Is banning forever?
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Peace PM,
So, what action has been taken reg the post I quoted? The member was previously temporarily banned for a week for breaking forum rules. R we gonna do anything now, since he has broken forum rules yet again in his post? According to the forum rules, he should have a temporary ban of 1 month, shouldnt he?
Banning is a group decision by consensus and for it to happen, strong evidence must be presented. If you feel strongly about it, please present your argument briefly and send it to all the moderators/admin. -
Hi SC,
So, what action has been taken reg the post I quoted? The member was previously temporarily banned for a week for breaking forum rules. R we gonna do anything now, since he has broken forum rules yet again in his post? According to the forum rules, he should have a temporary ban of 1 month, shouldnt he?
Banning is a group decision by consensus and for it to happen, strong evidence must be presented. If you feel strongly about it, please present your argument briefly and send it to all the moderators/admin.This is what makes the whole system confusing. What constitutes a strong evidence? So, with every post that one is asked to report, if u want us to make a strong case/argument, why is anybody gonna bother to spend so much time? And it should not be about if i feel strongly about it or not, It should be about 'is it right or wrong?'
I have a question coz I am really trying to understand.
Islam's peace comes AFTER conflict and victory over mischief, not as a result of lying down and taking fecal matter from the likes of you.
From
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=5765.msg86937#msg86937Is the language in the above post in line with forum rules or is it not? There is no middle way. So, let us know.
If it is in line with forum rules, people would understand that such language is acceptable in the forum.
If its not acceptable, then u convey so by taking action......appropriate action.Please make things clear.
peace!
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peace all. I agree with peaceful-muslim...A little more consistency,competence,ease,and speed is needed with these warnings....Which should be public/transparent,fully explained and swift...
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Peace,
This is what makes the whole system confusing. What constitutes a strong evidence? So, with every post that one is asked to report, if u want us to make a strong case/argument, why is anybody gonna bother to spend so much time? And it should not be about if i feel strongly about it or not, It should be about 'is it right or wrong?'
Not everyone feels that something is as bad as someone might make it. That's why we have a consensus in regards to banning. Once again, please send them to ALL the mods/admin so that we can get to the bottom of it and check the history and nature of the disputes. Once again the final decision rests with Layth. -
Peace all. I have reported mquran and ab for repeated bad-language and hostility...I hope their behaviour will be publicly reprimanded...Hopefully this is the way these guys will learn to speak respectfully....I hope something is done about this 'uncivil' approach...
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Salam all,
I will respond because I will show u that I'm not a coward.
I was the one who sent the PM to Br Layth.
Jaxal did annoyed me alot and he was treating me in a strange way.
But I was not alone about this, my male friend he had proofs from other forums that Jaxal did harass female members and he told that to Br Layth.
I didn't knew that the ban was forever, and I think Jaxal has learn his lessons now, or I hope he has (
Sorry that this has gone so far, it wasn't my intention to hurt anyone, I'm not like that at all.
Please forgive me God and u guys, that we will be fair in our desicions.
To Jaxal I hope u forgive me, but why did u chase me like that?
Peace Sister Maria
P.s I welcome Jaxal back if he wants so, I use to give people a second chanse.
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Peace all. I just feel its time that someone stood up and addressed these two posters...I feel their behaviour is not constructive...I sincerely hope they both reform their internet methodologies and language...
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Peace,
Jaxal did annoyed me alot and he was treating me in a strange way.
Can u quote the posts or some evidence of 'harrasment' please?
But I was not alone about this, my male friend he had proofs from other forums that Jaxal did harass female members and he told that to Br Layth.
Can we have the male member's name, please? And the proofs from him from.........., did u say ''other forum''? I didnt know this was an multi-forum body, but nevertheless, lets have those proofs from u and ur male friend.
Peace!
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Peace,
I don't save old messages like that. And he didn't just annoyed me at this forum but also in chat because I had gave him my yahoo messenger before.
I will not hang out someone, I think all must step forward with free will.
Peace sis Maria
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Peace,
I don't save old messages like that. And he didn't just annoyed me at this forum
U dont need to save messages. They r saved in the forum. Just quote the ones where he 'harassed' u.
but also in chat because I had gave him my yahoo messenger before.
Chatting in messenger is one's personal domain and nothing to do with the forum as such.
U can always block someone, if u dont want to chat with anyone. How can someone forcefully 'harass' or even chat with u against ur will?Lets have some evidence of the harassment .
Peace!
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And also SM,
Did u write the following to Layth?
I'm not a slanderer but as a woman I don't like when men are disrespect women only because she is a woman. Jaxal harass all females who post in Fm and he has do it to me too, he is famous in Fm all knows about him.He can't act normal with women and he is so childish with all his emoticons on every line.
So, give evidence where u felt harassed becoz u were a woman.
Give evidence where he harassed other females in FM (u seem to be speaking on behalf of females in FM)
Give evidence where U have come to know from other females(also name them) that they feel harased by jaxal
Give evidence where he didnt act normal with women.
Peace!
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To The Mods/Admins,
This is what Jaxal has to say to clarify the harassment accusation.
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Jaxal has asked u guys to check all his pm's to all/any females and especially to SM to see if there is any evidence of harassment in them. He is ready to reveal the password if requested.
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U r free to check all his posts from the forum for any evidence of ''harassment' of ANY female or specifically Sweden Majidah
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Jaxal can even present the final 2 messenger logs /conversations where he chatted with Sweden Majidah, if requested by the mods/admins/members.
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Peace,
I have no time to look for old posts, have other things to do.
Maria
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As I expected, this thread will go ugly
well, i'm a watcher now
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I have no time to look for old posts, have other things to do.
U made an accusation against a person, Sm. U cant do so without backing up with ANY evidence. u cant wake up one day and decide 'I am gonna accuse this person of harassment today becoz I feel so'. Thats not how it works.
And all I ask u is one simple question.......Just one single evidence of harassment of u or any......female in the forum to back up ur claim to layth.
And if u cant do that, U ought to apologise and retract ur harassment accusation.
Peace!
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Salam all,
I will respond because I will show u that I'm not a coward.
I was the one who sent the PM to Br Layth.
Jaxal did annoyed me alot and he was treating me in a strange way.
But I was not alone about this, my male friend he had proofs from other forums that Jaxal did harass female members and he told that to Br Layth.
I didn't knew that the ban was forever, and I think Jaxal has learn his lessons now, or I hope he has
Sorry that this has gone so far, it wasn't my intention to hurt anyone, I'm not like that at all.
Please forgive me God and u guys, that we will be fair in our desicions.
To Jaxal I hope u forgive me, but why did u chase me like that?Peace Sister Maria
P.s I welcome Jaxal back if he wants so, I use to give people a second chanse.
Peace Maria, all
Let me say at first that I applause to Marias step to come forward! BRAVO!
WELL DONE INDEED!I cant help myself but what I noticed even before is that Maria mentions the word chasing a lot. On many occassions you said how you were chased by men......And now its even Jaxal ???????????????
I'm sorry Maria i dont believe you that Jaxal chased you but thats only your own vanity, imagination.And Ahmed and KGB
I find it quite ugly and sexist the way you comment this thread!!! would you make the same comments if two men are arguing here? I BET NO
couse when two men have a figtht its much more serious and importand, right? here its only two hysterical women who will pull their hair over a man ????????
thats not what its all abuot here!!! elektro
Why bringing up Raw Wrestling (?!!!!!!???) when Maria and PM have a valid argument about a serious topic? Its disgusting Ahmed and KGB!!!!I really hope the Mods take a stand on that! It cant be that this crap will be without comment from the admins/Mod.
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Peace sister warda
me and brother kgb were trying to cool the air a bit, i don't think we insulted anyone really, on the other hand I agree with you that this whole thread is digusting
cheers
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Peace all,
Tempers are running high and I have edited and removed some posts. If this thread cannot stay on topic without flaming and offending people I will lock it. The only reason it is open for a bit is to let swedenmajidah clear her position. Please stick to the topic it is a sensitive issue.
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Peace all,
funny, i knew it was majida, just felt it, and i was very pissed off
but finally, after she admitted it my anger came down
she's the first to admit that she's sometimes got some emotional problems (some people here have them but don't even realize it ...)
now how about her "male friend" that manipulated her does he have the balls to come forward ???
lk
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Salaamun alaikum to the Layth and Moderators,
Some people here have forgotten (whether inadvertently or otherwises) that Jaxal was guilty of other things which led to his banning
- After such a humiliation i put your through, why would talk to me
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4139&start=125
- Just like it was fun for me to toy with you with ur ridiculous claim of Quran being anti - democratic. Just like it was fun for me toy with ur reidiculour claim that the messenger needs to have good presentation skills. AND just like it was fun for me to toy with your ridiculour claim that Quran is not altered LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4139&start=125
- mquran, dont be a mental retard. Atleast out of the whole book, you learnt the spelling of Torah. The rest, is like when a blind kid tries to read. And u aint even blind man. Or is it simply that you are too traumatized from a broken marriage or something? do you always have a big mouth on forums? Are u trying to make up for somethng you lack in real life?
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4139&start=125
Here is a quote from Jaxal from thread http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4140&start=400
Did you speak like to your ex wife? is that why she left you? If you dont agree with what is being said then stfu. dont spew hatered from your mouth towards those who dont agree with you.
SaLaM
STFU
rotfl
PS also check out LIFE . emotional cry
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=3605.msg62632#msg62632
swear this son of a bitch just cant stop being a motherer. He called off any more search and rescue missions. Now becoz of him, 1000s more people will simply rot to death. All those families who had a slither of a hope that maybe, just maybe, rescue will come and help them, musharaff has taken that away from them as well. As if taking children from their mothers wasnt enough to put him to sleep at night. i hope this motherer is beheaded in public. Or hanged upside down with his throat cut so he can drown and die in his own blood. evil
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=4226.msg57660;topicseen#msg57660
It's really CONVENIENT how the supporters of this person have forgotten this, isn't it?
But no problem, to add to the above
One Admitting to ingestion of drugs (still a crime in the US and UK)
Jaxal I on occasion smoke weed. I know people who smoke weed on a regular basis. But if you came across them they wouldnt have an extra arm growing outta their body or an extra eye. The reason pork is foul is becoz pig eats its own crap and human crap.from
http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=57845&highlight=occasion+smoke+weed#57845Two Admitting to owning a handgun
Jaxal I owned a 9mm 2 years ago
Truth I thought that handguns had been banned outright in the UK following the Dunblane killings?
Jaxal Handguns are banned. But with money, you can buy ANYTHING.from http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4372&start=50
Three Admitting to being part of a fanatical Islamic group
Jaxal There was another shot where i was holding up the Quran and a gun.http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4078&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=175
The admission of the above constitute confessions of CRIMES. It is a duty for us NOT to have such a person on this forum and we should certainly alert relevant anti-terrorist agencies if such a person ever came back. Further to this, you should question the motivations of individuals who are trying to bring back such a person. I readily agree to the testimony that Jaxal was never interested in discussing anything with anyone. I highly recommend you question WHO these people who support are and ask why exactly they want him back. The subversion of this forum was a necessity because the discussions here were getting deep. Certain parties NEED the agenda of this forum diverted and will readily do anything to see that achieved.