Good news for all messengers.:)
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Peace sister.
I am very interested to see if she has any other proof beside her claim that her name Becca matches with name of Most Important shrine Becca in 396.
I have posted same thing in her forum and asked her to visit this topic to clear up her claim.
Hope she shows up or at least rezones to my clip sent her or my comment.
Please let me know if you find any.
Peace.Peace Brother,
Good that you have asked her about her claim, if she is a messenger she has to respond.
And sure I will let you know if I find something...Maria
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Salam Belalhammad,
However, I disagree that the words should be translated as men and women.
Salam Arnab
I think we have no other choice but to discuss this issue &Let us do what true believers do when they defer in any issue, "ASK GOD". I did ask God, and He Answered as Follow
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They ask thy concerning the women. Say Allah doth instruct you about them and what hath been rehearsed unto you in the Book, concerning the orphans of women to whom ye give not the portions prescribed and yet whom ye desire to marry, as also concerning the children who are weak and oppressed that ye stand firm for justice to orphans. There is not a good deed which ye do, but Allah is well-acquainted therewith. (127) If a Female fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (4-12
What do you think about God's answer, can you accept that Nessa means Women?
Peace
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Salam Arnab
I think we have no other choice but to discuss this issue &Let us do what true believers do when they defer in any issue, "ASK GOD". I did ask God, and He Answered as Follow
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They ask thy concerning the women. Say Allah doth instruct you about them and what hath been rehearsed unto you in the Book, concerning the orphans of women to whom ye give not the portions prescribed and yet whom ye desire to marry, as also concerning the children who are weak and oppressed that ye stand firm for justice to orphans. There is not a good deed which ye do, but Allah is well-acquainted therewith. (127) If a Female fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (4-12
What do you think about God's answer, can you accept that Nessa means Women?
Peace
Salam Belalhammad,
I cannot agree that it means exclusively women.
Salam,
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Salam Belalhammad,
I cannot agree that it means exclusively women.
Salam,
ArnabPeace Arnab;
Do you mean in this verse or in general; because women is a well-established meaning for Nessa in that verse and many other; for example
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They ask you concerning menstruation. Say that is harmful, therefore keep away from women during menses and go not unto them till they are purified (from menses). And when they are purified (from menses), then go in unto them as All?h has ordained for you . Truly, All?h loves those who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves. (2-222)Peace
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Peace Belalhammad and everyone,
A Messanger has to Be Male, according to God's Words.
They say "Why is not an angel sent down to him?" If We did send down an angel, the matter would be settled at once, and no respite would be granted them. ( If We had made it an angel, We should have sent him as a man, and We should certainly have caused them confusion in a matter which they have already covered with confusion. (6-9)
reciting and teaching God's Messages (Quran, Torah, and Injeel) to humans is the ultimate duties of Messangers.
Yousuf Ali
(It is the practice of those) who preach the Messages of Allah, and fear Him, and fear none but Allah and enough is Allah to call (men) to account. (33-39)
Thus, Messagers are people whom God will teach the wisdom and the Kowledge of his existed Books in order to deliever clear Messages to their socity; In our days, I believe that such people, who have knowledge of the Book, do exist.
Are you placing restrictions on God, claiming that He is incapable of sending a female messenger? God can bestow His blessing and messengership upon anyone whom He sees worthy of the task. According to the Quran, men and women are equal to eachother (3195), and this means that God can grant messengership to anyone He chooses. Just because the word "RAJUL" is used doesn't mean it has to be referring to a male, and I don't think it is gender-specific at all. Throughout the scriptures, God is called "HE" and "HIM", so does that mean that God is a MALE? In this case, "RAJUL" is a general statement that can refer to anyone, male or female.
Peace,
Ahmad
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Peace Belalhammad and everyone,
Are you placing restrictions on God, claiming that He is incapable of sending a female messenger? God can bestow His blessing and messengership upon anyone whom He sees worthy of the task. According to the Quran, men and women are equal to eachother (3195), and this means that God can grant messengership to anyone He chooses. Just because the word "RAJUL" is used doesn't mean it has to be referring to a male, and I don't think it is gender-specific at all. Throughout the scriptures, God is called "HE" and "HIM", so does that mean that God is a MALE? In this case, "RAJUL" is a general statement that can refer to anyone, male or female.
Peace,
Ahmad
hypnoBilal vs Bilal o
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hypnoBilal vs Bilal o
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Peace Belalhammad and everyone,
Are you placing restrictions on God, claiming that He is incapable of sending a female messenger?
Peace;
I posted the verse that supports my opinion; it is a very well-established verse.
Moreover, I do not see any story about a Female Messanger or Prophet in Quran; the Frequancy of Male Prophet (or Messanger) Vs Female is 100% to 0%. Moreover, due to the hardship (physically and psychologically) that Messangers face, and due to God Mercy, Females were not choosen to perform such duties. If you think otherwise, please provide well-established verses that are stronger in meaning than 6-9.Salam
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Are you placing restrictions on God, claiming that He is incapable of sending a female messenger?
Peace all;
I will share with you an example and I want your opinions (Female opinion will be great)
Can a Female go to Mecca beside the Kabba and say in a loud voice that "Following Hadiths and associating it to God is Shirk"
And that is what prophet and Messangers did before; now, can any one of you give me an honest opinion if such a job is fitting for Females.
Salam
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Peace all;
I will share with you an example and I want your opinions (Female opinion will be great)
Can a Female go to Mecca beside the Kabba and say in a loud voice that "Following Hadiths and associating it to God is Shirk"
And that is what prophet and Messangers did before; now, can any one of you give me an honest opinion if such a job is fitting for Females.
Salam
Salam Bilal
Prophets were protected believe me if you go there and say that you wont come alive &
voodoo
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Peace all;
I will share with you an example and I want your opinions (Female opinion will be great)
Can a Female go to Mecca beside the Kabba and say in a loud voice that "Following Hadiths and associating it to God is Shirk"
And that is what prophet and Messangers did before; now, can any one of you give me an honest opinion if such a job is fitting for Females.
Salam
salam,
i agree its not fitting for females, but unfortunatley there are no men to stand uo these days at ka3ba and say such things, they fear for there lives or simply want to keep there stomaches full from government. -
Salam Bilal
Prophets were protected believe me if you go there and say that you wont come alive &
voodoo
which Bilal confused
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Salam Farida; it has been a Long time since I saw one of your posts.
Well, keep it going...you are protacted behinde your computer rotfl -
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Peace;
I posted the verse that supports my opinion; it is a very well-established verse.
Moreover, I do not see any story about a Female Messanger or Prophet in Quran; the Frequancy of Male Prophet (or Messanger) Vs Female is 100% to 0%. Moreover, due to the hardship (physically and psychologically) that Messangers face, and due to God Mercy, Females were not choosen to perform such duties. If you think otherwise, please provide well-established verses that are stronger in meaning than 6-9.Salam
Peace all;
I will share with you an example and I want your opinions (Female opinion will be great)
Can a Female go to Mecca beside the Kabba and say in a loud voice that "Following Hadiths and associating it to God is Shirk"
And that is what prophet and Messangers did before; now, can any one of you give me an honest opinion if such a job is fitting for Females.
Salam
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I'm aginest Female carying Messangers Mission, espacially The Kabba Mission. But the other BilalPeace Belalhammad and everyone,
Are you placing restrictions on God, claiming that He is incapable of sending a female messenger? God can bestow His blessing and messengership upon anyone whom He sees worthy of the task.
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salam,
i agree its not fitting for females, but unfortunatley there are no men to stand uo these days at ka3ba and say such things, they fear for there lives or simply want to keep there stomaches full from government.Peace
Rashad said that far away , they tried to buy him and did not work was killed.
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Salam Farida;
Well, keep it going...you are protacted behinde your computer rotflSalaam Belalhammad,
You would be surprised if I was to tell you that I am one of those women who have stood up against wrong and have suffered injustice at the hands of the very people who advocate women's rights, human rights and the rights of minorities and, so far I have not come across men who dared to risk their wordly dellights for the truth.
So no I am not really proteced behind my computer but ALlah has been my protector. If something happens to me, as a result of my being outspoken against wrong, then do not think that I was not protected, but it was wrtten for me.peace
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Peace Belalhammad,
Can a Female go to Mecca beside the Kabba and say in a loud voice that "Following Hadiths and associating it to God is Shirk"
And that is what prophet and Messangers did before; now, can any one of you give me an honest opinion if such a job is fitting for Females.
The prophets and messengers of old did these things because God was supporting them, as He does with all of His messengers. So, a female prophet or messenger WOULD absolutely be able to do this. God is the controller of all events, and He has predetermined all things. God is surely capable to protecting His servants from angry crowds and blasphemers, whether male or female, just like He has done throughout history.
Peace,
Ahmad
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Peace Belalhammad,
The prophets and messengers of old did these things because God was supporting them, as He does with all of His messengers. So, a female prophet or messenger WOULD absolutely be able to do this. God is the controller of all events, and He has predetermined all things. God is surely capable to protecting His servants from angry crowds and blasphemers, whether male or female, just like He has done throughout history.
Peace,
Ahmad
Peace,
But wasn't many of the messengers killed?
Maria