen vessels,
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YUSUFALI And He created Jinns from fire free of smoke
PICKTHAL And the jinn did He create of smokeless fire.
SHAKIR And He created the jinn of a flame of fire.055.033
YUSUFALI O ye assembly of Jinns and men! If it be ye can pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, pass ye! not without authority shall ye be able to pass!
PICKTHAL O company of jinn and men, if ye have power to penetrate (all) regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate (them)! Ye will never penetrate them save with (Our) sanction.
SHAKIR O assembly of the jinn and the men! If you are able to pass through the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass through; you cannot pass through but with authority.055.039
YUSUFALI On that Day no question will be asked of man or Jinn as to his sin.
PICKTHAL On that day neither man nor jinni will be questioned of his sin.
SHAKIR So on that day neither man nor jinni shall be asked about his sin.055.074
YUSUFALI Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched;-
PICKTHAL Whom neither man nor jinni will have touched before them -
SHAKIR Man has not touched them before them nor jinni.072.001
YUSUFALI Say It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur'an). They said, 'We have really heard a wonderful Recital!
PICKTHAL Say (O Muhammad) It is revealed unto me that a company of the Jinn gave ear, and they said Lo! we have heard a marvellous Qur'an,
SHAKIR Say It has been revealed to me that a party of the jinn listened, and they said Surely we have heard a wonderful Quran,072.005
YUSUFALI 'But we do think that no man or spirit should say aught that untrue against Allah.
PICKTHAL And lo! we had supposed that humankind and jinn would not speak a lie concerning Allah -
SHAKIR And that we thought that men and jinn did not utter a lie against Allah072.006
YUSUFALI 'True, there were persons among mankind who took shelter with persons among the Jinns, but they increased them in folly.
PICKTHAL And indeed (O Muhammad) individuals of humankind used to invoke the protection of individuals of the jinn, so that they increased them in revolt against Allah);
SHAKIR And that persons from among men used to seek refuge with persons from among jinn, so they increased them in wrongdoing072.008
YUSUFALI 'And we pried into the secrets of heaven; but we found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires.
PICKTHAL And (the Jinn who had listened to the Qur'an said) We had sought the heaven but had found it filled with strong warders and meteors.
SHAKIR And that we sought to reach heaven, but we found it filled with strong guards and flaming stars.114.006
YUSUFALI Among Jinns and among men.
PICKTHAL Of the jinn and of mankind.
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I have no doubt jinns exist as beings. I think that perhaps the description that they are made of fire for example is more of a metaphorical/figurative way of describing that they are not physical, but separate from angels (which according to the Qur'an are made of light). I mean we all accept that angels exist, so why is it such a big logical jump to believe that jinn exist?
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Peace JHamza,
11 reasons why I still believe jinns to be real creatures and not fantacised metaphors as some believe.
Fantasies are the result of brainwaves. Aren't electromagnetic waves created by The God, in other words, aren't they creatures?
1)Allah created Jinns,and he created mankind.6100;1527;5514-15
The God created brainwaves.
2)Both Jinn and Men can be evil.6112
Haven't you heard of evil fantasies? Don't you know that serial killers are driven by their fantasy of the act?
3)Men and Jinn sometimes try to work together to no avail.6128
Don't you use your imagination/fantasy to try to solve problems?
4)Both evil men and jinns will go to hell.738,179;11119;3213
Yes the bad fantasies will go to hell and they are its fuel. It is like hell is the worst possible thing that anyone can fantasize/imagine coming true.
5)Iblis(the devil) comes from the progeny of jinns.1850
Yes. Present fantasies come from past fantasies. For example, present fantasies about the Black Stone and the stone cube in Mecca are the descendants of the fantasy about Allat.
6)Jinns saw that if they could have foresaw their fate they wouldnt have turned from Allah.3414
Yes, fantasies do not know the future. Occasionally, what you fantasize will really happen but is it not because you know the future.
7)Some sat up false gods(that were actually jinns).3441
This is actually what proves beyond a doubt that the "jinn" are "fantasies". All those false gods are not real gods, they are someone's fantasy.
Warnded not to seek the aid of jinns. 1850
Would you seek the aid of an imaginery friend or an imaginary god?
9)Jinns and Mankind were created to worship Allah(but of course not all have).5156
They were created to serve The God. When we control the fantasies, we serve The God. We both serve The God using our imagination/fantasy to create beneficial and beautiful things.
10)Jinns can listen to the Quran.4629;721
Our "jinn"/fantasies are attached to us (5023, 5027-29, 438 and 4125) so when we listen to the great reading, they are also listening. This is why the great reading uses a lot of imagery and similtudes. These are addressed to our imagination/fantasy.
11)Some will seek Jinns for shelter or Help.726
Yes. Some people escape reality and live in the fantasy world. However, this only increases their misery.
For more info. Please see
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5122I hope this helps.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace claurianta,
angels (which according to the Qur'an are made of light).
I don't recall anything in the great reading saying that they are made of light. Please provide a reference.
Peace,
Ayman
Yikes... you are right. Bloody Sunni ideology infiltrating my mind again. Sorry about that. Now I know.
Question for you though - no doubt that angels exist? Jibril was not a figment of Muhammads imagination, right?
Second question - what about the devil - he's a jinn (1850)... so is he just a figment of the imagination too? The story about the angels prostrating themselves before Adam, and Satan refusing. So we had a bunch of real angels prostrating themselves and the figment of someone's imagination refusing to do so. Please clarify this with respect to your logic. -
Peace Ayman,
Im going to reply to every question you had by simply saying,Human fantasies are apart of mankind and figments of imagination not seperate creatures created by GOD.Jinn were created as seperate beings from fire,men were created from clay..Just As I have quoted in my above post.
If you or anyone else wishes to believe the Quran is all metaphor then thats you all,its not me..Next people will be saying "Well God is a metaphor for the over all conception of creativity and that all the prophets didnt really live etc etc etc...Besides the Quran states that they were created before mankind,so they cant be the fantasies of men..(Surah 15 26 and 27)Let me reiterate for everyone....
1)I believe the Quran is the Word of Allah-the GOD and that He really exists and that he gave it to Muhammad to deliver to mankind.
2)I believe the Quran means what it says and is not metaphors.
3)I believe Angels,Jinns,Iblis,and Prophets really exist.Peace
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Peace Hamza,
2)I believe the Quran means what it says and is not metaphors.
there is a verse in quran itself saying that part of its teaching is allegoric and passes through metaphors. do u really believe there is just one understanding possible ?
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Peace Elke,
True there were some things in the Quran similar to what Christians referr to as parables and prophetic symbolism,but the main text I do not believe it metaphors is what I mean.If the Quran says there is shaytan and that Jinns were created then thats what I accept,I dont try to make them into figments of my imagination...
Peace
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Peace be upon you Claurianta,
First, AYMAN great post!!
Claurianta
Question for you though - no doubt that angels exist?The word you are translating as "angel" is "malaika", which comes from the root M-L-K (control). Malaika are "controllers" or "forces of control", something of that nature. Thoughts are what controls outer manifestations. I have no doubt that thoughts exist.
Jibril was not a figment of Muhammads imagination, right?
I would say that Muhammad is a figment of all peoples imagination today because none have met him in order to verify his reality. MU-hammad just means "one who is exalted" or "exalts".
Second question - what about the devil - he's a jinn (1850)...
Iblis is the description of one who is ruled by emotions(shayteen)
so is he just a figment of the imagination too?
A figment sent to give you guidance about your own being and how it works.
The story about the angels prostrating themselves before Adam, and Satan refusing. So we had a bunch of real angels prostrating themselves and the figment of someone's imagination refusing to do so. Please clarify this with respect to your logic.
Adam is the intellect of man, the thoughts hear and obey mans intellect. Iblis is the charatcer type of one who is run by emotions(thoughts that are in movement, not at peace).
The point is, when emotions lead you, you follow the wrong path, emotions are made to SERVEthe intellect(adam), just as the story of Solomon shows us.
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Peace be upon you JHamza,
If the Quran says there is shaytan and that Jinns were created then thats what I accept,I dont try to make them into figments of my imagination...
So you dont care to verify what yuo believe in? You are only interested in a blind faith? This message is for those who reflect and reason, not just accept.
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Peace claurianta,
Yikes... you are right. Bloody Sunni ideology infiltrating my mind again. Sorry about that. Now I know.
It is OK have patience. It takes a while to get "disinfected".
Question for you though - no doubt that angels exist?
If you are talking about the mythical creatures that wear white robes and have halos over their heads then there is no doubt that they DON'T exist.
Jibril was not a figment of Muhammads imagination, right?
No, he wasn't. The Arabic word "mlk" means "controller" not "angel". So Jibril is a controller who brought down the message.
Second question - what about the devil - he's a jinn (1850)... so is he just a figment of the imagination too?
Our imagination is the result of "brainwaves". Brainwaves are a type of electromagnetic energy. Energy was created before humans. This is what Iblis is.
The story about the angels prostrating themselves before Adam, and Satan refusing. So we had a bunch of real angels prostrating themselves and the figment of someone's imagination refusing to do so. Please clarify this with respect to your logic.
You had the controllers agreeing to obey Adam but the fantasy not agreeing to obey him. Had the fantasy obeyed him then we would all be concentrating our creativity and imagination on serving The God and creating beneficial things instead of creating lies, crimes, and destructive things.
As an example, I am sure that everyone had somekind of a bad fantasy at some point, whether it is about getting rich quick or about someone from the opposite sex. Some people let those fantasies go uncontrolled and be exceeding in rebellion ("shaytan") so those fantasies drive them to corrupt in the earth and steal and rape. Others control those fantasies with truth and knowledge and make them obey us and we end up working hard (and smart) and getting married instead.
We can see that the great reading gives us advice that is directly relevant to our salvation. Whether you succeed in this low life and the hereafter is dependent on the above. It is not dependent on some ghosts no more than it is dependent on a jinni in a bottle.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace ayman,
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "controller". Could you define it please?
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Peace JHamza,
Im going to reply to every question you had by simply saying,Human fantasies are apart of mankind and figments of imagination not seperate creatures created by GOD.Jinn were created as seperate beings from fire,men were created from clay..Just As I have quoted in my above post.
The great reading tells us that the "jinn" were created out of smokeless fire. In other words, energy. So the brainwaves (a kind of electromagnetic energy) that result in your fantasies was not created by The God? Who was it created by? Did you create it? Did humans even know that electromagnetic energy exists until recently?
If you or anyone else wishes to believe the Quran is all metaphor then thats you all,its not me..Next people will be saying "Well God is a metaphor for the over all conception of creativity and that all the prophets didnt really live etc etc etc...Besides the Quran states that they were created before mankind,so they cant be the fantasies of men..(Surah 15 26 and 27)
Yes, energy was created before humans. There is nothing amazing about that. This particular form of electromagnetic waves was supposed to obey us and help us accomplish both our purpose to serve The God. We know that it only obeys us when we control it. If we let it control us then it becomes exceeding in rebellion ("shaytan").
1)I believe the Quran is the Word of Allah-the GOD and that He really exists and that he gave it to Muhammad to deliver to mankind.
If you do, then you need to start seeing things from the prespective that The God doesn't create things in vain. The "jinn" have a good purpose. We all accomplish our purpose by obeying The God.
2)I believe the Quran means what it says and is not metaphors.
3)I believe Angels,Jinns,Iblis,and Prophets really exist.So what do you believe "jinn" are? Do you believe that they are ghosts as the traditional sectarians believe?
If so, then what do those ghosts personally have to do with you? Or are "jinn" always "someone else's problem" and the great reading talking about them is not relevant to you?
Why don't you believe that brainwaves (electromagnetic energy) is a creature of The God?
I am open to better interpretations.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Claurianta,
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "controller". Could you define it please?
If you look the word "mlk" (the singular of "malaika") in an arabic dictionary, you will see that it means owner/controller. So its plural means "controllers". This is the real meaning of the word, not angel/angels.
Peace,
Ayman
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jhamza wrote...
Let me reiterate for everyone....1)I believe the Quran is the Word of Allah-the GOD and that He really exists and that he gave it to Muhammad to deliver to mankind.
2)I believe the Quran means what it says and is not metaphors.
3)I believe Angels,Jinns,Iblis,and Prophets really exist.cool! and so far i have seen none been able to refute it except with a figment of their own imagination! -S
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I believe jinn are real creatures, I believe satan is real,I believe Angels(hebrew and greek names mean messengers)
This is all I have to say about it at them time..If others believe they are all energy/fantasies of people then thats them,even though these energies are believed to have been created before men..etc
Peace
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there are others who share the beliefs u stated above! and i must say u have done a pretty neat job with those verses and they are quite conclusive in their verdict of djinns and humans being seperate entities! -)
however the word malaika has its roots in 'mlk' so i dont think 'messenger' would be a good choice for translation (in arabic), though they might serve as messengers of god as and when god wills them to! -) 'mlk' has something to do with control/possessing/owning/dominion! however, in usage we differentiate between who is controlling/possessing etc! as such a queen is 'malika' in arabic and a king is 'malik'! likewise, in singular angel is 'malak' and plural 'malaika'!
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Peace be upon you Ayman,
I cant believe I missed that post brother. Excellent! I have responded more detailed in that thread.