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Which HADITH, besides this (Quran) do they believe in? 7:18

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    jankren
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    Hey Bubba welcome welcome, by the way do you like shrimp D?

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      unknownuser
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      Uh, hm, yes i like shrimp.

      Does shrimp (are we talking of the same thing?) inspired you in some way, Jankren?

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        jankren
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        Ha... Ha... Im sorry bro, but the reason I asked you that question was because I assumed your name 'Bubba' is inspired by the shrimp loving character in the movie 'Forest Gump' D.

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          khurram
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          what middle man have we put in? we are practicing the legacy left behind by the prophet(pbuh). because he was the best example of a muslim. again i must ask what hierarchy are you referring to? shock

          some of the hadiths are weak, which go against the teachings of the Qur'an, and some are strong ahadiths. obviously if something sounds ridiculous you simply use your own brain and not believe in it.

          Hadiths are the sayings of our beloved prophet (saw), the second generations narrated these.

          I still solely follow the Qur'an, AGAIN HADITHS ARE SUPPLEMENTARY FORM of understanding the Qur'anic commandments. First we should find the references in the Qur'an and then go to secondary sources.

          I read in some other posts, that sunni's are idol worshippers, Astagfirrilah people here have some deviant thoughts about the practices of Sunni's

          salaams

          it is incorrect to say that belief in ahadith is limited to understanding the quran alone.

          on the contrary, if one is believe in the ahadith, one is then paving the path for abrogation and paving the path for shirk.

          WHY?
          because the Ahadith claim to replace many Quranic injunctions and ADD on to them.

          also, there is no such thing as belief in ahadith. those who believe the ahadith to be authentic, believe in the word of certain people. it is these people that they put their faith in. and this is shirk. the whole idea of believing that a person or persons are infallible is shirk. all humans can make mistakes, and therefore, the judgement of humans as to which ahadith is correct is also fallible.

          THEREFORE , the ahadith are historical records and not wahi.

          ahadith can best be used to see what the arabs of that time said about Din and about Muhammad.

          the AHADITH are in now way representative of waht the RasulAllah said or did.

          they are only reflective of what the people of that time CLAIMED that the rasulAllah said or did.

          therefore, it is not a part of Islam

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            Andya_Primanda
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            salaams

            it is incorrect to say that belief in ahadith is limited to understanding the quran alone.

            on the contrary, if one is believe in the ahadith, one is then paving the path for abrogation and paving the path for shirk.

            WHY?
            because the Ahadith claim to replace many Quranic injunctions and ADD on to them.

            also, there is no such thing as belief in ahadith. those who believe the ahadith to be authentic, believe in the word of certain people. it is these people that they put their faith in. and this is shirk. the whole idea of believing that a person or persons are infallible is shirk. all humans can make mistakes, and therefore, the judgement of humans as to which ahadith is correct is also fallible.

            THEREFORE , the ahadith are historical records and not wahi.

            ahadith can best be used to see what the arabs of that time said about Din and about Muhammad.

            the AHADITH are in now way representative of waht the RasulAllah said or did.

            they are only reflective of what the people of that time CLAIMED that the rasulAllah said or did.

            therefore, it is not a part of Islam

            Peace khurram,

            I see that you have identified the slippery slope of hadith!

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              ayman
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              Peace Khurram,

              It is good to see you on the forum brother.

              it is incorrect to say that belief in ahadith is limited to understanding the quran alone.
              on the contrary, if one is believe in the ahadith, one is then paving the path for abrogation and paving the path for shirk.
              WHY?
              because the Ahadith claim to replace many Quranic injunctions and ADD on to them.
              also, there is no such thing as belief in ahadith. those who believe the ahadith to be authentic, believe in the word of certain people. it is these people that they put their faith in. and this is shirk. the whole idea of believing that a person or persons are infallible is shirk. all humans can make mistakes, and therefore, the judgement of humans as to which ahadith is correct is also fallible.
              THEREFORE , the ahadith are historical records and not wahi.
              ahadith can best be used to see what the arabs of that time said about Din and about Muhammad.
              the AHADITH are in now way representative of waht the RasulAllah said or did.
              they are only reflective of what the people of that time CLAIMED that the rasulAllah said or did.
              therefore, it is not a part of Islam

              Well said.

              Peace,

              Ayman

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                yfn123
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                Peace Khurram,

                Is that you from amongbelievers group? One more is that your photo? Just curious...

                Anwar Azim

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                  Khurram,

                  Are you the one who post on wideminds as well?

                  Peace

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                    andy
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                    Ha... Ha... Im sorry bro, but the reason I asked you that question was because I assumed your name 'Bubba' is inspired by the shrimp loving character in the movie 'Forest Gump' .

                    Bubba is a sister, isn't she? Please CMIIW

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                      unknownuser
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                      I can't prove it to you but trust me, i'm indeed a sister. I dont mind sister jankren call my bro P
                      Andy, what's CMIIW?

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                        adley
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                        Salaam Bubba,

                        As far as I know, Jankren is a bro. ;D
                        CMIIW = Correct Me If I'm Wrong

                        =adley=

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                          andy
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                          Salaam Bubba,

                          I can't prove it to you but trust me, i'm indeed a sister. I dont mind sister jankren call my bro P
                          Andy, what's CMIIW?

                          I trust you sis

                          CMIIW = Correct Me If I'm Wrong

                          Btw ...Jankren is a brother, isn't he? LOL

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                            andy
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                            Salaam Bubba,

                            As far as I know, Jankren is a bro. ;D
                            CMIIW = Correct Me If I'm Wrong

                            =adley=

                            Exactly adley!

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                              adley
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                              Salaam,

                              LOL

                              =adley=

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