THE QURAN CONFIRMS: TODAY'S BIBLE IS UNCHANGED
-
The Christian Bible canon may have also been preserved during the time of Muhammad, as have many of their ideologies. However, all of these sources have been refuted in the Qur'aan (i.e. virgin birth, divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins, etc.)...
Peace,
Ahmad
Peace Ahamed,
It is indisputable that The Quran confirms The Virgin Birth of Jesus. Here where we argued about
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16187.0
Moreover, Please quote from the Bible where it Talks about divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins.
Maybe we can discover error in the Translation.
Peace
-
To be honest...YES!
Okay, if you say so... )
-
It is indisputable that The Quran confirms The Virgin Birth of Jesus.
Is this a typo, or did you mean to say this? How does the Qur'aan "undisputably" confirm the virgin births? If anything, that thread clearly proves, from the Qur'aan, that the virgin birth concept is a myth, not a reality.
Moreover, Please quote from the Bible where it Talks about divinity of Jesus, Trinitarian godhead, atonement for sins.
I don't think they're translation errors, bro. Some of them may be, but others clearly mention modern Christian ideologies, which are refuted by the Qur'aan. For example
(1) Jesus' death and atonement for mankind's sins (1 Corinthians 153, 4)
(2) Jesus' divinity and personal authority (John 11-4; Philippians 26, 7)
(3) Trinitarian Godhead (1 John 57) -
-
(1) Jesus' death and atonement for mankind's sins (1 Corinthians 153, 4)
(2) Jesus' divinity and personal authority (John 11-4; Philippians 26, 7)
(3) Trinitarian Godhead (1 John 57)Peace,
I do not see these mentioned Books Herehttp//www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm
Can these Books be Man made Books, as the Hadith and the Talmud?
Peace
-
Peace Belal,
I do not see these mentioned Books Here
http//www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm
Can these Books be Man made Books, as the Hadith and the Talmud?
Yes, those books can definately be, and most likely are, manmade books. That's what the author of the article you mentioned regarded as the Injiyl... But yes, the website you're considering is only referencing the Jewish Tanakh ("old testament", which were originally written in Hebrew. The "new testament" books of the Bible were mostly written in Greek (some may have possibly been written in Aramaic, but it's debatable). Therefore, you probably wouldn't find the "new testament" books on that website...
Peace,
Ahmad
-
Peace Belal,
Yes, those books can definately be, and most likely are, manmade books. That's what the author of the article you mentioned regarded as the Injiyl... But yes, the website you're considering is only referencing the Jewish Tanakh ("old testament", which were originally written in Hebrew. The "new testament" books of the Bible were mostly written in Greek (some may have possibly been written in Aramaic, but it's debatable). Therefore, you probably wouldn't find the "new testament" books on that website...
Peace,
Ahmad
Peace Ahamed,
When I looked at the Aramic Version of John, I can see where they mistranslated 1-13
http//www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicNTtools/peshitta_interlinear.htm
Let me know if you think there are possible mistranslation.
Here what I believe it should be
13 who are born, not of blood, nor of the pleasure of the flesh, nor of the pleasure of man, but of God (a Creation of God).
If you compare the different Translations, you will note where they deffer.
(More translation can be found here http//www.aramaicpeshitta.com/ Younan Bible, Lamsa Bible, Murdock Bible, Etheridge Bible, Khabouris Codex)
Peace
-
I see what you're getting at, but it's an irrelevant argument. It doesn't really matter whether or not the Biblical gospels or the "new testament" has been preserved over the years, since none of it came from God; none of it was divinely inspired to the prophets, and none of it was sent down to the people. Therefore, it being preserved is about as relevant as a 6th century fiction novel being preserved - it is of no importance. Although it may contain a few quasi-authentic words of Jesus, it can hardly be called the Injiyl...
-
Salaam,
Actually, studying 22-4, as Alquran is the guide for Almuttaqiyn, and that Almuttaqiyn, among their characters/actions
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, and what was revealed before you.
This is a very serious matter.
Are we only to believe that 'what was revealed before us' somehow existed?
or are we to believe 'what was revealed before us' in the same way we believe in 'what has been revealed to us' (Alqur'aan)?
-
Salaam,
Actually, studying 22-4, as Alquran is the guide for Almuttaqiyn, and that Almuttaqiyn, among their characters/actions
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, and what was revealed before you.
This is a very serious matter.
Are we only to believe that 'what was revealed before us' somehow existed?
or are we to believe 'what was revealed before us' in the same way we believe in 'what has been revealed to us' (Alqur'aan)?
Peace,
The Words in 2-2 to 2-5 are as follow
Believing In what was revealed to You (Mohamed PBUH)
Believing in what were revealed Before youCan you note from the above, when comparing WORD BY WORD, that we have to treat the Books in an equivalent way; after all, These Books are the Words of our Creator...How can we ignore some and believe in some...are we hypocrites?
Peace
Peace
-
Peace,
The Words in 2-2 to 2-5 are as follow
Believing In what was revealed to You (Mohamed PBUH)
Believing in what were revealed Before youCan you note from the above, when comparing WORD BY WORD, that we have to treat the Books in an equivalent way; after all, These Books are the Words of our Creator...How can we ignore some and believe in some...are we hypocrites?
Peace
Peace
Thank you, yes yes yes that's exactly what i mean.
Next, if we are to treat the Books in an equivalent way, then i assume ALLAH made for us that all the previous Scriptures are just as intact as the Scripture that is revealead to us, mankind after the last Prophet (i.e. Alqur'aan).
In other way, (assuming again) when people are ready to accept all Scriptures as the Guide for them, all the intact Scriptures will be accessible to them. (ALLAH will not change the condition of a people until they change themselves)
I know i don't have any evidence, other than this
5674 So exalt the name of your Lord, the Most Great.
5675 Then I swear by the setting of the stars,
5676 And indeed, it is an oath - if you could know - great.
5677 Indeed, it is a Reading most-honorable
5678 In a Book well-protected/well-guarded/kept hidden/nestled
5679 None touch it except the purified
5680 a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.5678
"kitaAbun maknuwn"... is this supposed to be in the Heaven or is this supposed to be in this world, in/on Earth?
What use will be for mankind, if the Book is well-protected/well-guarded/kept hidden/nestled in the Heaven, instead of in/on Earth?
From 5679, we can safely assume that only those who were already purified/are keep purifying themselves will be able to touch it.
Last Do 5677-78 mean that this Alqur'aanun kariym is part of kitaAbun maknuwn?
if so, wouldn't that mean that all revelation ultimately form one single Book (kitaabun) which is maknuwn?
Peace