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Number of wives?

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    FAR
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    If you want an example of how psychologically healthy a child from a polygamous relationship is, just look at Bin Laden.

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      Samia
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      But where is the refutation?

      When you wrote the following underlined sentence, did you mean "It definitely supports polygamy"?

      It does not however rule out polygyny. ?Wives of their adopted sons? therefore suggests whether a believer has ?

      one wife of one adopted son,
      many wives of one adopted son,
      or many wives of many adopted sons, ?

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        Samia
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        There is nothing in the Quran forbidding the man from making the same promise with another wife if he can keep it.

        There's nothing in the quraan forbidding the woman from making the same promise with another husband if she can keep it.

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          FAR
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          There's nothing in the quraan forbidding the woman from making the same promise with another husband if she can keep it.

          You can't marry women already married, can you?

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            Samia
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            You can't marry women already married, can you?

            Any verse?

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              unknownuser
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              Salaams Samia,All,

              More then one husband! Is it allowed? hypno

              434
              Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance) For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

              How is a woman guarding her chestity in the absence of one husband when she is having it off with another husband?

              if she has more then one husband.

              If the ayah is correct!

              God Bless.

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                liquiddharma
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                Salaams Samia,All,

                More then one husband! Is it allowed? hypno

                434
                Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance) For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

                How is a woman guarding her chestity in the absence of one husband when she is having it off with another husband?

                if she has more then one husband.

                If the ayah is correct!

                God Bless.

                The verse doesn't actually say chastity? It says "what Allah would have them guard" - and that should surely apply to men to! Men should guard what Allah would have them guard.

                So you're just taking your subjective opinion to say that female chastity is important, but male chastity is not. I disagree. I think both are important.

                We all know that the actual verse about this is the one that says "forbidden to you are women already married, except those whom your right hands possess", however that verse is so subjective and open to interpretation that we might as well not bother. I for one think it right hands possess refers to husbands, hence "forbidden to you (in marriage) are married women, unless you're their husband".

                But if we want to keep chatting on about nothing, I have no objection. FAR, are you unhappy about my bin laden comment?

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                  unknownuser
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                  The verse doesn't actually say chastity? It says "what Allah would have them guard" - and that should surely apply to men to! Men should guard what Allah would have them guard.

                  So you're just taking your subjective opinion to say that female chastity is important, but male chastity is not. I disagree. I think both are important.

                  We all know that the actual verse about this is the one that says "forbidden to you are women already married, except those whom your right hands possess", however that verse is so subjective and open to interpretation that we might as well not bother. I for one think it right hands possess refers to husbands, hence "forbidden to you (in marriage) are married women, unless you're their husband".

                  But if we want to keep chatting on about nothing, I have no objection. FAR, are you unhappy about my bin laden comment?

                  Look closely and you will see its talking about the righteous women.........

                  Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.

                  Nothing about the men guarding what ever is to be guarded in the absence of their wives......... confused

                  We all know that the actual verse about this is the one that says "forbidden to you are women already married,

                  yep! that is good though.

                  God Bless.

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                    Samia
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                    Salaam Simple

                    More then one husband! Is it allowed? hypno

                    434
                    Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance) For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).

                    Since when did (ghaib) mean "husband's absence"?

                    and BTW, a husband can also be "nashez", so he can be "disloyal" and have "bad conduct"; should she still obey him? Did God tell her to "lightly beat" him? Do you know of any justice, let alone a divine one, where the punishment is based on the gender? What did God ask her to do in the case where the husband is "nashez"? The answer will explain what "adribuuhunna" means, because it's almost the same action she can take get seperated, but God says that there's no harm if "you make peace between them".

                    How is a woman guarding her chestity in the absence of one husband when she is having it off with another husband?

                    if she has more then one husband.

                    If the ayah is correct!

                    God Bless.

                    If she can legally be married to more than one husband, she is still guarding her chastity, just like a husband married to more than one woman, unless you believe that in such a case he will not be guarding his chastity, and that I will definitely agree with.

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                      Salaam Simple
                      Since when did (ghaib) mean "husband's absence"?

                      and BTW, a husband can also be "nashez", so he can be "disloyal" and have "bad conduct"; should she still obey him?

                      but surely she can still guard it until matters are sorted.

                      Did God tell her to "lightly beat" him? Do you know of any justice, let alone a divine one, where the punishment is based on the gender? What did God ask her to do in the case where the husband is "nashez"? The answer will explain what "adribuuhunna" means, because it's almost the same action she can take get seperated, but God says that there's no harm if "you make peace between them".
                      If she can legally be married to more than one husband, she is still guarding her chastity,

                      Then she will be guarding it for more then one husband,surely.

                      just like a husband married to more than one woman, unless you believe that in such a case he will not be guarding his chastity, and that I will definitely agree with.

                      yes that is what i meant, a husband isn't guarding it but flaunting it when he is with another wife.

                      So if she has to guard it when her husband isn't around only one husband option fulfills it- i think.

                      God Bless.

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                        Samia
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                        but surely she can still guard it until matters are sorted.

                        Guard what?

                        yes that is what i meant, a husband isn't guarding it but flaunting it when he is with another wife.

                        So if she has to guard it when her husband isn't around only one husband option fulfills it- i think.

                        God Bless.

                        Why does she "have" to guad it and not flaunt it when she is with another husband?

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                          unknownuser
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                          Guard what?

                          Surely you know!

                          What does a righteous woman have that she needs to guard?

                          Why does she "have" to guad it and not flaunt it when she is with another husband?

                          of course , when she has another husband she can flaunt it, but only one husband at a time

                          Salaam Samia.

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                            liquiddharma
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                            Surely you know!

                            What does a righteous woman have that she needs to guard?

                            The same thing a righteous man has that he needs to guard. Dignity and integrity.

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                              farida
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                              Guard what?Why does she "have" to guad it and not flaunt it when she is with another husband?

                              So she would know whose child she is carrying. &

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                                Samia
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                                So she would know whose child she is carrying. &

                                She does not have to if

                                • She is sterile or menopausal
                                  -She is already pregnant
                                  -he decides to have no more children
                                • One of the husbands is sterlile
                                  -Each husband is of different race
                                  -She is smart enough to know to whom the child belongs
                                • It does not matter who the child belongs to Each husband will have one assigned to him, or the richest will have them all ;D
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                                  liquiddharma
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                                  Guard what?Why does she "have" to guad it and not flaunt it when she is with another husband?

                                  So she would know whose child she is carrying. &

                                  So you think using a condom counts as 'guarding it'?

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                                    Elke
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                                    She does not have to if

                                    • She is sterile or menopausal
                                      -She is already pregnant
                                      -he decides to have no more children
                                    • One of the husbands is sterlile
                                      -Each husband is of different race
                                      -She is smart enough to know to whom the child belongs
                                    • It does not matter who the child belongs to Each husband will have one assigned to him, or the richest will have them all ;D

                                    you forgot if she has the means to pay for adn testing

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                                      Samia
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                                      you forgot if she has the means to pay for adn testing

                                      Of course! So, no more traditional excuses for why a woman cannot have more than a husband and peace of mind...well..sort of

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                                        Raj-ah
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                                        liquid dharma

                                        It's only the hadiths that tell us he had more than one wife at the same time. But even if it did, so what? He was a human being. He can make mistakes. The quran says he made mistakes.

                                        See dharma gee, you are at very initial level of knowledge about Muhammad and quran, it seems, or may be you are pretending. There are verses those confirm that Muhammad had more than one wives at a time. Yes Muhammad can commit a mistake but on his every mistake Allah made a grip but not on practicing polygene.
                                        I was not aware that a thread on almost same topic was being discussed here otherwise I would have not started a new one at general issues and questions.

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          Of course! So, no more traditional excuses for why a woman cannot have more than a husband and peace of mind...well..sort of

                                          Indeed she would get more then one piece- i think, when three of the husbands get hold of her at the same time...........Heaven Forbid!

                                          just joking though ;D

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