How sex before Marriage is not haram (prohibited) according to the Quran
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Since it was started this topic has nothing to do with Quran or Islam. Some admin should lock this s***
...and Sonny's back! (I mean no offense by this)
I think what believing men and women would want would be fairly similiar - loyalty, friendship, sincerity, down to earth, non-arrogant, kind, reserved in a modest way etc now finding that person.... that's another thing - but will happen (if it's meant to happen) by the leave and guidance of Allah swt.
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But it is not as simple as "hey guys, here's a verse, done".
Yet surely it IS. It should be. Something has gone seriously wrong. The same way that billions can (not) read 316 and magically find prohibition of music therein.
The system in the quran does not permit CHAOS. Plain and simple.
What we see today, is CHAOS. People having sex with 300 partners in a life time. Have 6 or 7 or even 20 kids, who they do not even know of. STDs, girlfriends and boyfriends getting together, breaking up. It is an orgy of depravity in all but name, and time scale. The fact that these people are not in a room at once, does it make a difference? Just because instead of a mere few seconds, they might wait a few days, weeks or months before switching partners, does it really make a difference?
But equally blameworthy is sexual repression and misunderstanding, the kind that tells an imam that rape is okay because the woman did not wear her hijab.
Satan has overtaken the people from both sides, this is clear for all to see. Somewhere in the middle lies the straight path.
Peace IAMOP,
That's true, its not as simple as here's a verse and I think it means this so Bam, we're done. The Quran doesn't allow us to just read it and then we're finished. There's some sublety in there. The central Message of the Quran is simple but that does not mean that some discussion isn't necessary or allowable. The problem is when people go over the top and just discuss whether or not the Quran means this or that for the sake of it. This happens everywhere with all groups though.
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Salaam,
Everytime I view the Who's online board, I always see this thread being viewed by some guests.
This is crazy.
Regards,
Yuliana -
Well, sex is like the peak of material experience... and it is a strong and fundamental part of our biology... and since most people are overly focused on materials things (even the religious people), therefore humanity is obsessed by sex. People are obsessed and addicted to sex above and beyond a healthy and natural engagement in it.
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Well, sex is like the peak of material experience... and it is a strong and fundamental part of our biology... and since most people are overly focused on materials things (even the religious people), therefore humanity is obsessed by sex. People are obsessed and addicted to sex above and beyond a healthy and natural engagement in it.
People are obsessed and addicted to sex in this day and age because they lack Sakeenah (divine tranquility) and their lives are bereft of worship and devotion to Allah. They try to fill their empty souls with good feelings from excessive sex and lust. But in the end, like all addictions, they end up even more empty, lonely and depressed. Satan has seeped into their miserable lives and conquered their souls for Jahannam
In contrast, a person who lives his life by Imaan (faith in Allah) and devotes himself to prayer, worship, Dhikr, and study of the Quran and Hadith will have the Sakeenah brought down to him with the Angels. Such a person will not be prone to destructive worldly addictions, whether its sex, gambling, alcohol, drugs, parties, music, etc.
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Salaam,
Like studying hadith will lead to peace and tranquility.
God bless you
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study of the Quran and Hadith
Peace Brother,
Reading Quran along with Hadidth. Please make sure Quran and Quran Alone.
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What an interesting post i stumble upon...
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What an interesting post i stumble upon...
Good job, but why does it matter to people so much? I suggest they simply do whatever they want, and then they will learn perhaps, when it is too late.
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Good job, but why does it matter to people so much? I suggest they simply do whatever they want, and then they will learn perhaps, when it is too late.
Well you know like my psychology teacher said "males are designed to Spread the seed since our ancestor's ancestors time" so yeah it's normal for guys to think about this type of stuff
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Peace to everybody
Does anyone know why the Qur'an insists on corporal punishment for those who have sex outside marriage, but when it comes to murder, it says "forgiving" the murderer is better? It even says "don't show mercy to those who commit zina (having sex outside marriage), but it doesn't say "don't show mercy to murderers". Should we then conclude that, according to the Qur?an, having sex outside marriage is a bigger crime than murder?
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Salaam,
Everytime I view the Who's online board, I always see this thread being viewed by some guests.
This is crazy.
Regards,
YulianaThe word "sex" in the title is apparently too powerful for most people to ignore. I haven't read most of this discussion and it's one of those threads that interest me the least, but I guess I'm not a 'real' man. As you know, as a man you must be totally obsessed with sex or else there is something wrong with you..
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Peace to everybody
Does anyone know why the Qur'an insists on corporal punishment for those who have sex outside marriage, but when it comes to murder, it says "forgiving" the murderer is better? It even says "don't show mercy to those who commit zina (having sex outside marriage), but it doesn't say "don't show mercy to murderers". Should we then conclude that, according to the Qur?an, having sex outside marriage is a bigger crime than murder?
Yes, this is what one naturally wonders.
This sounds so typical of religions Sex is taboo, but murder and violence is fine. -
Yes, this is what one naturally wonders.
This sounds so typical of religions Sex is taboo, but murder and violence is fine.Thank you Zulf for the honest reply...
You surprised me, I expected the usual criticism; "the Qur'an doesn't say that, it actually says so and so", followed by endless debates about Arabic words and grammar etc.. in a desperate and frankly pathetic attempt to "correct" the Qur'an...
So I'm not the first person who has noticed this moral inconsistency? What is your opinion, why do you think the Qur'an wants us to forgive murderers, but to punish and be harsh to those having sex outside marriage? Also, the hand of a thief must be cut, but not the hand of a murderer? Given these two choices, I would much rather prefer to cut a murderer's hand rather than a thief's hand. Not that I support such barbaric punishments...
Peace
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talking about insist, people are so insistent in reading the first few ayas of sura 24 An-Nur ans so neglectful of readinng the following ayas that they still think that the aim of tho few first ayas is to punish sex,whereas if they read further and took interest the aimwould be clear that it is not about punishing sex but about preventing slandering and defaming of people, particularly women using sex as ameans to do it.
Nobody is told to seek out people who engage in ilicit sex, but told in no uncertain terms not to do it. Please the Qur'an is clear, do insist on reading all those ayas from 1 to 25 and see clearly what the aim of Qur'an is.
Salaam
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Thank you Zulf for the honest reply...
You surprised me, I expected the usual criticism; "the Qur'an doesn't say that, it actually says so and so", followed by endless debates about Arabic words and grammar etc.. in a desperate and frankly pathetic attempt to "correct" the Qur'an...
Hi,
RED This means that your understanbding of the quran is the correct one and everybody who differs from your understanding is trying to correct the quran.
So I'm not the first person who has noticed this moral inconsistency?
No you are not the first one, everybody can read the quran through the eyes of Bukhary & Co and point out a zillion immoralities, inconstenties, nonsense, etc.
Go to random anti quran site/forum and you will see that even people who can not even read a single character can list for you hunderds of immoralities, inconstenties, nonsense, etc. -
peace,
Should we then conclude that, according to the Qur?an, having sex outside marriage is a bigger crime than murder?
This article would suggest the above thinking is wrong
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-crime-punishment-expiation.htmlThe greatest punishment for a crime is of course execution. No execution punishment exists for sex outside marriage.
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Hi,
RED This means that your understanbding of the quran is the correct one and everybody who differs from your understanding is trying to correct the quran.
The Qur'an was best understood by those closest to the prophet because they were the receivers of those messages during 23 years. And those messages were directly related to their own lives and their own problems. It has very little to do with our own problems and our lives. We live in an entirely different age, culture and environment.
If after 1400 years we still don't know the "true message" of the Qur'an, then why did God send the book? How can we follow that which is so unclear and subject to endless interpretations?
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peace,
This article would suggest the above thinking is wrong
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/Quran-crime-punishment-expiation.htmlThe greatest punishment for a crime is of course execution. No execution punishment exists for sex outside marriage.
Peace Wakas,
True, but according to the Qur'an it's also better if we "forgive" the murderer. So why isn't it also better to forgive thieves and "fornicaters"? Are sex outside marriage and theft unforgivable, but murder is not as big a crime, and thus, forgivable?
