did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

nsws1988

Salaam,

I love it that to qualify as a Muslim, one has to testify that there is no god but God AND that Muhammad is His messenger. The first part I wholly agree. But I cannot imagine Muhammad would say, "... and Muhammad is His messenger." nor can I image that Muhammad would say the "shalawat Nabi" when he prayed. I also cannot imagine that the prophets before Muhammad would say the second part of shahada (Well obviously). Hmmm, maybe the prophets before Muhammad was born weren't muslims? That is off course, using the criterion the traditional Muslims use .

Salaam.

We're told that prophet Abraham is muslim (367) - I wonder if he said the second part of the shahada

BornAgain

We're told that prophet Abraham is muslim (367) - I wonder if he said the second part of the shahada

And we're told that Abraham told his offsprings to embrace Islam all their lives (2132). I wonder if they said the second part of shahada? Or if they performed the "sunnah of Muhammad".

Mazhar

Salaam,

I love it that to qualify as a Muslim, one has to testify that there is no god but God AND that Muhammad is His messenger. The first part I wholly agree. But I cannot imagine Muhammad would say, "... and Muhammad is His messenger." nor can I image that Muhammad would say the "shalawat Nabi" when he prayed. I also cannot imagine that the prophets before Muhammad would say the second part of shahada (Well obviously). Hmmm, maybe the prophets before Muhammad was born weren't muslims? That is off course, using the criterion the traditional Muslims use .

Salaam.

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You, the Messenger pronounce;
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"Listen O you the Mankind;

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I am the Messenger of Allah towards you people all collectively;

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unknownuser

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You, the Messenger pronounce;
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"Listen O you the Mankind;

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I am the Messenger of Allah towards you people all collectively;

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was he talking to the whole mankind or to his people who could possibly understand him whatever he was saying? hmm

Mazhar

He was sent to convey to everyone who is living

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so that he may warn/revive from slumber/admonish the one who is living/alive

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He cannot make the "dead" listen him,

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but/and you the Messenger cannot make those hear who are in the graves ,

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Thereformer1

Salaam,
I love it that to qualify as a Muslim, one has to testify that there is no god but God AND that Muhammad is His messenger. The first part I wholly agree. But I cannot imagine Muhammad would say, "... and Muhammad is His messenger." nor can I image that Muhammad would say the "shalawat Nabi" when he prayed. I also cannot imagine that the prophets before Muhammad would say the second part of shahada (Well obviously). Hmmm, maybe the prophets before Muhammad was born weren't muslims? That is off course, using the criterion the traditional Muslims use .
Salaam.

well, the prophet has testified to himself that he is the messenger of God, if you have any problem with that, you're not Muslim and Muslims are away from your evil spirit. Yes the prophet said that he is the messenger of God and he said everything about himself , that's what you can't stand or better your soul can't stand, God has made the name of the prophet side by side to his name, you have a problem with that go do like this brickwall .

we are not talking about before neither about today, the imoprtant thing is that we born Muslim.

unknownuser

He was sent to convey to everyone who is living

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so that he may warn/revive from slumber/admonish the one who is living/alive

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He cannot make the "dead" listen him,

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but/and you the Messenger cannot make those hear who are in the graves ,

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convey to every one living among his people or all over the world? did he ever visited e.g india to convey the messsage? hmm

Thereformer1

Really? I didn't know it was genetic.

I've said before that really you don't know nothing, better for you just readddddddddddd and make people suggest.

Thereformer1

convey to every one living among his people or all over the world? did he ever visited e.g india to convey the messsage? hmm

Rasul Hamsa don't bother yourself with Mazhar, he can't even understand the verses and they like to decorate it instead of understand it.

by the way he takes the verses from free mind translations which wrong.

Thereformer1

convey to every one living among his people or all over the world? did he ever visited e.g india to convey the messsage? hmm

RasulHamsa don't bother yourself with Mazhar, he likes to decorate verses instead of understand them in the first place.

andby the way the verses that he gave you are from free-mind translation, which is usually wrong translation.

unknownuser

Rasul Hamsa don't bother yourself with Mazhar, he can't even understand the verses and they like to decor it instead of understand it.

by the way he takes te verses from free mind translations which wrong.

ok brother, thanks for the advice.

Thereformer1

And we're told that Abraham told his offsprings to embrace Islam all their lives (2132). I wonder if they said the second part of shahada? Or if they performed the "sunnah of Muhammad".

this was before the coming of the prophet so they are released from it but what you don't know they were practicing the Sunnah of Abraham which typically the same as Sunnah of the prophet peace be upon him.

Mazhar

convey to every one living among his people or all over the world? did he ever visited e.g india to convey the messsage? hmm

Have you received the Grand Qur'aan? If having recived the Qur'aan yet one thinks he is not being admonished by the Messenger through Qur'aan, and does not listen his words then believe me that one is already dead.

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And this Qur'aan has been communicated to me so that I admonish/awaken you the living people with this and to admonish/awaken the one whom this Qur'aan reached". ;

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And if one thinks that he is neither included amongst "An Naas" nor is he included in "Kum", as stated In Qur'aan, then amongst whom he places himself?

Mazhar

http//andby the way the verses that he gave you are from free-mind translation, which is usually wrong translation.

Match a translation of a single verse so far quoted with the translation of Free Mind, if you are truthful in what you say merely with mouth?

And if you are truly a born Arab, please point out omission in the translation posted of the words of Qur'aan!!!

unknownuser

Have you received the Grand Qur'aan? If having recived the Qur'aan yet one thinks he is not being admonished by the Messenger through Qur'aan, and does not listen his words then believe me that one is already dead.

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And this Qur'aan has been communicated to me so that I admonish/awaken you the living people with this and to admonish/awaken the one whom this Qur'aan reached". ;

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And if one thinks that he is neither included amongst "An Naas" nor is he included in "Kum", as stated In Qur'aan, then amongst whom he places himself?

he is the warner for each and every person among his nation whom quran reached or warner to all over the world and hence the question that did he ever visit e.g india to covey his message in a plain easy to understand local language?

Mazhar

he is the warner for each and every person among his nation whom quran reached or warner to all over the world and hence the question that did he ever visit e.g india to covey his message in a plain easy to understand local language?

Now Allah is telling this to him
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And We have not sent you, except as guarantor/giver of glad tidings and awakener/admonisher for the whole of living humanity
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but most of the people they do not accept it/intend to recognize this fact.

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unknownuser

Now Allah is telling this to him
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And We have not sent you, except as guarantor/giver of glad tidings and awakener/admonisher for the whole of living humanity
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but most of the people they do not accept it/intend to recognize this fact.

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Mazhar, brother, we all know he was sent to naas, people, human beings, but translating that "whole of humanity" is what I'm trying to understand and I'm not sure about your or anyone else's translation.

Leyna

Good morning

I've said the truth that I'm better than him. is that arrogance ? .

being better than someone, means that he should listen to you not bring silly ideas where he will look like a fool man.

I said I'm better than him and I meant by it that I know things more than him.

Interesting definition of "being better". http//www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/n035.gif

I'm sad because nothing in this post is yours ( copy/coll? ).

And your point is?

aynur

God has made the name of the prophet side by side to his name, you have a problem with that go do like this brickwall .

What? Do I understand you right? Are you saying that Prophet Muhammad (saw) is on the same level as God?
Hopefully I misunderstand you....

Mazhar

Mazhar, brother, we all know he was sent to naas, people, human beings, but translating that "whole of humanity" is what I'm trying to understand and I'm not sure about your or anyone else's translation.

The underlined words point out whole of An-naas, so whole of people means humanity as a whole. Pl read this also

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The Omnipresent, Perpetual, the Absolute is the One Who sent the Criterion upon His sincere servant so that he may become the Revivalist/Warner/ Awakener for the Worlds.

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And had it been our Will, We could have appointed a Warner in each and every town.

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