People Of THE Book... Which Book?
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In English or in Arabic? In some languages words flow well together, but, often, when they get translated to another language they lose their flow.
Quran is a book that will and should always be in Arabic to preserve the text!
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Quran is a book that will and should always be in Arabic to preserve the text!
If the quran is the only book that is preserved among all the revealed books then we will be certain that there is a change in the way of God. God forgive me.
And you will not find any change in Our way.1777 -
If the quran is the only book that is preserved among all the revealed books then we will be certain that there is a change in the way of God. God forgive me.
And you will not find any change in Our way.1777The Torah is also preserved, and that's why every Hebrew manuscript of the Torah is exactly the same, down to each letter. It's been the same text for centuries... The Biblical gospels, in my opinion, are not necessarily preserved because they were never inspired by God in the first place. They're just manmade books that some people believe detail the life of Jesus, and there's not even any historical evidence that these books were actually written by Jesus' disciples.
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The Torah is also preserved, and that's why every Hebrew manuscript of the Torah is exactly the same, down to each letter. It's been the same text for centuries... The Biblical gospels, in my opinion, are not necessarily preserved because they were never inspired by God in the first place. They're just manmade books that some people believe detail the life of Jesus, and there's not even any historical evidence that these books were actually written by Jesus' disciples.
hmm interesting!
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The Torah is also preserved, and that's why every Hebrew manuscript of the Torah is exactly the same, down to each letter. It's been the same text for centuries... The Biblical gospels, in my opinion, are not necessarily preserved because they were never inspired by God in the first place. They're just manmade books that some people believe detail the life of Jesus, and there's not even any historical evidence that these books were actually written by Jesus' disciples.
I agree with you as regards to the torah but when it come to the gospel that is were a critical examination will be require, my question will be what is the injil refer to in the quran?
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I agree with you as regards to the torah but when it come to the gospel that is were a critical examination will be require, my question will be what is the injil refer to in the quran?
The message given to Jesus by God. (At least that is what I was told in another thread)
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I agree with you as regards to the torah but when it come to the gospel that is were a critical examination will be require, my question will be what is the injil refer to in the quran?
If you compare the Christian gospel to other historical texts, you'll notice that it's nearly identical to the mythological passages of former gods, especially in Greece and Rome. The Biblical story of Jesus is no more than a retelling of the stories of Khrishna and Mithras...
The book that I've found to be closest to the true Evangel as mentioned in the Qur'aan is the Gospel of the Nazarenes, a book that all Nazarenes and Ebionites were very familiar with. In that book, it relates an account of Jesus actually receiving a book ("al injeel"?) from Moses and Elijah, and this book contains certain commandments that Jesus told his followers to observe...
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If you compare the Christian gospel to other historical texts, you'll notice that it's nearly identical to the mythological passages of former gods, especially in Greece and Rome. The Biblical story of Jesus is no more than a retelling of the stories of Khrishna and Mithras...
The book that I've found to be closest to the true Evangel as mentioned in the Qur'aan is the Gospel of the Nazarenes, a book that all Nazarenes and Ebionites were very familiar with. In that book, it relates an account of Jesus actually receiving a book ("al injeel"?) from Moses and Elijah, and this book contains certain commandments that Jesus told his followers to observe...
Even the gospel of the Nazerenes is just a book of biography as the four gospels of John, Mathew, Mark and Luke, and in fact the are identical except in few places.
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Even the gospel of the Nazerenes is just a book of biography as the four gospels of John, Mathew, Mark and Luke, and in fact the are identical except in few places.
That is because Matthew is a copy of Mark, Luke is just a letter written after reading Mark, and John is probably a fabrication by the early church to bring in a couple of things that they wanted in the bible but was not there.
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That is because Matthew is a copy of Mark, Luke is just a letter written after reading Mark, and John is probably a fabrication by the early church to bring in a couple of things that they wanted in the bible but was not there.
This didn't stop the Quran from going....
'Let the people of the Gospel judge with what God revealed therein' brickwall
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This didn't stop the Quran from going....
'Let the people of the Gospel judge with what God revealed therein' brickwall
There is still an important message in the gospels, that hasn't changed, it is just the silly details about Jesus that was messed with.
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That is because Matthew is a copy of Mark, Luke is just a letter written after reading Mark, and John is probably a fabrication by the early church to bring in a couple of things that they wanted in the bible but was not there.
you know the quran always advocate bringing proves, can you give any prove for your claims. And note if it is regarding the issue of similar narrations, Quran also has that in it, so will this invalidate the Quran or bring about the issue of copyright?
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you know the quran always advocate bringing proves, can you give any prove for your claims. And note if it is regarding the issue of similar narrations, Quran also has that in it, so will this invalidate the Quran or bring about the issue of copyright?
No of course it will not invalidate the Quran as the Quran does not include (as far as I know) any of the changes. In fact the Quran includes part of one on the gospels left out of the bible.
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No of course it will not invalidate the Quran as the Quran does not include (as far as I know) any of the changes. In fact the Quran includes part of one on the gospels left out of the bible.
You may find this interesting.
http//www.christianunitarian.org/book/index
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I have to ask a question here, what is the Injil? Is it the gospels?
The Injil (or Injeel) is the scripture that Jesus recieved. It is definitely not the NT. We dont know what it is. Perhaps in the future it will be found, GW.
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You may find this interesting.
http//www.christianunitarian.org/book/index
Thanks for the link, John. I read through it a bit. I just wanted to correct you Jesus was born in September - which is what most/many historians say and which is also in line with what the Quran says.
1922 So she (Mary) was pregnant with him (Jesus), and she went to deliver in a far place.
1923 Then the birth pains came to her, by the trunk of a palm tree. She said, "I wish I had died before this, and became totally forgotten!"
1924 But then he called to her from beneath her "Do not be sad, your Lord has made below you a stream."
1925 "Shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will cause ripe dates to fall upon you."
This could not have been happening in fall/September.