WHY JESUS, COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN WITHOUT A FATHER...
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All i can say in this subject of Mariam is that clearly an angel in the form of a man was sent to her by Allah, then when she was pregnant and the people saw her they said she fornicated...someone who is guilty of fornication would not be confident facing her people with a pregnant belly, she however has faith in Allah and is a thankful servant (unthankfulness, that is kufr and guilt)
Fornication is not proven in islam unless 4 people witness the act, one who accuses a woman of fornication without bringing 4 witnesses is considered a liar and i believe is even to be flogged 80 times and never will a testemony be taken from him again. Take the example when people even gossiped that the wife of the prophet had fornicated with the man who brought her home because she lagged behind from the caravan. Allah is very serious about accusing someone of fornicating without 4 witnesses.
One is not allowed to look into ones window, or go into ones house without invitation...so the only way one would be found guilty of fornication is when it is done outside, in the open and when Allah decrees that 4 people would witness it...this would clearly mean Allah wishes these people to be punished for their acts with 100 lashes it is very unlikely to be caught in the act by 4 people while taking precautions and making sure no one is arround, but when it is done in the middle of the road or in public it becomes harmful to others who would witness it and maybe even their childeren. The main idea is that it is not allowed to accuse or gossip about others, especially in the subject of fornication, but when 4 witness it it clearly needs to be dealt with,
(stoning is not a quranic law, and it says alot that such a harsh punishment is not even mentioned once in the koran but is applied to muslimeen, i mean if it was a punishment for muslimeen why does not Allah mention it even once in the quran while it being such a severe punishment but mentions only lashes....)Hypothetical situation
girl"so you love me?"
man"yes baby and i wish to marry you..."
-they start kissing--girls starts feeling his back and feels where he got lashed-
girl"get out of my house now you dirty fornicator!". -
The hypothesis probebly comes over as corney -(does it make you feel slightly ashamed? i wonder why lol )- but the point is that a fornicator who has been punished with 100 lashes will have a harder time fooling young women....that was the main idea behind the silly scene...anyway what does that face you put there mean? did you read the whole post and found something conflicting in it or is it just in connection to my "hypothetical situation"?
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silverstar wrote...
The hypothesis probebly comes over as corney -(does it make you feel slightly ashamed?'ashamed'? -S
silverstar wrote...
i wonder why )-beats me! -S
silverstar wrote...
but the point is that a fornicator who has been punished with 100 lashes will have a harder time fooling young women....that was the main idea behind the silly scene...do u always use such out-standing scenes to demonstrate ur main ideas? -S
silverstar wrote...
anyway what does that face you put there mean? did you read the whole post and found something conflicting in it or is it just in connection to my "hypothetical situation"?'face'? -S
lolz! p
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To your question wether i always use "such outstanding scenes" to explain my views the answer is no, i am not a film maker...but if that scene was worked out further and put in a movie it would show another view concerning the punishment of flogging a "die hard" adulterer.
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silverstar wrote...
To your question wether i always use "such outstanding scenes" to explain my views the answer is no, i am not a film maker...lolz!
silverstar wrote...
but if that scene was worked out further and put in a movie it would show another view concerning the punishment of flogging a "die hard" adulterer.cool! -)
i guess i am simply hallucinating! i think it really is high time i take my leave! -)