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It's no coincidence 19 is so important to Baha'is! It's related to code 19...

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    The_Khan
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    I'm aware of their involvement with Kaballah. I however, do not agree with the 'Occultism' - to me, Kaballah is just a sufi version of Judaism. Nothing else.

    I bid you a good day as well. )

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      RA786
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      As I have been looking at some bahi things online,

      I find it incredibly hard to believe that the supposed "great religion" forbids Adultery/Fornication by making the Rich pay a Tax and the Poor given Immunity.

      This seems almost Identical to the Current System in place today. It seems like it does not solve the Society Problem of Adultery but rather encourages it.

      also, someone braught up the Issue about no women Leaders, which I find not very cool.

      Did this Suprise you when you looked up Bahi faith?

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        The_Khan
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        It's a fine, not a tax. The main purpose of it, according to Abdul Baha, is to let the public know about the shameful act. The monetary value is irrelevant.

        Backbiting and gossip are strictly forbidden, hence, this fine seeks to bring the incident to public knowledge without these two shameful acts also taking place.

        In this day and age, 90 lashes is considered a violation of human rights, but it was a perfect punishment during prophet Muhammad's time, judging as per how barbaric society was back then. For example, did you know that unmarried adulterers in China were punished by being locked in a basket, and killed by being thrown into a river or pond?

        Similar to how that law was less harmful than other punishment methods, this law is considered by us as ideal for this dispensation. It beats western laws on adultery, which encourage it and promote the expansion of harmful STD's, teenage pregnancies, etc.

        Regarding women leaders, the Baha'i faith encourages the participation of women in all fields of development, including administration. In the tablets to the rulers of the world, Baha'u'llah praised Queen Victoria for being a strong leader who allotted human rights to her citizens. Abdul Baha has said that if more women would rule, the world would be at peace, and would have tremendous development.

        Women are allowed to be elected to all Baha'i institutions, except the 9-member Universal House of Justice. Abdul Baha has made it clear that the reason for this will be clear and evident in the future.

        Ie, once a Baha'i government is established in a given country, the National Spiritual Assembly is encouraged to elect a female ruler, as the Baha'i writings give importance to women in administration and education. For instance, if a family cannot afford to educate all of its children, it is necessary to educate the female children first, as women are the first educaters in a family.

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          RA786
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          Peace Khan,

          But I totally disagree,

          I think the 100 lashes serves a great deal even in todays society.
          Human right Volations? Human rights violations is a fallable declearation that is based off of the Ever-changing opinions of the Elite.

          TRUE human rights violations are described in the Quran. It is Not against Human rights to punish a muslim by lashing them 100 times.
          Actually, That's what the Muslim Sighned up for in the First place. You dont join a group until you understand their rules....and therefore any muslim who joined Islam, should know that the punishment is 100 lashes for adulters.

          So, because of Consent (being muslim) it is Not against Human Rights.

          It seems to me that Bahi faith is very Convienient.
          As an Indigent, it would be very easy for me to commit adultery, and as a Wealthy person, a fee would also be very easy.

          Its similar to how Coke-acola General Electric, IBM, and other Corporations pay Millions of Dollars in Fines for their Evil Actions against Humanity and the Enviornment, yet continue to do it, and continue to pay for it. So really as long as you have money, you can Pay for whatever you want.

          This is the capitalist mindset.

          No Offense Brother, But this Bahi faith seems more to me like a Politcal Movement.
          A religion that is univeral enough for All people of all faiths to come togeather and practice their religion while still allowing the other Elite powers to carry on with their agenda. A religion where instead of Changing Society to Fit Religion....Religion is Changed to Fit Society.

          So then, in other words...Society Dictates what laws to follow overtime and God has to just change for US....instead of Us chaning for him?
          astagfirullah.

          I would HATE to be in earth when it gets SUPER bad.... I wonder what New Bahi rules will be in place?
          Probabily get Leaner and Leaner?

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            The_Khan
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            You know, I never questioned the lashes law. It was, after all, a divine law.

            To me, society will progress to one based on love, and not of fear. It's called spiral dynamics, a psychological topic. This is my own personal interpretation.

            Hence, these laws will be irrelevant and rarely imposed, as society is bound to progress to one which prevents such acts from occurring, rather than punish them. The punishments will be imposed in rare cases when these acts actually do occur.

            Actually, if you keep committing the act over and over again, you will lose your voting rights, not to mention your standing in the community.

            The Baha'i faith also has a number of economic policies unique which will tackle all the setbacks of capitalism and socialism.

            To us society is changing because of the revelation. It is an expected outcome, and has already occured in the past. Ever looked into what Roman society was before Christianity spread, or Arab polytheistic society before Islam?

            Baha'u'llah revealed concepts such as equality of men and women, complete literacy and education, human rights, abolition of slavery, when these topics were not discussed in most parts of the west (except slavery, which was now practiced mainly in South America), let alone the middle east. In fact, the last country to abolish slavery was Mauritania in 1980, and slavery continues to persist in Sudan and Mali to this day, albeit in secret. Two million children are enslaved in the sex trade all over the world.

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              RA786
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              Praises of Queen Victoria huh?

              humm.... hmm

              Do you think Queen Victoria served the Oppressor or the Oppressed?
              Was she apart of the Elite? the NWO? did she continue to let a system own people through debt?

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                The_Khan
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                Meh, I don't believe in conspiracy theories. They're all rubbish. /

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                  seattletruth
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                  Meh, I don't believe in conspiracy theories. They're all rubbish. /

                  Of course they are. And Baha'is are the FIRST IN LINE supporting a World Government, a One World Power.

                  You officially support the NWO, and lobby at their confrences. I have read the Baha'i memos in the past supporting the UN even, along with the IMF provisions to enslave countries and lead them to a Global Government.

                  Baha'is are so naive to believe that if a government was given LITERALLY "all the power in the world", that they would use it to better humanity... But you know the saying, "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". The truth of the matter is that the global elite want to create a Technocracy... A world of lords and surfs, in which the surfs have no freedom, and are found mates by analyzing their genetics to create a perfect race of slaves in which the population is completely controlled through eugenics. You really think that eugenics died after the Nazis were destroyed?

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                    The_Khan
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                    Nomadic hunter gatherers -> Tribal nomads -> Settled tribes (villages), beginning of agriculture -> Alliance of tribes, building of city-states/minor kingdoms -> Feudal type societies (Persian satrapies being the earliest form) -> Unitary states -> Federations -> Inter-continental federations -> One world federation of nations -> ?

                    It's all part of evolution. An intelligent organism (which is man) can no longer survive with today's technology if it continues to be at war with itself. As Albert Einstein said - "I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones".

                    When it comes to the UNO, we're mainly involved in humanitarian work. We don't meddle with politics.

                    Regarding our electoral system, we do not have campaigning and any form of partisanism. Voters elect people into the spiritual assemblies based on their character, rather than the money they received from a 'certain' organisation.

                    Regarding currency, we do indeed support a single currency. However, the fines in the Kitab-i-Aqdas are based on a value of gold. So it's highly likely that the currency will be pegged to the gold standard with implementations to prevent hyperinflation, such as what happened in the Ming dynasty after the Yuan dynasty's fiat currency was abolished, or the mass inflation which followed when Thomas Jefferson refused to renew the second bank of America's license.

                    I don't want to get into details, but I have spent nearly two years reviewing various conspiracy theories (from David Icke to Noreagaa films), and I do believe I have the right to call them rubbish.

                    Good day.

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                      taliboo
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                      Hi Friends,

                      As for the Baha'i faith. It has been divided into many small sects. Although Baha'i faith claims to have 6 million on so adherents in actuality it has very little followers. And in this small CULT (Bahaism) there are around 17 sects all calling itself to be true Baha'i Religion. There are many who does not follow the Haifa Based (all male, infallible) Universal House of (In)justice and follow some guardians. Some are against the "Administrative System" of the cult that operates like a "MULTINATIONAL COMPANY". Some does not like the RUHI BOOKS. Yes, this is fact and internet is full of such stories.

                      So when this so called New religion cannot unite its own adherents how is it going to bring the world peace? When they are told to boycott (Shun) the critics / reformers (COVENANT BREAKERS) and "COVENANT BREAKERS" (Those who do not follow the Administrative System) and creating problems for the HAIFA BASED BAHAISM and they cannot sort out their own differences, how they are going to unite the human kind.

                      Friends can see this video presentation here
                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYnjWvjHf1o

                      The claims of all the sects are very valid. If anybody is really interested in studying Bahaism, please do study the claims of every SECT in detail, it is very important.

                      This site can also be accessed for detailed study

                      http//www.sectsofbahais.com

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