The Mysterious Two Seas
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You can sit here and be fresh, and think it doesn't harm you, you are no muslim. And there are plenty of people like you here, who can pay the price.
What did I say that makes me a non-muslim. Man I am a radical!! I read Milestones for Syed Qutb. I am just saying that the meeting between the two seas is the mouth of the river. Unless you want to push the Quran into a contraditction.
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You think that's tough? Pfft. You need to watch this , which is a scene from one of the greatest movies ever made. But be warned, the video is deliciously violent and gory.
I just wanted to sheer him up. What is wrong with him?? I have read his previous posts, it is about he is mad at gays?! Who isnt D
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well this could have been an interesting topic to discuss. you think we can stay on point now?
Ofcourse after all this fireworks. Lets continue. In the Torah, Moses mother threw the box into a river which took the box near pharaoh's place becasue rivers are supposedly are flowing underneath him. The Quran states that the box was thrown into the ?am' which is translated into sea. If we are in Egypt, which sea is this?! If yam is a river then Pharaoh was drown in the river and the golden calf was thrown in the river too which means this didn't leave Egypt!
As regard, the mouth of the river. It is the only example where fresh water meat salty water.
What do you think?
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yeah i agree about the mouth of the river and wonder about the root word tha makes yam'hwich. perhaps it means more of a body of water than a sea. and moses' mother throwing him into a river makes more sense than a sea.
so yam is like bahr, a body of water. But how do you know whether its referring for a sea or a river?!
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Rami,
BHR
Slit, cut, divide lengthwise, split, enlarge or make wide
Embarking upon the sea or a great river (vast expanse of water)
Growing in anything (wealth, possessions, knowledge etc)
A vast expanse of water (Ocean, sea, huge river)
A fleet swift horse called because of its speed like the rolling of the waves in the sea
A generous man who is ample in his generosity
Wide tract of land, land belonging to or inhabited by people
Any town, village or city that has a running river or a body of water
Low or depressed land
A large meadow or garden
A place where water stagnates
Of, relating to, or belonging to the ocean, sea or any vast body of water
Seaman, sailor
Vehemence of heat (corresponding to the month of July, Syrian)
The moon
"Bahira" (a camel dedicated to idols, 5103)?Source http//www.studyquran.co.uk/3_BA.htm
YMM
sea, river, to aim at getting, to intend, to have recourse to, to resort to, to head for.
Source http//www.studyquran.co.uk/26_YA.htm
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Peace Supernaut,
So 'yam' could be a river so this could possibly indicate that thet didn't leave Egypt maybe thats why it says
2652 And We inspired Moses Take away My servants, for you will be followed.
2653 So Pharaoh sent gatherers to the cities.
2654 These are but a small band.
2655 And they have done what has enraged us.
2656 And We are all gathered and forewarned.
2657 So, We evicted them out of gardens and springs.
2658 And treasures and an honorable dwelling.
2659 As such, We gave it to the Children of Israel.
2660 So they were pursued at sunrise.
2661 But when the two groups saw each other, the companions of Moses said We are caught!
2662 He said No, my Lord is with me and He will guide me.
2663 So We inspired to Moses Strike the sea(river) with your staff. So it split into two, each side like a great mountain.
2664 And We then brought them to the other side.
2665 And We saved Moses and all those with him.
2666 Then We drowned the others.Here Moses splitted the river into two and went to the other side with his followers and Pharaoh and his followers went after them and drowned. Crossing a sea is a LONG journery!! they crossed the same river in which Moses mother threw the Basket.
Peace.
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Salaams All,
I think.
You can see the two seas from the previous 12-ayah?s of the sura, if you give it much thought.
- The sea which leaves a good taste (good deeds)
- The sea that will leave bitter tastes (bad/evil actions)
Using lanes dictionary;
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Nor are the two seas of knowledge alike, - the one palatable, sweet, and pleasant to permeate/drink, and the other, pleasant and bitter. Yet from each do ye eat/betake goodness refreshing, and get benefits; and thou seest the affairs therein latter that ye seek - of the Bounty of Allah that ye may be grateful.Mind it is fun just to keep imagining rather then researching as it does keep giving many different answers.......
God Bless.