Chapter 94 - FA'NSAB portion/share/rise

[Roshan]

peace Roshan, all,

You may find the following page helpful, taken from PRL's homepage
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/Qwrmic.htm

You often have to take into account the specific form/derivative, when trying to ascertain meaning.

In this verse, it could mean "toil/labour/stand/establish/fix".

Peace

As always, PRL was a very good help.

I don't think toil/labour makes any sense due to the fact that God has talked about easing hardship prior to this and has gone on to say, 'and when you have finished'.

If it is toil, it is in more of a metaphorical way, with the context being towards God.

This is my opinion anyway.

Roshan

[Wakas]

peace,

The hardship being eased is not necessarily a physical one, e.g. if one is feeling down, if/when God relieves this burden from you, then continue on the path, exert effort, toil/labour, towards your Lord etc.

[Roshan]

peace,

The hardship being eased is not necessarily a physical one, e.g. if one is feeling down, if/when God relieves this burden from you, then continue on the path, exert effort, toil/labour, towards your Lord etc.

Peace

Yes, it is as you say, IMO. This is a beautiful verse to read when you do feel down.

Roshan

[noble]

Peace
From the context, I would interpret the word as

be productive (as in take the opportunity of a lull in hardship/a relaxed period to be prepared for what comes next)...

i.e. about planning...

Peace

Was looking at this chapter. For me it comes down to verse 7

Does anyone have a good meaning for 'fainsab'?

Nuun-saad-ba (the root of fainsab) on project root list

The only meaning I good get that would possibly make sense would be to raise/setup/establish in the context of God (and Rabb is mentioned in the next verse). However, checking the root in the Quran, it appears to mainly be used to mean share/portion.

Any ideas

Roshan

[Ayisha]

I know this is an old topic but I was just going to say something about this chapter and did a search first.

Have We not expanded thee thy breast?
And removed from thee thy burden
The which did gall thy back?
And raised high the esteem (in which) thou (art held)?
So, verily, with every difficulty, there is relief
Verily, with every difficulty there is relief.
Therefore, when thou art free (from thine immediate task), still labour hard,
And to thy Lord turn (all) thy attention.

This is the Open Burhan translation here which is similar to Ali I think, but they all are similar in that the breast was expanded and a burden removed which did 'gall' the back, this is what made me think on these 3 verses.

Anyone who has had gallstones will know the pain is in the back, directly opposite the breast bone and like a heavy weight of extreme pain and that to remove a gall bladder to relieve this pain is done by going into the chest area. removal of gall bladder and/or stones is the ONLY relief, appart from large doses of Pethadine which I dont think were available then

Just something to think about. ;D

[Raaajah]

This is the Open Burhan translation here which is similar to Ali I think, but they all are similar in that the breast was expanded and a burden removed which did 'gall' the back, this is what made me think on these 3 verses.

Anyone who has had gallstones will know the pain is in the back, directly opposite the breast bone and like a heavy weight of extreme pain and that to remove a gall bladder to relieve this pain is done by going into the chest area. removal of gall bladder and/or stones is the ONLY relief, appart from large doses of Pethadine which I dont think were available then

Just something to think about

So what is the conclusion?

Allah mentions in the Quran about gallstones that Muhammad had rotfl

[Mazhar]

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Did We not for you expand/kept content and tranquil the heart/chest of you
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and We have since laid off from you the burden of yours,
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which was heavily placed on your back/self;
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and We have since raised high for you the mention/remembrance/repute of you .

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For reason indeed along with the difficulty/trouble/harshness there is the convenience/solace;
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Certainly along with the difficulty/trouble/harshness/distress there is the convenience/solace.
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Therefore when you have accomplished thereby keep it prominent,
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and towards your Sustainer Lord thereby you keep attentive.

Surat-94

[san]

So what is the conclusion?

Allah mentions in the Quran about gallstones that Muhammad had rotfl

people are free to give opinions in this forum, eh?

look at other posters in this thread, they chose not to troll and instead add something to the thread.

[Ayisha]

and We have since laid off from you the burden of yours,
which was heavily placed on your back/self;

I disagree. There were many messengers that undertook delivering Gods message and your translation of this, which is unlike all the others, is saying he is now relieved of it, was this the last and final verse revealed?

[san]

Peace all,

Here's my simple, common everyday English translation of chapter 94

Haven't We opened up your chest,
and We lifted from you your burden,
that had broken your back?
And We raised up for you your dignity.

Then indeed, with the hardship, ease
Really, with the hardship, ease

Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
And to your Sustainer, then hope!

I chose to translate AnSab/InSab as "set upright", as in "setting up/erecting stones for a mark/sign". This is the most basic/most readily comprehensible meaning of this word, imo, which suits the context perfectly.

"... fa'nSab and "... fa'rGab "

the latter, which i translated as "hope", is actually closer to desire/wish/longing, i.e. a very deep feeling of longing in one's self.

Thus, the most basic pictures of "AnSab"/"set upright", e.g., the erect/standing "up" posture, the "up"lifted spirit or condition, which are so obviously analagous to the lifting up of one's burden and the raising of one's dignity, is further aligned, as a suggestion, with a very deep feeling of longing toward one's Sustainer.

Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
And to your Sustainer, then hope!

Then again, we're used to the term "milestone" which is more or less a marking/sign of progress and direction, i.e. where one is going and how far/close he is to where he is going to. Suppose the above meaning ("setting up" of stones for a mark/sign) is indeed the most accurate meaning for AnSab, then the "picture" of the end of chapter 94 could also be seen as, "when you are set free (or feel "free/freed&quot, then set marks/progress/goals/targets along the road/journey (i.e. life) toward your ultimate desire/wish that is your own Sustainer".

Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
And to your Sustainer, then hope (wish/desire)!

And this is a pretty straightforward observation, i think.

Peace

[Ayisha]

Peace all,

Here's my simple, common everyday English translation of chapter 94

Haven't We opened up your chest,
and We lifted from you your burden,
that had broken your back?
And We raised up for you your dignity.

Then indeed, with the hardship, ease
Really, with the hardship, ease

Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
And to your Sustainer, then hope!

I chose to translate AnSab/InSab as "set upright", as in "setting up/erecting stones for a mark/sign". This is the most basic/most readily comprehensible meaning of this word, imo, which suits the context perfectly.

"... fa'nSab and "... fa'rGab "

the latter, which i translated as "hope", is actually closer to desire/wish/longing, i.e. a very deep feeling of longing in one's self.

Thus, the most basic pictures of "AnSab"/"set upright", e.g., the erect/standing "up" posture, the "up"lifted spirit or condition, which are so obviously analagous to the lifting up of one's burden and the raising of one's dignity, is further aligned, as a suggestion, with a very deep feeling of longing toward one's Sustainer.

Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
And to your Sustainer, then hope!

Then again, we're used to the term "milestone" which is more or less a marking/sign of progress and direction, i.e. where one is going and how far/close he is to where he is going to. Suppose the above meaning ("setting up" of stones for a mark/sign) is indeed the most accurate meaning for AnSab, then the "picture" of the end of chapter 94 could also be seen as, "when you are set free (or feel "free/freed&quot, then set marks/progress/goals/targets along the road/journey (i.e. life) toward your ultimate desire/wish that is your own Sustainer".

Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
And to your Sustainer, then hope (wish/desire)!

And this is a pretty straightforward observation, i think.

Peace

During the pain given by gallstone one cannot be 'upright' in a physical sense and neither can they be after removal of the gallbladder until you are free or eased of the pain of recovering.

I am not saying this IS what its about, but it seemed to hit a right spot with me when I read it, having been through that pain myself which is like a heavy weight on the back and removed through the chest.

[san]

Of course, Ayisha, i can easily imagine many people who were heavily burdened with a condition at some point in their life, then eventually were set free. Ease that comes with hardship -- just about any person can experience this.

The principles/patterns are universal and so wide, that i think it is a shame for people to put this chapter into a tiny little boxed scenario.

Let people "have" Quran, please.

[Mazhar]

and We have since laid off from you the burden of yours,
which was heavily placed on your back/self;

I disagree. There were many messengers that undertook delivering Gods message and your translation of this, which is unlike all the others, is saying he is now relieved of it, was this the last and final verse revealed?

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Had We caused this Grand Qur'aan to descend upon a mountain
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you would have certainly seen it in a state of humbling and causing itself perforated for the fear of Allah.
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And such are the similitude We quote/strike/emerge/surface for the people so that they consciously incline to objectively reflect/contemplate/deeply and honestly ponder.

Surat 59

[Mazhar]

And majority never tries to get out out of their self assumed perceptions and read the Ayat in conjunction despite have been referred.

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You, the Messenger pronounce for everyone, "You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of Allah and You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of the Messenger "
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In response, if you people turned away without paying heed
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since/then upon him is only that burden which is assigned to him and upon you people is that burden of responsibility which is laden upon you people.

Surat An Noor-24

[Ayisha]

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Had We caused this Grand Qur'aan to descend upon a mountain
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you would have certainly seen it in a state of humbling and causing itself perforated for the fear of Allah.
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And such are the similitude We quote/strike/emerge/surface for the people so that they consciously incline to objectively reflect/contemplate/deeply and honestly ponder.

Surat 59

sorry not quite sure what you point is here

[Ayisha]

And majority never tries to get out out of their self assumed perceptions and read the Ayat in conjunction despite have been referred.

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You, the Messenger pronounce for everyone, "You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of Allah and You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of the Messenger "
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In response, if you people turned away without paying heed
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since/then upon him is only that burden which is assigned to him and upon you people is that burden of responsibility which is laden upon you people.

Surat An Noor-24

or here

[Raaajah]

san

people are free to give opinions in this forum, eh?

look at other posters in this thread, they chose not to troll and instead add something to the thread

what, eh?
If people are free to utter their opinion, it does not mean they should utter whatever nonsense regarding Allah's book.

[Ayisha]

san
what, eh?
If people are free to utter their opinion, it does not mean they should utter whatever nonsense regarding Allah's book.

patiently waiting your full explanation of chapter 94, I did ask you in another thread to explain verses 1-3 but again you ignored it so you can do it here.

[san]

san
what, eh?
If people are free to utter their opinion, it does not mean they should utter whatever nonsense regarding Allah's book.

So what is the conclusion?

Allah mentions in the Quran about gallstones that Muhammad had rotfl

[Raaajah]

Ayisha

patiently waiting your full explanation of chapter 94, I did ask you in another thread to explain verses 1-3 but again you ignored it so you can do it here.

What was your response to the Surah, when Mazhar explained it?

I guess as usual
Ayisha

I disagree

If you have ready response for me too, then there is no need, however if for discussion sake, I can put forwatrd my understanding.