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Lailat ul Qadr?

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    Samia
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    Peace,
    Respectfully.

    Night of the Power is special.

    The Power? confused
    Whose translation is this?

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      unknownuser
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      The Power? confused
      Whose translation is this?

      http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laylat_al-Qadr

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        Samia
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        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laylat_al-Qadr

        Thanks!
        And what's wrong with night of decree/measure?
        These are better translation.

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          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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          Thanks!
          And what's wrong with night of decree/measure?
          These are better translation.

          220 The lightning nearly snatches away their sight, whenever it lights the path, they walk in it, and when it becomes dark for them, they stand. Had God willed, He would have taken away their hearing and their sight. God is capable of doing everything.

          220 Yakadu albarqu yakhtafu absarahumkullama adaa lahum mashaw feehi wa-itha athlamaAAalayhim qamoo walaw shaa Allahu lathahababisamAAihim waabsarihim inna Allaha AAalakulli shay-in qadeerun

          114 "To God is your return, and He is capable of/has the power to doing everything."

          114 Ila Allahi marjiAAukum wahuwaAAala kulli shay-in qadeerun

          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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            unknownuser
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            Thanks!
            And what's wrong with night of decree/measure?
            These are better translation.

            try this

            knowledge is power! the night knowledge was revealed from the Lord of the worlds becomes the night of power.

            quran is knowledge... knowledge from God is super power!

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              palestina
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              where did the 27th come from then?

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                Samia
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                Allaha AAalakulli shay-in qadeerun

                kulli shay-in qadeerun

                The noun / verbal noun related to this meaning is "qudra /power " not "qadr/measure/decree". Each relates to a different verb form of the same root
                Form I yaqdir to be able/ have power
                Form II yugaddir to measure; decide
                Both verbs are used in the qur'aan.

                3639

                And for the moon We have determined / decreed for it phases till it became like an old shrivelled palm-leaf.

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                  Meteora
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                  ...so it is power? muscle

                  I made a fail (

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                    nerspi
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                    what's so special/important about this night anyway?

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                      Meteora
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                      God calls it better than...oh crap I'm about to pm Ayman because it says it's better than a 1000 shahr's! o What does shahr mean now?

                      And, traditionals due to hadith think praying on this night is as if you prayed a 1000 months straight. LOL.

                      I mean this could be the correct understanding but this is nowehere in the Quran.

                      It could simply be that God just likes that particular night.

                      Peace.

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                        nerspi
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                        ok i don't know what so special about it.

                        but i know what's not. definitely not what hadith say about it. c'mon now. considering how hadith portray god... as some control freak, who wants things to be done so and so and if not .... BAM, hell forever! and on the other hand this same thing they call allah is giving them loopholes, ways to avoid doing things he himself ordered... actually, COMANDED!, by doing something trivial that is somehow of same worth... p-lease... who they kiddin'

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                          Meteora
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                          Exactly, like marrying up to 4 to be just with orphans and freeing the slave! But no you can do it now if you can afford to and slavery under war is ok, especially enslaving women cuz you can have more seks. nope

                          LOL and more lol @ the traditional view that SHAVING THE BEARD is part of Satan's promise to "alter the creation of Allah" BUT CIRCUMCISING MALE AND FEMALE BABIES (i.e. amputating part of their god-given genitalia!) is not and instead it is sunnah!!! rotfl o

                          I wish I had my foreskin

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            I wish I had my foreskin

                            me too group

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                              Samia
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                              I would say that the "shahr" in this verse may mean declaration (a version of the original meaning). It's a special night by its own merit that it's better than a 1000 declarations ...
                              (and qadr, meaning measure, best reflects the value of this night)

                              691
                              And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure
                              (this is a good verse to show the meaning of "qadr" as "measure&quot.

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                                maxq
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                                I would say that the "shahr" in this verse may mean declaration (a version of the original meaning). It's a special night by its own merit that it's better than a 1000 declarations ...
                                (and qadr, meaning measure, best reflects the value of this night)

                                691
                                And they measure not the power of Allah its true measure
                                (this is a good verse to show the meaning of "qadr" as "measure&quot.

                                better to demonstrate through a derivative... miQDaaR amount/measure

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                                  nerspi
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                                  still don't get what's so special about this night...

                                  what, are things we do then any better then if wee do it day before, day after, any other day/night...?

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                                    Alen
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                                    The Power? confused
                                    Whose translation is this?

                                    Peace,
                                    Respectfully.

                                    I forgot, sorry but this morning from 0200 to fajr salah, i was praying at the mosque with sunnis and they were all crying. I mean, including the imam who had a mike and he even stopped to wipe the tears. I didn't understand but i think he was performing du'a for some poeple like those in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as for the ones in Palestine and Gaza.
                                    Everybody was crying, it was new to me.

                                    Peace.

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                                      Abdun_Nur
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                                      Salaam nerspi,

                                      its all based on Surah 97, but it's conventionally translated without using the complete rules of grammar, this is Surah 97 correctly translated,

                                      http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/112/144/

                                      people love religion and ritual, while they abandon reason and guidance.

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                                        afridi220
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                                        Peace,
                                        Respectfully.

                                        I forgot, sorry but this morning from 0200 to fajr salah, i was praying at the mosque with sunnis and they were all crying. I mean, including the imam who had a mike and he even stopped to wipe the tears. I didn't understand but i think he was performing du'a for some poeple like those in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as for the ones in Palestine and Gaza.
                                        Everybody was crying, it was new to me.

                                        Peace.

                                        ;DNothing new a very old drama played on 27th Ramadan to please God so he forgive their sin!

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                                          muawiya
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                                          Assalamu 'alaikum

                                          Regarding Laylat alqadri

                                          971 Inna anzalnahu fee laylati alqadri

                                          How do we know hu in the above passage means Quran ?
                                          Is there any reference?

                                          Wassalam
                                          Muawiya

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