According to the present understanding of the quran which religion is better?
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I never once said the Quran is false .... I said IF
Oh yeah..OK.
Did you check the links?
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Peace Simple,
peace Taj,
My religion is to Endeavour to the cause of God/Life force/Way, something that is bringing about all the positive results in the cosmos and secondly fulfilling my obligations to others.
That is strange! Your understanding does not come from the dictionary you want others to stick to! As you preached Salgan (Salim)
Hi Salim,I think we aught to use the general dictionary definition of the word religion, as that is how the world understands it rather then the few who may literally define it differently, don't you think.
!!!And here is the quote from the dictionary that you have brought in an earlier post
Definition
religion Show phonetics
noun
1 the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship
the Christian religion2 INFORMAL an activity which someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly
Football is a religion for these people.religious Show phonetics
adjective
1 relating to religion
religious education2 having a strong belief in a god or gods
He's deeply religious and goes to church twice a week.religiously Show phonetics
adverb
1 in ways or subjects relating to religion
India is quite diverse, both politically and religiously.2 INFORMAL If you do something religiously, you do it regularly
He visits his mother religiously every week.!!!
Many different meanings for the word "religion".
And your personal understanding is not one of them!I think the greatest thing which all religions try to do (Theoretically) is give life the greatest value.
Your statement is contradictory.
If what you say is true, why then all religions don't become one? At least for the great and noble purpose they all call for!!?? Isn't this noble cause worthy enough for them to unite under one name!? Isn't the God enough for His believers?I think this alone outweighs the wrongs that are done by some of the followers of religion as the majority will always uphold this belief.
Please don't throw all the blame on the sheep majority. They only follow what they are told by the "religion's authorities" whether clearly or implied.
Otherwise there may be many more Hitler?s in the world then there have been, God forbid.
Hitler is but one of many. He only got his vast reputation for obvious reasons. Have you been living in a cave!?
peace
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Peace Simple
Thats been the trouble with religion majority of people stick to dictionary definition and IGNORE what they observe what religion truly is CONTROL by the Few over the many by fear .
You do not need Religion to Believe or to be Responsible for your actions .
Peace Salim
Live long and prosper
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Peace Simple,
That is strange! Your understanding does not come from the dictionary you want others to stick to! As you preached Salgan (Salim) !!!And here is the quote from the dictionary that you have brought in an earlier post!!!
Many different meanings for the word "religion".
And your personal understanding is not one of them!I think my belief in the God is there in the dictionary, check it!
Your statement is contradictory.
If what you say is true, why then all religions don't become one? At least for the great and noble purpose they all call for!!?? Isn't this noble cause worthy enough for them to unite under one name!? Isn't the God enough for His believers?Of course he is enough and the differances don't remove the importance of the value given to life.
Please don't throw all the blame on the sheep majority. They only follow what they are told by the "religion's authorities" whether clearly or implied.
The majority may be the sheep but they aren't the Fasidoon/trouble makers- who don't value life.
Hitler is but one of many. He only got his vast reputation for obvious reasons. Have you been living in a cave!?
Yes he was of the minority, and not the majority.
peace
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Peace Simple
Thats been the trouble with religion majority of people stick to dictionary definition and IGNORE what they observe
Do they really ignore what they observe-No we can't and don't ignore what we observe.
Proof is all around us.
so far its been improving over the decades- check history of what people used to do until religions came about, people where basically animal like.
what religion truly is CONTROL by the Few over the many by fear .
Of course all religions are controlled by a few but you can have a religion of your own- un-doubtedly you have one.
You do not need Religion to Believe or to be Responsible for your actions.
Please check the definition of religion above- its not what we think it is.
example;
2 INFORMAL If you do something religiously, you do it regularly
He visits his mother religiously every week.Live long and prosper
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Traditional Islam
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Are you kidding?
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I added that smiley later. You probably didn't see it before you clicked quote. ;D
Hey, how did you get that smiley? is it on free minds?
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Peace Simple,
And does, or actually, should your belief belong to a certain religion?
peace
Yes, God Alone.
peace
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Peace Simple,
And does, or actually, should your belief belong to a certain religion?
Yes, God Alone.
And of course, you do realize that this is your personal understanding that is based on the English definition of the word "religion" that you have provided earlier, which by the way I would really like if you would highlight the exact part you chose of the many definitions listed in your quote just so to spare others (me included) from any possible misunderstanding,, bearing in mind that that definition may have nothing to do with the meaning of the Arabic word "deen" according or as it appeared in the Quran, and also may have nothing to do with the commonly understood meaning of the word "deen" among Arabic speaking people. Conclusion A fresh research of the Quranic definition of "deen" is required. May Allah enlighten us.
All the best,
Taj -
I voted "Other" simply because I do not see and difference between the basic beliefs of any of those religions mentioned. I am a Christian (not traditional) and I believe almost exactly the same as most "God-alone", "Quran-alone" Muslims. So what is the difference between us?
I think I have found out the difference between God alone muslims and God alone christians..God alone muslims do not eat the flesh of the swine. however god alone christians do?
peace
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Peace Simple,
Yes, God Alone.
And of course, you do realize that this is your personal understanding that is based on the English definition of the word "religion" that you have provided earlier, which by the way I would really like if you would highlight the exact part you chose of the many definitions listed in your quote just so to spare others (me included) from any possible misunderstanding,, bearing in mind that that definition may have nothing to do with the meaning of the Arabic word "deen" according or as it appeared in the Quran, and also may have nothing to do with the commonly understood meaning of the word "deen" among Arabic speaking people. Conclusion A fresh research of the Quranic definition of "deen" is required. May Allah enlighten us.
All the best,
TajMy religion- now
having a strong belief in a god/ Life Force.
So as to do things religiously,regularly- with Justice.
Deen- according to the quran and dictionary - is i believe Justice/ all fareness , which becomes a religion every step of the way, and the belief/faith in the God is the rose bud that gives us the fragerance of justice.
peace
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I think I have found out the difference between God alone muslims and God alone christians..God alone muslims do not eat the flesh of the swine. however god alone christians do?
peace
Does eating the flash of swine or of a cow matter to someone who has never seen the quran? but doing good and avoiding evil does-irrespective of whether you have or have not recieved the quran, whether you are living in the jungles of Africa the Amazon. I don't believe pigs are even mentioned in the great reading.
But saying that not even i eat it - as was brought up that way, its the programing.
hypno
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I think I have found out the difference between God alone muslims and God alone christians..God alone muslims do not eat the flesh of the swine. however god alone christians do?
peace
I think that is the only difference between Christians and almost all others. eat