The Mysterious Two Seas
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Peace FM,
One of the great abuses of the Quran is to merge science into the Book without sure knowledge putting the Quran in range for attacks by the critics. One of the supposed miracles of the Quran is that it talks about the two seas that meet each other and between them is a barrier where they don't intermix. Yes, this kind of barrier exist between the Mediterranean and the Atlantic due to difference in salinity but both are not suitable for drinking which contradicts the following verse
3512 Nor are the two seas the same. One is fresh and palatable, good to drink, while the other is salty and bitter. And from each of them you eat tender meat, and you extract jewelry to wear. And you see the ships sailing through them, seeking His provisions; and perhaps you may be appreciative.
There is also another problem that there is no seawater that is palatable to drink. This mean 'bahr' doesn't mean sea but a collection of water. The only example (I know of) where drinkable water meets salty water is in the mouth of a river! And yes we eat fish from both the sea and the river. This gets interesting when you look at the following
1860 And Moses said to his youth I will not stop until I reach the junction of the two seas, or I spend a lifetime trying.
Here Moses is determined to reach the junction between the two seas. But how will he know this if they are two 'seas' in our terms. Will he taste the water and when the salinity changes bingo he will know he did it. No, simply Moses was trying to get to the mouth of the river.
There is also another problem. Moses' mother threw the basket, according to the Quran, into the sea. Which sea is this? and how will the basket drift to the shore? Isn't it more logical to be thrown into a river which naturally moves toward the sea? Does this mean 'yam' can aslo be a river? Was Pharaoh drowned in a river?
Please share your thoughts.
Peace,
Rami
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nice reasoning rami. it's something i have wondered about too. wasnt it that french scientist who proposed to the KSA gov that this verse was about the med and atlantic ? They pretty much believed everything he said and paid him handsomely but as much "scientific proof" that he found, it never persuaded him to accept islam.
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nice reasoning rami. it's something i have wondered about too. wasnt it that french scientist who proposed to the KSA gov that this verse was about the med and atlantic ? They pretty much believed everything he said and paid him handsomely but as much as "scientific proof" that he found, it never persuaded him to accept islam.
Maybe because the french scientist knew that you cant drink from either of them ;D
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I wrote a short essay on this well over a year ago which you can read at http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=13581.0 Looking at it now I realize what a dork I sounded like, but I daresay the essay answers your question.
Peace Supernaut,
Very detailed post. Thanks. But what about the Moses' basket? Did his mother threw it in a river or a sea? the so called 'yam' if it is a sea, which one?
Peace.