sex is private
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YOU GO PREACH THIS HUMAN BEING IDEOLOGY TO AMERICANS,,,,WHERE THEY HAVE HIGHEST RATE OF RAPES IN THE WORLD. THE COUNTRIES HAVING MORE NUDITY MEANS THEY PROVOKE THEIR MALES MORE. EVEN A STUPID CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROBABILTY OF MORE SEXUAL CRIME IN THE EXPLICIT ENVIRONMENT AS COMPARED TO THE ENVIRONMTN WHERE WOMEN COVER THEIR BODY BETTER.
Nothing would stop perverts, not even a fully covered woman.
You speak about rates!? And the highest rates too!? Compared to what? To No rates? Where do you live exactly? Come to the middle east and try to find studies and rates! ??? You must be joking! You won't be allowed to even make a study! Also where would you find a woman or a little girl or a little boy who would choose or know to speak? If only the killed or burnt to death can speak!In America a rape is that sexual activity which is done against the will of women AND is reported also. Other wise their must be several times more cases where women dont report. And there must be huge number of cases where both parteners in sex are willing.
VE.Wives here, and I suppose everywhere else in the "muslim+arab" world, don't have the right of willingess.This right is exclusive to the husband. This is as basic here as Quran.
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YOU GO PREACH THIS HUMAN BEING IDEOLOGY TO AMERICANS,,,,WHERE THEY HAVE HIGHEST RATE OF RAPES IN THE WORLD. THE COUNTRIES HAVING MORE NUDITY MEANS THEY PROVOKE THEIR MALES MORE. EVEN A STUPID CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROBABILTY OF MORE SEXUAL CRIME IN THE EXPLICIT ENVIRONMENT AS COMPARED TO THE ENVIRONMTN WHERE WOMEN COVER THEIR BODY BETTER.
Nothing would stop perverts, not even a fully covered woman.
You speak about rates!? And the highest rates too!? Compared to what? To No rates? Where do you live exactly? Come to the middle east and try to find studies and rates! ??? You must be joking! You won't be allowed to even make a study! Also where would you find a woman or a little girl or a little boy who would choose or know to speak? If only the killed or burnt to death can speak!In America a rape is that sexual activity which is done against the will of women AND is reported also. Other wise their must be several times more cases where women dont report. And there must be huge number of cases where both parteners in sex are willing.
VE.Wives here, and I suppose everywhere else in the "muslim+arab" world, don't have the right of willingess.This right is exclusive to the husband. This is as basic here as Quran.
Miss supporter of women freedom. You should get rid of your clothes and live the life while nude to support your fellow women's freedom. Do you? Certainly you will not. Then why are you just opposing for no reason?
And please change your display picture, cuz it is also some traditional Hijab. And use your sexy pictures because it has no difference for the perverts and males in general.
VE
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YOU GO PREACH THIS HUMAN BEING IDEOLOGY TO AMERICANS,,,,WHERE THEY HAVE HIGHEST RATE OF RAPES IN THE WORLD. THE COUNTRIES HAVING MORE NUDITY MEANS THEY PROVOKE THEIR MALES MORE. EVEN A STUPID CAN UNDERSTAND THE PROBABILTY OF MORE SEXUAL CRIME IN THE EXPLICIT ENVIRONMENT AS COMPARED TO THE ENVIRONMTN WHERE WOMEN COVER THEIR BODY BETTER.
Nothing would stop perverts, not even a fully covered woman.
You speak about rates!? And the highest rates too!? Compared to what? To No rates? Where do you live exactly? Come to the middle east and try to find studies and rates! ??? You must be joking! You won't be allowed to even make a study! Also where would you find a woman or a little girl or a little boy who would choose or know to speak? If only the killed or burnt to death can speak!In America a rape is that sexual activity which is done against the will of women AND is reported also. Other wise their must be several times more cases where women dont report. And there must be huge number of cases where both parteners in sex are willing.
VE.Wives here, and I suppose everywhere else in the "muslim+arab" world, don't have the right of willingess.This right is exclusive to the husband. This is as basic here as Quran.
Miss supporter of women freedom. You should get rid of your clothes and live the life while nude to support your fellow women's freedom. Do you? Certainly you will not. Then why are you just opposing for no reason?
And please change your display picture, cuz it is also some traditional Hijab. And use your sexy pictures because it has no difference for the perverts and males in general.
VE
And that is your best ???
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He doesn't understand that it can be rape also just having sex with a women even though she allows it. And this is happening all over the world. He thinks that sexy clothes is the only reason for rape. He doesn't understand that it is the level of respect for women in a society or person that determines the behaviour towards women. Rape is not determined by clothes or culture or faith, rape is determined by if assholes who live all over the world think they can get away with it or not. Because they believe they 'deserve' to have sex with that woman. So, sex without love is rape to in my eyes. He thinks only in extremes. It or black or white. So yes, i would count him that young too.
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LoteTree
There have been compassionate people who have worked to get rid of slavery not because of economy but out of compassion...No one doubts this.
But as I said, I was not talking about that stuff at all.
This was just an addition to your statement that sounded a little bit oversimplified to me.
It?s not the first time that you mistook my point, old friend.
You really should one day get in the mood of reading whole posts and see them as integral totalities instead of chosing to focus on a small part of it. That applies to longer texts like al-qur'?n as well.
Believe me, it really helps to understand what a text is really about.virtualeye Miss supporter of women freedom. You should get rid of your clothes and live the life while nude to support your fellow women's freedom. Do you? Certainly you will not. Then why are you just opposing for no reason?
Virtualeye, can you only see in either black or white?
Women?s freedom and independence and not wanting to be treated like an object like a pearl or diamond is not equal to a lewd life!
Only someone who objectifies women to the core would see it that way.By the way
There was a case over here when a black man walked through a park and then was beaten up to death by some racists.
Some idiots afterwards said "It?s his own fault! Doesn?t he know that a black man is not supposed to walk through that park?".These idiots` logic is the same logic that you apply to rapes
It?s the victims fault, according to you.
No, it?s always the criminals fault.No clothes, whatever scarce they may be, excuse a rapist.
Every man is able to controll his balls!
Every other statement is a weak excuse that Allah Almighty would never accept! -
Dumb Lady!
It is as evident as day light, that sexy looking women or the women showing her body will have more chance of being teased/raped/victimized. Human nature is aroused to see the body of women, and not the covered women.
Even a child can understand that there is more probability of Males to be attracted towards sex when a woman is showin her body more.
And by the way if you are muslim then you could have read the verses in Quran about the use of viel. Quran is even telling to do Hijab within the home also. Do you know?
VE
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Dumb Lady!
And by the way, if you are someone who tries to follow al-qur'?n you should know that one should not throw around statements like that.
And you want to talk about respect for women here ??????
About that women are pearls and diamonds to you ???????
Haaaa, haa, haaa ....Quran is even telling to do Hijab within the home also.
Hijab means curtain, barrier. It does not mean headscarf or niq?b.
And, by the way, the specific verses that you probably mean talk about the specific situation of the wives of an-nab?y who are annoyed by some visitors in search of had?th.
Read your qur'?n.What do you think?
That me, Taj, elke or anyone walks around on the street in a bikini and sending out seductive looks at horny men???????
We were talking about independence and not wanting to be objectified, that was all.
And I am sure we all try to appear as decent persons in public.
It is your fantasy alone that takes it to these lewd limits. -
Dumb Lady!
Its high time u read the forum rules.
It is as evident as day light, that sexy looking women or the women showing her body will have more chance of being teased/raped/victimized. Human nature is aroused to see the body of women, and not the covered women.
Human nature is aroused???? Which one is that?Even women get aroused by men..........so, shall we lock all the men up in their houses? What say?
Even a child can understand that there is more probability of Males to be attracted towards sex when a woman is showin her body more.
Really? What about men? Shall we cover their faces up too?
And according to u, is this 'human being' all about sex and lust?? Is there nothing more to a person?Peace!
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Dumb Lady!
VE,
What is this with you and insults? You have to learn to control yourself. We have rules on the forum (you know, rules, the things that you just can't get enough of and needlessly invent in the name of God).
I'm getting really tired of you insulting everyone you disagree with.
If you can't get your point across in a mature manner, don't bother posting.
Again, if you would like, I can post Qur'anic verses that say as much.
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That applies to longer texts like al-qur'?n as well. Believe me, it really helps to understand what a text is really about.
The question of quranic text was not question here. There was no need for you to patronise...
The question was some of your statements did not fit in the "whole" and appeared to me that you were saying that one should not speak unless one has experienced something..but it is sorted now...Regards,
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Peace Taj
yes i guess that is his best...at least for the time being
i actually wondered not where he lives, but how old he is ...
14/15 in the best case, if not ???
lk
Please do not insult kids at that age...some kids like Nadeem and pheonix have great intelligence and wisdom...!!! D
Regards,
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Lote Tree
Yep, it is sorted out now.  
Sorry, I was just tempted to include the reference to al-qur'?n because I almost at the same time also answered your post regarding "war in al-qur'?n".
But I agree, in this context it was unnecessary to do so.peacefulmuslim
Very good points.
Human nature......yesssss.
Ha, ha ,ha ...cavemandoctor
thanks. words from my heart.elke, taj
Believe me, age of men does not necessarily have much to do with still being a kid.
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Peace VE,
Dumb Lady!
DO YE ENJOIN RIGHT CONDUCT ON THE PEOPLE and FORGET (TO PRACTICE IT) YOURSELVES and yet YE STUDY THE SCRIPTURE? WILL YE NOT UNDERSTAND?
- O ye who believe! Let not a folk deride a folk who may be better than they (are), not let women (deride) women who may be better than they are; NEITHER DEFAME one another, NOR INSULT one another BY NICKNAMES. Bad is the name of lewdness after faith. And whoso turneth not in repentance, such are evil-doers.
God bless you,
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salaam pm and all other dumbladies ;D
And according to u, is this 'human being' all about sex and lust?? Is there nothing more to a person?
From what i have read there does not appear to be much more to the person you are referring to.
I think you are more likely to see flying pigs then for him to understand what you are talking about.
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Shalom, Salam, Shantih Elke,
Peace lote
Please do not insult kids at that age...some kids like Nadeem and pheonix have great intelligence and wisdom...!!!
no insult ever intended to these young men and you know it
they dispose of more than virtual intelligence...
lk
Yes I know but I said it to amuse
We should be all be proud of Nadeem, Phoenix their types in the way they approach quran, scripture and knowledge.
I have faith in the younger generation -)Why do Virtual Eye and their ilk fear women so much?
Could it be that these types have very small "danda"? winkRegards,
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Peace lote-tree. Your 'incisive' posts,and humour are much appreciated lote-tree... )
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Dumb Lady!
And by the way, if you are someone who tries to follow al-qur'?n you should know that one should not throw around statements like that.
And you want to talk about respect for women here ??????
About that women are pearls and diamonds to you ???????
Haaaa, haa, haaa ....Dumb means "Slow to learn or understand", what is abuse in it?
and despite this,,,,,I would like the respect the women who deserve it and not the women who preach that sex has no relation with increase in the human lust, so as to free the women from clothes, in the name of women rights.
When I mention women resemble the respect like pearls and gems, then it means to respect their wishes of my sisters and not to just press them like some people are doing in the name of Islam. So you have to look at the both negative sides.
Who told you that women who are supporting motives against the morals of Islam, are pearls and gems? I would not even consider them rubbish.
VE