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    Meteora
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    Peace,
    Respectfully.

    I can see from the video that the woman in the middle was being dressed as a Muslim.
    I also think you should read Genesis to see who use to cover herself with the niqab and burqa.

    Peace.

    lol, correct.

    The nun and the ninja were the nun and the ninja. The nun was following Christian practices plagiarized in the hadith and the ninja was following extra-extreme hadith teachings. Whether or not they felt comfortable with it isn't the issue but the fact the two misguided women said "cover your hair" was in the Quran shows they're not only ignorant but following idols i.e. their ignorant and/or sexist imams. Whether this was their intention or not, God almighty knows.

    I don't blame them. I'm sure they're just confused and trying to please God in the way they think will, and actually, I think what they're doing does please God because it's not like God gave the command to NOT cover your hair or face and it's obvious they're doing it just for the God and not themselves (don't think they'd wear it if they were nonbelievers). However saying to cover these is from the god can be

    1. A confusion

    2. An intentional lie

    I think 98% of sunni's say it as a confusion (trying to say the truth but failing) while the other 2 are saying it as a lie (they are damned) those being the fags that made the hadith.

    And there's also no reason why God would say lower the gaze if you're not even showing your hair or your face. Lower the gaze is a command, not throw a garbage bag over yourself.

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      Alen
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      And there's also no reason why God would say lower the gaze if you're not even showing your hair or your face. Lower the gaze is a command, not throw a garbage bag over yourself.

      Peace,
      Respectfully.

      Well, those who dress themselves in a way, that only the face is visible, can look nice and friendly, right?
      I mean, to cover your hair is one thing, the cover your whole body is another.
      And we always have to first find some solid proof from The Quran.

      Peace.

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        afridi220
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        lol, correct.

        The nun and the ninja were the nun and the ninja. The nun was following Christian practices plagiarized in the hadith and the ninja was following extra-extreme hadith teachings. Whether or not they felt comfortable with it isn't the issue but the fact the two misguided women said "cover your hair" was in the Quran shows they're not only ignorant but following idols i.e. their ignorant and/or sexist imams. Whether this was their intention or not, God almighty knows.

        I don't blame them. I'm sure they're just confused and trying to please God in the way they think will, and actually, I think what they're doing does please God because it's not like God gave the command to NOT cover your hair or face and it's obvious they're doing it just for the God and not themselves (don't think they'd wear it if they were nonbelievers). However saying to cover these is from the god can be

        1. A confusion

        2. An intentional lie

        I think 98% of sunni's say it as a confusion (trying to say the truth but failing) while the other 2 are saying it as a lie (they are damned) those being the fags that made the hadith.

        And there's also no reason why God would say lower the gaze if you're not even showing your hair or your face. Lower the gaze is a command, not throw a garbage bag over yourself.

        1. A confusion

        2. An intentional lie

        No they are not confused or fused nor they lie but they are following what they are taught with their good intention.

        I?m will not blame them but i blame their senseless clergy men the true messengers of >D the temporary God on earth

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          UmAlawi
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          There isn't that story in the Qur'an, but yeah obviously those parts arouse sexual desire especially for the guys. D
          But you had said that since God made the hair, why cover it ... and since God made everything why cover it. D I was being goofy. laugh

          Peace Aynur and Rev John

          I found this - it's referring to Adam and Eve, I believe.

          (Asad)
          727 O children of ADAM! Do not allow Satan to seduce you in the same way as he caused your ancestors to be driven out of the garden he deprived them of their garment in order to make them aware of their nakedness. Verily, he and his tribe are lying in wait for you where you cannot perceive them! Verily, We have placed satanic forces near unto those who do not believe;

          Peace )

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            farida
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            So in other words, women should just cover their private parts and cleavage. Which I'm sure most women do anyway

            Not in your home Rev, see this http//harrietharman.blogspot.com/2008/05/harriet-harman-looking-good.html

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              But surely it is all apparent

              I'm not sure if you got the point and what it implies.

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                Rev_John
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                Not in your home Rev, see this http//harrietharman.blogspot.com/2008/05/harriet-harman-looking-good.html

                rotfl

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                  Meteora
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                  1. A confusion

                  2. An intentional lie

                  No they are not confused or fused nor they lie but they are following what they are taught with their good intention.

                  I?m will not blame them but i blame their senseless clergy men the true messengers of >D the temporary God on earth

                  I said a confusion, not the same thing as being confused. They're confusing obeying the messenger and obeying idiots.

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                    afridi220
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                    I said a confusion, not the same thing as being confused. They're confusing obeying the messenger and obeying idiots.

                    Ahh obeying messenger ok but obeying idiots nope

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                      farida
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                      Ahh obeying messenger ok but obeying idiots nope

                      Hey I thought you did not belong to my boat

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                        Meteora
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                        Obey Allah and the idiots is the sunni's motto. rotfl

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                          SarahY
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                          dude don't mock em. to their understanding they 'assume' they are obeying the messenger. until they think and question their practice they will know otherwise. people tend to take belief for granted.

                          Be nice, Peace.

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                            TheJoker
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                            Yeah, you are justifying the actions of those who mock "quran-upholders".

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                              Meteora
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                              Well, they mock us. The articles I'm refuting that I'm posting in the hadith discussion have all sorts of attacks and bashing aimed at Quran-aloners, and I don't even bash them as much as they do. In fact they threaten Quran-aloners with death which is beyond retarded if you ask me.

                              I know not all sunni's are like this (most are probably exempt) but the ones insisting on stupidity (and no, they're not even trying if they ignore some of God's revelations just for the sake of tradition) are and will be damned. 'Nuff said.

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                                SarahY
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                                Well 2 wrongs don't make a right. Good on ya for putting the article up and if they follow tradition due to their ignorance, that's their doings don't worry about them.

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                                  aynur
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                                  Peace Aynur and Rev John

                                  I found this - it's referring to Adam and Eve, I believe.

                                  (Asad)
                                  727 O children of ADAM! Do not allow Satan to seduce you in the same way as he caused your ancestors to be driven out of the garden he deprived them of their garment in order to make them aware of their nakedness. Verily, he and his tribe are lying in wait for you where you cannot perceive them! Verily, We have placed satanic forces near unto those who do not believe;

                                  Peace )

                                  Peace.
                                  Can someone explain what this means?
                                  I think my brain is mushy from fasting. D
                                  Plus I'm tired and should go to bed.

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                                    aynur
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                                    dude don't mock em. to their understanding they 'assume' they are obeying the messenger. until they think and question their practice they will know otherwise. people tend to take belief for granted.

                                    Be nice, Peace.

                                    I agree with Sarah.

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                                      aynur
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                                      I thought they were, on the whole pretty respectful of one another though quick to take personal offense. I didn't like that Sonia's defense is basically that the Muslim world need to look more friendly, appearance-wise, to the Western world.

                                      The woman wearing the hijab says that men too have their own compulsory dresscode and can't wear whatever they want but technically this is untrue because the way the Sunni ruling is, men CAN practically wear whatever they want unless they have an all-consuming urge to constantly walk around in Speedos. How can one compare head-to-toe covering with covering just from the navel to the knees?

                                      Also, did anyone catch the bit where the reporter says "I'm sure you're anxious about breaking your fast" and connected that to a bit in the clip where Sonia drinks from a cup? That made me LOL.

                                      Exactly. You can't compare navel-to-knee vs. full-body covering. The men have much more freedom, and are not going to overheat.
                                      Well Sonia could have had her period, that's why she wasn't fasting ... or, they put that in there to try to show she's "not really" Muslim....

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                                        SarahY
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                                        Exactly. You can't compare navel-to-knee vs. full-body covering. The men have much more freedom, and are not going to overheat.
                                        Well Sonia could have had her period, that's why she wasn't fasting ... or, they put that in there to try to show she's "not really" Muslim....

                                        the others had a glass in front of them too didn't they?

                                        anyway interesting vid.

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                                          Wakas
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                                          Re mocking

                                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596544.msg4764#msg4764

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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