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Wife beating in islam? The Quran strikes back

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  • WakasW Offline
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    Wakas
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    #290

    Re this post

    What do you mean by "CITE THEM". Do you mean refer them to the court? or tell someone about their misbehavior?. Your argument is that (which i understood from your article) how would authority know that there is a rift in relation between husband and wife. The only way is if someone tell them. Husband or wife or any other close family member would inform the court. Am i correct?

    Also, in your view "NUSHOOZ" mean cheating with husband?.

    Please re-read www.Quran434.com as your questions are answered there.

    To understand what "cite them" means simply read 434-35.

    435 connects to 434 with the Arabic "wa" / and, and in 435 the authority is clearly involved. Thus, the obvious question to ask is how did they end up getting involved? Who told them? Quran seems to have missed this step out...... or did it?

    The logical (and perhaps only) step after deadlock and before authority involvement is notifying the authority of the situation, hence the last step given to the husband is "cite them".
    The exact same thing happens in 581-4. A perfect match, as explained in the article.

    Re nushuz

    "uprising" (Arabic nushuz, root Nun-Shiin-Zay) is the literal meaning and in context means rising up (above relationship/marital limits)...
    ...if we take these factors into account, it suggests unseen "disloyalty/infidelity/ill-conduct/rebellion" in some way.

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      NK
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      #291

      Peace Wakas,

      Thanks for your reply. It makes perfect sense. I would like to write your article in URDU in a simple form as yours is in English and only helpful for those you can understand English language. Also, it is quite dense and I have read your article many times to grasp your opinion but still i asked a stupid question. Don't take me wrong, i love your article.

      I don't know if you can understand or read URDU but before putting on the different forms i would like to send you first article in Urdu so that you can read (it depends if you can read and speak Urdu) if i understood your opinion correctly. Is that possible if i have your email address? and of course i will mention your website. It is basically not translation of your article but writing in a simpler form as i understood after reading your article.

      I have written articles on different topics on Quran but they are all in Urdu. In Pakistan, people are not very educated and mass majority cant fully understand English, especially the one written in your article. That is the reason i would like to write it in a simpler form to spread this message to others, so that more people can benefit from it.

      Lastly, if i say "CITE THEM" in URDU it would be "In ki nishandahi karo" am i correct?

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        Mazhar
        wrote on last edited by
        #292

        Peace Wakas,

        Thanks for your reply. It makes perfect sense. I would like to write your article in URDU in a simple form as yours is in English and only helpful for those you can understand English language. Also, it is quite dense and I have read your article many times to grasp your opinion but still i asked a stupid question. Don't take me wrong, i love your article.

        I don't know if you can understand or read URDU but before putting on the different forms i would like to send you first article in Urdu so that you can read (it depends if you can read and speak Urdu) if i understood your opinion correctly. Is that possible if i have your email address? and of course i will mention your website. It is basically not translation of your article but writing in a simpler form as i understood after reading your article.

        I have written articles on different topics on Quran but they are all in Urdu. In Pakistan, people are not very educated and mass majority cant fully understand English, especially the one written in your article. That is the reason i would like to write it in a simpler form to spread this message to others, so that more people can benefit from it.

        Lastly, if i say "CITE THEM" in URDU it would be "In ki nishandahi karo" am i correct?

        Better to give a synopsis of what you have understood before putting it in Urdu. That will help Wakas and others to see what have you perceived from the article.

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          NK
          wrote on last edited by
          #293

          Mazhar,

          English is not my first language and i openly admit that i can't speak and write fluently. Even i have been living and working in England since 2004. I can write better in Urdu as compared to in English. Therefore, i requested that if i can write up in my own words and present it to Wakas. If he would be happy then i will publish it on Facebook and spread this message. Please understand my limitation in this matter. Could you translate CITE THEM in Urdu please if you don't mind?

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          • WakasW Offline
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            Wakas
            wrote on last edited by
            #294

            peace NK,

            Yes you can translate a summary in urdu. I cant understand urdu but I can show some people who can, to get their feedback etc. You can send me your summary via personal message via this forum. Click on my name on the left.

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              The_Sardar
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              #295

              Aqua's website (http//www.quranverse434.com/) is down. I can't get in it now. Can anyone contact brother/sister Aqua about this?

              Otherwise we can see it in Internet Archive https//web.archive.org/web/20190124211540/http//quranverse434.com/

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                aqua
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                #296

                Thanks for reporting this. The website should be back up in a few hours.

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                • The_SardarT Offline
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                  The_Sardar
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #297

                  Ah no worries dear brother.

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                    aqua
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #298

                    The website is back up

                    www.quranverse434.com

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                    • The_SardarT Offline
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                      The_Sardar
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                      #299

                      Ah excellent dear brother.

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                        Noon_waalqalami
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #300

                        The website is back up

                        www.quranverse434.com

                        excellent work!

                        peace!

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                          aqua
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                          #301

                          excellent work!

                          peace!

                          Thank you.

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