Alif; Laam and Meem with ancillary glyph/prolongation sign
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I thought I was in duscussion with a literary person.
And when We appointed/declared/made "The House" the place of pilgrimage/return/assembly for people
and a place of safety/shelter/amnesty;
and for them to adopt the standing place of Iebra'heim as a standing/assembly place of sa'laat;
and We enjoined/imposed a pledge/duty upon Iebra'heim and Iesma'eile
that they should maintain/manage the cleanliness/sanctity of My House for those people who circle around it, and stay around it, and for the purpose of bowing and prostration of people.
Allah has appointed/declared the Sanctified House Al-Ka'abata enduringly a place of assembly/stay/congregation for the people.
If you find time you may find that it is not mindlessly copy and paste by an idiot, please see the translation by me here
http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.01.A.htmI would be happy if you point out mistakes or anyhypothetical assertions therein. Now can you tell me which one is "My House" and in which city it is located?
Peace Mazhar,
Let me start with the second part first.
Since you didn't translate the word "al-ka'abat" then you clearly don't know its meaning and you think that it is the name of the specific physical stone cube in Mecca that was built by the Saudis in 1996.
Let's now further confirm using physical reality that you don't understand what the word "al-ka'abat" means.
The physical reality is that the pagan stone cube that you name Al-Ka'abata without even knowing what the word means is not for the people but only for certain people who have a certain religion stamped on their ID and who manage to get a visa to be allowed into Saudi Arabia.
The physical reality is that it is not for the people but only for the people that Saudis approve of.
I already explained above that the PHYSICAL REALITY is that your Al-Ka'abata that you don't know what it means is not a place for safety. Since you couldn't respond to the facts about safety in Mecca that I presented above, then I will take this as you surrendering to the physical reality that your pagan house is not a place of safety.
According to you, "maqam Ibrahim" is the footprint idol next to your stone cube idol named Al-Ka'abata. So what you are saying is that we should take the footprint as a standing/assembly place of sa'laat. The physical reality is that you can only fit one person at a time standing in the footprint.
The physical reality is that the house in Mecca is not clean and it is full of filthy idols. If you go over there, you will see people trample over old ladies so that they can touch and kiss those idols. This is the physical reality.
It is good that you are now providing a translation which exposes your understanding (or your lack thereof). As we saw, you don't understand what the word "al-ka'abat" means and thus you will not be able to translate it no matter how hard you try.
As I pointed out, your understanding has nothing to do with reality and it is only in your imagination.
As I said many times, the location is clearly given in 2226 as ANY place where partners are not setup with the god. This is what is special and enables us to identify the location of the house.
Peace,
Ayman
If anyone reads the tactics adopted by the Pagans of Mecca in the days of revelation of Grand Qur'aan, he will find similarity with the above approach of ayman. Qur'aan is everywhere talking about specific "My House" and Specific Location and Specific Purpose and aymen still insists "ANY" place. I therefore again suggest him to please start taking a lesson of Arabic from an excellent teacher luckily available on this Form, Sister Samia.
Definite Noun; has been used with "The Sanctified House". And Ibraheem alahissalm had said, " " "O Lord Your Sanctified House".
Therefore is to be read and understood with reference to the word and not with reference to anything. The perception infolded in the Root of is that of prominence and appearance. It is employed to refer to ankle bone which projects above the tarsus. It is used to refer to prominent and protuberant breasts of a woman. Such breast which is not protuberant Root is used and like of that particular breast are the orbits of sun and moon etc.
It is used to refer to a square/rectangle. . It is also employed for any quadruped, four leg mammals; four legs make a rectangle. And any thing square/rectangle has the peculiarity of prominence, visibility, raised above ground. When we say "My house" the perception conveyed is that of a physical structure having four walls, a roof and a door. Ayman, is this "ANY place" or a specific physical place? -
Salam,
When we say "My house" the perception conveyed is that of a physical structure having four walls, a roof and a door. Ayman, is this "ANY place" or a specific physical place?
Not really.... read 7128, Noah clearly was not referring to his physical under water house...
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Salam,
Pl read that again carefully. Returning from parenthetic, the prayer of Noah alahissalam is quoted. It is not in the midst of flood.
You are the one who should read carefully...
from quran literal
7125 Because of their sins they were drowned, then they were admitted to the Fire, and they could not find beside God any victor.
7126 And Noah said ?My Lord, do not leave on the Earth any of the rejecters at all.?
7127 ?If you are to leave them, then they will misguide Your servants and they will only give birth to a wicked rejecter.?
7128 ?My Lord, forgive me, and my parents, and whoever enters my home as a believer, and to the believing men and believing women; and do not increase the wicked except in destruction.?Noah prayer clearly after the flood...
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Salam,
You are the one who should read carefully...
from quran literal
7125 Because of their sins they were drowned, then they were admitted to the Fire, and they could not find beside God any victor.
7126 And Noah said ?My Lord, do not leave on the Earth any of the rejecters at all.?
7127 ?If you are to leave them, then they will misguide Your servants and they will only give birth to a wicked rejecter.?
7128 ?My Lord, forgive me, and my parents, and whoever enters my home as a believer, and to the believing men and believing women; and do not increase the wicked except in destruction.?Noah prayer clearly not before the flood...
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Salam,
Please start from 21 onwards and then see that 25 is not related to prayer but is a parenthetic/comment giving information. And after this his prayer is continued; wa qala
and also please read Noah prayer carefully... ?My Lord, do not leave on the Earth any of the rejecters at all.?
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- And it is He Who has restrained their hands from you and your hands from them in the midst of Mecca after that He gave you the victory over them. And Allah sees well all that ye do.
Here is the translation of 4824 using Classical Arabic dictionaries and the context of war from the passage to translate the common description "mecca"
- And it is He Who has restrained their hands from you and your hands from them in the midst of destruction after that He gave you the victory over them. And Allah sees well all that ye do.
sister Samia would you please confirm if mecca in the above verse means "Mecca in Saudi Arabia only" or "destruction" as brother ayman says? and also we Muslims believe masjidil haram means kaabah at Mecca in Saudi Arabia only is that the correct translation of masjidil haram or not?
Thanks
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sister Samia would you please confirm if mecca in the above verse means "Mecca in Saudi Arabia only" or "destruction" as brother ayman says? and also we Muslims believe masjidil haram means kaabah at Mecca in Saudi Arabia only is that the correct translation of masjidil haram or not?
Thanks
Salaam RH
Lisaanul 3arab says that "Macca" is so called because water in it is scarce and they have to "suck " it from the soil. So the meaning of macca as Ayman states is the verbal noun of to suck. It also means "crowd" and "destruction"The other thing to consider is whether the expression (batn (belly) is normally used with towns and cities. There are two main usages of batn
1- Directly related to belly as in sub tribe = batn.
2-Indirectly related to the shape of belly surrounded in all directions/in the mids as in Batn of the earth and of a valley.
3- When talking of a town, the word used is (baatina\ ) and means the inner society (from Al-3ain dictionary).
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Salaam RH
Lisaanul 3arab says that "Macca" is so called because water in it is scarce and they have to "suck " it from the soil. So the meaning of macca as Ayman states is the verbal noun of to suck. It also means "crowd" and "destruction"The other thing to consider is whether the expression (batn (belly) is normally used with towns and cities. There are two main usages of batn
1- Directly related to belly as in sub tribe = batn.
2-Indirectly related to the shape of belly surrounded in all directions/in the mids as in Batn of the earth and of a valley.
3- When talking of a town, the word used is (baatina\ ) and means the inner society (from Al-3ain dictionary).
Thank you sister Samia. So it means midst of Mecca is the correct translation. Thanks again peace
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2145 And even if you bring to those who have been given the Book every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust.
2148 And every one has a direction to which he should turn, therefore hasten to (do) good works; wherever you are, Allah will bring you all together; surely Allah has power over all things
Purpose serves as a principle around which to organize our lives.
so what is your QIBLA??
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2145 And even if you bring to those who have been given the Book every sign they would not follow your qiblah, nor can you be a follower of their qiblah, neither are they the followers of each other's qiblah, and if you follow their desires after the knowledge that has come to you, then you shall most surely be among the unjust.
2148 And every one has a direction to which he should turn, therefore hasten to (do) good works; wherever you are, Allah will bring you all together; surely Allah has power over all things
Purpose serves as a principle around which to organize our lives.
so what is your QIBLA??
Ok, thanks. So I guess it's not referring at all to what direction your prayer should be at.
Kinda makes the traditional "Qibla" a useless one.
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Peace Mazhar,
If anyone reads the tactics adopted by the Pagans of Mecca in the days of revelation of Grand Qur'aan, he will find similarity with the above approach of ayman. Qur'aan is everywhere talking about specific "My House" and Specific Location and Specific Purpose and aymen still insists "ANY" place. I therefore again suggest him to please start taking a lesson of Arabic from an excellent teacher luckily available on this Form, Sister Samia.
I am sure Samia knows all about the pagan in Mecca. We all do. We all see them mindlessly spinning seven times around a stone cube and kissing and fondling it and the Black Stone. One doesn't even need to know Arabic to see the pagan circus going on in Mecca. If the same exact thing was happening in your town, you would also call it pagan. The air in Mecca doesn't turn something pagan into something rational.
Definite Noun; has been used with "The Sanctified House". And Ibraheem alahissalm had said, " " "O Lord Your Sanctified House".
Therefore is to be read and understood with reference to the word and not with reference to anything. The perception infolded in the Root of is that of prominence and appearance. It is employed to refer to ankle bone which projects above the tarsus. It is used to refer to prominent and protuberant breasts of a woman. Such breast which is not protuberant Root is used and like of that particular breast are the orbits of sun and moon etc.
It is used to refer to a square/rectangle. . It is also employed for any quadruped, four leg mammals; four legs make a rectangle. And any thing square/rectangle has the peculiarity of prominence, visibility, raised above ground. When we say "My house" the perception conveyed is that of a physical structure having four walls, a roof and a door. Ayman, is this "ANY place" or a specific physical place?So according to your nonsense 597 is saying one of the following
- The god has made the ankle bone the inviolable house...
- The god has made the breast of a woman the inviolable house...
- The god has made the four leg mammal the inviolable house...
- The god has made the anything square/rectangle the inviolable house...
- The god has made the physical structure having four walls, a roof and a door the inviolable house...
As predicted, you don't know the meaning of "kaaba" and you exposed your ignorance on this matter. I would suggest that you kindly ask sister Samia how she understands mundane everyday Arabic expressions like "ka3b al-wadi" when she hears it used by folks in rural Arabia and "ka3b al-7ithaa". Ask her if it means "the ankle/woman's breast/4-legged mammal/rectangle/four walls, roof and door" of the valley or the shoe or does it have another meaning that every Arabic speaker knows very well?
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace Mazhar,
I am sure Samia knows all about the pagan in Mecca. We all do. We all see them mindlessly spinning seven times around a stone cube and kissing and fondling it and the Black Stone. One doesn't even need to know Arabic to see the pagan circus going on in Mecca. If the same exact thing was happening in your town, you would also call it pagan. The air in Mecca doesn't turn something pagan into something rational.
So according to your nonsense 597 is saying one of the following
- The god has made the ankle bone the inviolable house...
- The god has made the breast of a woman the inviolable house...
- The god has made the four leg mammal the inviolable house...
- The god has made the anything square/rectangle the inviolable house...
- The god has made the physical structure having four walls, a roof and a door the inviolable house...
As predicted, you don't know the meaning of "kaaba" and you exposed your ignorance on this matter. I would suggest that you kindly ask sister Samia how she understands mundane everyday Arabic expressions like "ka3b al-wadi" when she hears it used by folks in rural Arabia and "ka3b al-7ithaa". Ask her if it means "the ankle/woman's breast/4-legged mammal/rectangle/four walls, roof and door" of the valley or the shoe or does it have another meaning that every Arabic speaker knows very well?
Peace,
Ayman
Frankly speaking You are an idiot as well an emotionalist. Senseless talk. No discussion.