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if You Go To Google and Research The Mandlebrot Set you Will Understand Why The past And Our sub Cellular Organelles cannot Be Used As Evidence Against A Creator.
So,you tell me,what is your conception of God.Is He a personal creator God who intervienes or a life force that in this world at least,develops slowly.
It still makes no sense to me.Other than life just is and we are subject to it - hey,that sounds like God! -
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God Is Not natural So You Will Not Find Him Studying natural Sciences. Expand Your Studies To Physics And Mathematics Etc. The Governing Laws Of creation, In Order To Find The Creator.
No you are attributing qualities to a none existant construct in your mind,its so easy to say he is beyond his creation,its like trying to disprove something that is always hidden.
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you are intentionally limiting your knowlede because you do not want to believe in God. peace.
Apologies if you feel frustrated,your contributions are gratefully recieved.
It is far from the truth that Iam intentionally limiting my knowledge,you should know better than to make such judgements just because you have a problem. -
im not the one with a problem. Your problem is you can not reconcile God and Creation. Thats why you Started this thread. i suffer from no such confusion.
You have a problem with me not seing things the way you see things-is what I mean,so you have to say something which is a personal comment,ie iam limiting my knowledge,thats all.
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i only told you to broaden your study to fields more appropriate to determine Gods existence. You have refused To do this, you are limiting your knowledge.
Please excuse me,but you are again making assumptions in a patronising manner.You have no idea as to the areas I have studied.So please ristrict your comments to pure subject matter.
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Peace all,
But from where would come the laws in this creation? who made the rules?
Are we just an accident in a process?? but even then, who started the process?
Denying the existence of the creator is like denying the creation, which I believe is hard to conceive, it is like denying one's own existence, which means becoming nil. And this doesn?t mean that this creation will stop.
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This is a very important,crucial point you make,its always been argued on this basis,you either have faith or you dont.But if you take into consideration the way the mind developed and the way it functions psychologically,individually and in groups,it can be argued that this is a delusion,just as a mentally ill patient who has a delusion.A conviction he is certain is true,nothing you can say will disprove this fact to him.Some say,whats the problem,if he is happy leave him alone,I have sympathy with this,but that is ok,allowing someone to have a belief which is not true,but what then if their delusion leads them to commit acts which are detrimental to themselves and others.Perhaps Truth is more important in the long run and it is not a good idea for society to accept anything other than that.
Also I would reiterate,iam not an aethiest,I am in a position where Iam reviewing the whole arguement and as I said before,the arguement seems to come out against their being a God,its an uneccassary concept,just a step up from the god of pagan religions.
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Iam sure your aware of the oft quoted example of the stick in the dark being mistaken for a snake.This is a simple example of how the mind naturally trys to see pattern and meaning in things.So this is the mechanism involved in man concluding there is a god to give meaning to life.
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Or vice versa. You can't argue against God's existence by saying the mind is irrational. If you do that, you are arguing against reason itself. This makes it automatically, de-facto unreasonable to be atheist.
