What brought me here?

Rev_John

Well, the same applies to Muslims. A real Muslim does not attack or kill people, unless he is attacked first. I don't think there is any religion that says; "go and attack people, even if they don't attack you".

bravo

Recluse

Why would that not make sense? we both believe in the same God, the Quran and the Bible say (basically) the same thing. A God-alone Christian and a God-alone Muslim are quite close.

I don't know if you would call me a God alone Muslim, although I think I am, lol. I realize that there are many so called authentic hadiths that contradict God's message in the Qur'an. However, I don't think we have to get rid of all hadiths, including those who don't contradict the Qur'an, in order to become a God alone Muslim.

Recluse

Well thats fine. As I don't believe in hell, it doesn't really matter does it?

There is no concept of hell in the Bible ???

I believe in Hell, but I don't think that disbelievers are going to remain there in eternity. There are Islamic scholars who believe that Hell is going to disappear after people receive punishment, but unlike believers, disbelievers will "disappear" together with Hell & Only monotheists will live in eternity in Paradise. But as we Muslims say; "God knows best". I know He will be just

Meteora

Jesus didn't die for shit. God took him.

Also I believe in hell but I think it's for just retribution i.e. not damned forever.

MUNZIR_ALI

Jesus didn't die for shit. God took him.

Also I believe in hell but I think it's for just retribution i.e. not damned forever.

what rev said in another thread is partially right in my opinion. "hell is an absence from God" So God is absent from us at that time.

I do not believe in hell. If God is our father, then what father would condemn his children to hell Eternal damnation, etc.?

It does not say eternal or temporary..I believe that God would forgive his "children" (us) for he is the most merciful.. pr

Rev_John

what rev said in another thread is partially right in my opinion. "hell is an absence from God" So God is absent from us at that time.It does not say eternal or temporary..I believe that God would forgive his "children" (us) for he is the most merciful.. pr

bravo

Meteora

It is comforting to think that and common among us, since we probably don't even know what it means to be God's true enemy.

However I believe those going are truly deserving of God's wrath and we may not know since we're probably allies of the god. In fact I think Muhammad prayed for God to forgive them (like we do and wish for their salvation) and God said no, you don't know them.

MUNZIR_ALI

and God said no, you don't know them.

???

Recluse

I believe that God would forgive his "children" (us) for he is the most merciful.. pr

God is the most merciful. However, it would be very unjust if murderers and criminals etc. received the same rewards (and punishment) as those who are righteous. Surely, God will not treat them equally; that would be unjust and unGodly behaviour.

However, there is no doubt that God is merciful. Look at some of His names )

Ar-Rahmn The All Beneficent, The Most Merciful in Essence, The Compassionate, The Most Gracious.

Ar-Rahm The Most Merciful, The Most Merciful in Actions.

As-Salm The Peace and Blessing, The Source of Peace and Safety, The Most Perfect.

Al-Muhaymin The Guardian, The Preserver, The Overseeing Protector.

Al-Bri' The Rightful.

Al-Ghaffr The Ever Forgiving.

Al-Wahhb The Bestower.

Ar-Razzq The Ever Providing.

Ar-Rfi The Exalter.

Al-`Adl The Utterly Just.

Al-Laf The Gentle, The Subtly Kind.

Al-alm The Forbearing, The Indulgent.

Al-Ghafr The All Forgiving.

Al-Muqt The Nourisher.

Al-asb The Bringer of Judgment.

Al-Karm The Bountiful, The Generous.

Al-Wadd The Loving, The Kind One.

Al-Wakl The Trustee, The Dependable.

Al-Barr The Most Kind and Righteous.

Al-Afuww The Pardoner, The Effacer of Sins.

Ar-Ra'f The Compassionate, The All Pitying.

An-Nfi The Propitious, The Benefactor.

MUNZIR_ALI