Wife beating in islam? The Quran strikes back
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Wakas I repeat because you have run away from answering my arguments when you have answered this in the same way, that I am not right, but refrained your self from rebuting my arguments you plain ignored them.
I am not interested inb eing your police and I do not have the time, so I am not looking for the threads where that has hapenned and it has been several.
But you also repppeat, everybody repeats. The forums are full of repetitions.On the other hand, the wording of the aya is so plain and clear that what has to be explained is how it does come that it is transformed into something else. THAT should be explained and not forgotten that if somebody chooses to make things signify other thing that their meaning, one must bring arguments for it.
And I repeat for a good reason not for you, not for those who systematically ignore things that do not suit their own state of thought, but for those who might eventually find the need to go beyond the usual comfortable preconceptions.
I am grateful that some peole chose to repeat things, so that if a did not catch something the first time I had more opportunities later on. I have learnt things that way.
Salaam
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I mean, it is not an obligations, it is your right like you scold your children when they making a mistake. What word you should pick for such condition?
I would agree if you would agree that women should also "scold" and beat up their husbands when they need correcting.
Have you really read the Qur'an?
Salaam
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I mean, it is not an obligations, it is your right like you scold your children when they making a mistake.
Scolding children is parent's right . . . !?! ???
What word you should pick for such condition?
I think it needs to be adjusted to the mistakes they make, and also, we need to look at the character of the kids who did it. Right now I don't have experience being a parent, so maybe I could not give proper input related how to educate children,
but I think "beating children" and/or "scolding children" are not the right ways to make the children honor their parents.
Even youre beating your child if he/she is harming her brother or her sister am I right?
I know that beating children is not effective way to educate them to be righteous.
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Beating your wife is not an obligations, it is your right, and you can decide to do it or not.
Which verse in the Quran says that it is a man's right to beat his wife? Do you have any Quranic evidence that supports your claim? Or is your rule based on your personal likes and dislikes instead of the book of God?
It seems that your rule is based on the mistranslation and misinterpretation of verse 434 in the Quran. Because in reality there is no verse in the Quran that supports wife beating.
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Ok fine I get it.
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I mean, it is not an obligations, it is your right like you scold your children when they making a mistake. What word you should pick for such condition?
So you are saying your wive is your child, and it is your right to scold her because she is a child and need to be corrected.
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Ok fine I get it. Beating your wife is wrong. giveup
Semoga Allah memudahkan anda dan istri anda untuk bisa menjaga kerukunan rumah tangga, saudara Farabi.
Supaya rumah tangga anda tenang, tidak ada pukul-pukulan atau pun omel-omelan. )
May Allah bless you and your family. Salm. D
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Semoga Allah memudahkan anda dan istri anda untuk bisa menjaga kerukunan rumah tangga, saudara Farabi.
Supaya rumah tangga anda tenang, tidak ada pukul-pukulan atau pun omel-omelan. )
May Allah bless you and your family. Salm.
You made me sound like I used to beat my wife. I did not married yet.
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Yes I said that, but since many people doesnot like it I guess, I will not saying it anymore. giveup
But why? Your wife is not your child. Do you consider yourself your wife's father?
Even most parents don't hit kids. There can be exceptions though.
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But why? Your wife is not your child. Do you consider yourself your wife's father?
Even most parents don't hit kids. There can be exceptions though.
I saw it from shlomo book, proverbs
Proverb 2313
13. Do not withhold discipline from a child; when you strike him with a rod, he will not die.http//www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16394
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I saw it from shlomo book, proverbshttp//www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16394
It is talking about parents and children which has nothing to do with the topic.
You said you consider your wife a child, and it is your right to correct her. I asked do you consider yourself your wife's father? Answer me this simple question.
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It is talking about parents and children which has nothing to do with the topic.
You said you consider your wife a child, and it is your right to correct her. I asked do you consider yourself your wife's father? Answer me this simple question.
I am a man. My instinct is different than you. When I talked about religion, I always think religion is the way to put your instinct on the right place. And I dont know why each time Im afraid my girlfriend about to leave me or I have a suspicions that she will leave me my anger was invoked. I used to think maybe religions want me to use this instinc only for educate her, not unleashing my lust, beating her for a scape goat. I dont know how to put it on the right words.
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I am a man. My instinct is different than you. When I talked about religion, I always think religion is the way to put your instinct on the right place. And I dont know why each time Im afraid my girlfriend about to leave me or I have a suspicions that she will leave me my anger was invoked. I used to think maybe religions want me to use this instinc only for educate her, not unleashing my lust, beating her for a scape goat. I dont know how to put it on the right words.
I don't know about that. I just asked do you consider yourself as your wife's father? It is yes or no.
Anyway, if you don't want to answer, it is fine. I hope your wife is safe though.
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I don't know about that. I just asked do you consider yourself as your wife's father? It is yes or no.
Anyway, if you don't want to answer, it is fine. I hope your wife is safe though.
May God bless you.No Im not. Im not considering myself as my wife father. And I dont have wife yet.
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peace,
People tend to discriminate muslims by saying beating his wife is an obligations. It is not. Beating your wife is not an obligations, it is your right, and you can decide to do it or not. That allowance is to defend Job who are swore gonna beat her wife. And for that swore even though Job is regret it, God still command him to do his swore by taking a grass and do it.
That story is based on non-Quran sources.
For an explanation of it as per Quran, I recommend point 14 here
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No Im not. Im not considering myself as my wife father. And I dont have wife yet.
I can go on and on with this, but let me just come straight to the point. Why do you consider her as a child then? You are not her father. She is not your child. A wife is an adult, not a child. Don't compare her to a child then. It doesn't make sense. Beating is wrong.
Other than that, it is your choice if you can understand this or not. I hope I didn't offend you. -
Wife beating or children beating has absolutely NO place in Islam. Those 'muslims' who does any of this need to be removed from Islam for real.
