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Linguistic riddle solved, for those who want to learn

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    Student_of_Allah
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    Did you even bother reading the very first post of this thread ?

    Shalom Aleikhem,

    Incase you have not noticed, there is a stumbling block. Not having any clue about the words, no comments can be made about that post as a whole. An objection raised was regarding "regular translation". Thus my inquiry. But I do agree, its somewhat at a tangent.

    Peace
    ------------- Student of Allah

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      siwto
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      Peace all,

      "Did you even bother reading the very first post of this thread ?"
      Really i couldn't pick up any genuine matter there! But for me ALLAH is al ilah = THE DIVINITY, when ilah stands for any divinity that is not hence worth to be worshipped.

      The expression means " in fact The God is the only Divivinity (to be praised)"...

      Peace

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        Kaiokenred
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        Peace all,

        "Did you even bother reading the very first post of this thread ?"
        Really i couldn't pick up any genuine matter there! But for me ALLAH is al ilah = THE DIVINITY, when ilah stands for any divinity that is not hence worth to be worshipped.

        The expression means " in fact The God is the only Divivinity (to be praised)"...

        Peace

        "The God" sounds pretty lame. If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not.

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          siwto
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          Peace Kaiokenred;
          "If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not."!!
          How can you claim this when

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          He does confirm the He is "ilahun waahidun"
          The expression ALLLAH is a contraction between the de definite article and the word ilah that is the "ilah".

          Peace

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            Kaiokenred
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            Peace Kaiokenred;
            "If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not."!!
            How can you claim this when

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            He does confirm the He is "ilahun waahidun"
            The expression ALLLAH is a contraction between the de definite article and the word ilah that is the "ilah".

            Peace

            No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God

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              siwto
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              Peace Kaiokenred;
              my former post was dirty please have this one

              "If Allah was a god He would call Himself Ilah, but he's not."!!
              How can you claim this when
              1.He does confirm He is "ilahun waahidun"
              2.The expression ALLLAH is a contraction between "the" definite article and the word "ilah".
              3. Definitly, it is clear that within some infinite sets of ilahs, there is only one to be praise in order to be saved, "The Ilah" or Allah.

              Peace

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                siwto
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                Peace Kaiokenred;

                Are you missing something very important by sataing "No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God"?

                The contraction is not due to the linear proximity of the words Allathi la Ilah, but rather to the expressivity of the ilah itself you ar free to woership anything you choose, but the wright choice is when you choose one able of everything, the allmight, be you arab, english,...

                Pace

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                  Kaiokenred
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                  Peace Kaiokenred;

                  Are you missing something very important by sataing "No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God"?

                  The contraction is not due to the linear proximity of the words Allathi la Ilah, but rather to the expressivity of the ilah itself you ar free to woership anything you choose, but the wright choice is when you choose one able of everything, the allmight, be you arab, english,...

                  Pace

                  No it's not. Allah does not mean The Ilah (God) but who is not Ilah (God). Allah is the complete opposite of a god. A god was created with bullshit such as religion, thus the imagination of greedy/fearful people. A god is a supernatural being that controls reality from the outside, Allah manifests reality from the inside. Worship whatever you want, no matter what you worship, it's worthless and stupid act and in the Quran, translated by actual Classic Arabic without considering anything from hadith, we're told not to worship anyone.

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                    Bigmo
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                    No, Allah is a contraction between the words Allathi la Ilah, which means who is not God

                    Allathi la ilah ILLA HU

                    You missed except for Him.

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                      Kaiokenred
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                      Allathi la ilah ILLA HU

                      You missed except for Him.

                      The word Allah means there is no God. And that basically means there is no god at all. Not except for him, there is simply no God, there is ONLY Allah ( Not God )

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                        mmkhan
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                        Salaam,

                        How about 2133?

                        2133

                        2133 Or were you witnesses when death approached Yaa'qoob, when he said to his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims to Him."

                        May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                        mmKhan

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                          Kaiokenred
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                          Salaam,

                          How about 2133?

                          2133

                          2133 Or were you witnesses when death approached Yaa'qoob, when he said to his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims to Him."

                          May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
                          mmKhan

                          How about you closely examine Classic Arabic like Badar Kanwar does?

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                            mmkhan
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                            How about you closely examine Classic Arabic like Badar Kanwar does?

                            Dear brother,

                            I try to examine Arabic through AlQuraan itself unlike Badar.

                            Can you please translate 1698 for me by using your current understanding of the word "Allah"? And most importantly 2014 with your current understanding of word "Allah".

                            Thanks in advance.

                            mmKhan

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                              Sir_Comcision
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                              LOL, now there's a contention over the meaning of "Allah"? rotfl

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                                Kaiokenred
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                                Dear brother,

                                I try to examine Arabic through AlQuraan itself unlike Badar.

                                Can you please translate 1698 for me by using your current understanding of the word "Allah"? And most importantly 2014 with your current understanding of word "Allah".

                                Thanks in advance.

                                mmKhan

                                Sure you do, and Badar hasn't been online for 2-3 days now

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  LOL, now there's a contention over the meaning of "Allah"? rotfl

                                  Transliteration Waallatheena yuhajjoona fee Allahi min baAAdi ma istujeeba lahu hujjatuhum dahidatun AAinda rabbihim waAAalayhim ghadabun walahum AAathabun shadeedun

                                  http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/42/16/default.htm

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                                    Kaiokenred
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                                    Transliteration Waallatheena yuhajjoona fee Allahi min baAAdi ma istujeeba lahu hujjatuhum dahidatun AAinda rabbihim waAAalayhim ghadabun walahum AAathabun shadeedun

                                    http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/42/16/default.htm

                                    Nice proof. Maybe Sunnis should say that to Quranists because I mean, that verse says to not argue about what Allah is and just accept your view as the truth, and that means accept everything as it is, because things are exactly like they seem and the world is a paradise full of love and care without any greed or stupidity at all

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                                      Bigmo
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                                      The word Allah means there is no God. And that basically means there is no god at all. Not except for him, there is simply no God, there is ONLY Allah ( Not God )

                                      There is no God except the not God? Do you mean no God but the One who does not need worship? Or just not God?

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                                        siwto
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                                        Peace Kaiokenred;

                                        As you stated "The word Allah means there is no God" how do you translate the expreession "LAA ILAAHA";

                                        Brother Bigmo, likely our brother Kaiokenred is confusd?

                                        Peace.

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                                          Kaiokenred
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                                          There is no God except the not God? Do you mean no God but the One who does not need worship? Or just not God?

                                          There is no god at all, that's what I'm trying to say. Allah is not a god, the concept of Allah is the opposite of a god. The real meaning of a god is " one who is invoked ", That is as you see, extremely religious and can't possibly describe Allah, You do not invoke Allah, also a god is an outside force that controls reality, while Allah manifests all reality from the inside-out, you can confirm it if you want by using Quantum Mechanics

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