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Quranists
Their approach is inspired from " " who they also attacked the sunnah of Musa and they also called people to leave the "" of Musa(sunnah Musa) and just to follow the laws in "" but they have been lost their battles of rejecting the " " at the time of " " when he studied very well the relation between "" (sunnah of Musa) with the "" ( the book of Moses from God) and their studies were by translating the " " in Arabic and added to both of them the rules of arabic language from comparision and metaphorical sentences were making confusing in the book of Moses.
the only difference between those jewish readers and Quranists is in the Old testament of the "" for Jews and the Holy Quran to the Quranists. And that they are just a copy of the jews version let alone that the Task Quranists arisen in very suspicious circumstances and to undermine the Sunni Islam from the inside, because Quranists demonstrating acceptance of the Quran and Islamic prayer speechless, and in that obscure the ignorant, because say prayers alone does not make someone a Muslim if that person did not commit results implications of say prayers, say prayers, because that alone does not make a Muslim spokesman unless the spokesman, as required by Faith to accept the Quran and Sunnah completely acceptable, if not contrary to evident tenet of religion (for example a confirmed Sunnah), because it is contrary to evident tenet of religion ( such as the number of rak'ahs noon prayer, for example, which is not contained in the Quran) the consensus of scientists infidel of the Sunnis and the community, uttering a brief prayer, whether or not utter them.
This is not a contradiction, because religion is taken all, or leave whole, and may take some of the other part contained! This is not in Islam, but in Judaism, Christianity and other religions.
Finally it was pointed out that Quranists secularists and atheists of the Arabs and their bad people has called Ahl al-Sunnah and the Community "" bel-Mohammadeyin, a label launched by Muslims who insist on the proportion of Islam to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, as attributing a "Christian" to "Christ" or "Christian" to "Jesus of Nazareth" (the proportion of the city of Nazareth), and the attribute as "Jewish" to "Jewish" one of the tribes of the children of Israel and the attribute as "Buddhism" to "Buddha" and so forth. The name "Mohammedans" label with a very negative charge indicative holed behind many enemies of Islam in general and the Sunnah, in particular, to that they have been careful because Islam is the religion of God not Muhammed " "
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So if we're like the Jews who left the sunnah of Musa, would that make you like Orthodox Jews?
Actually, most of your laws came from the Old Testament, so it does fit!
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So if we're like the Jews who left the sunnah of Musa, would that make you like Orthodox Jews?
I believe in Quran and Sunnah as well which they have not been distorted, both of them are necessary in Islam . so that will not make me like Orthodox Jews who they are distorted the book of Allah and the sunnah of Musa , like you do guys (you translated Quran by your own desires and you rejected sunnah) .
Actually, most of your laws came from the Old Testament, so it does fit!
No, our laws came from father to father who they take it from the friends of the prophet who they take it directly from the prophet peace be upon him himself.
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Salam.
Dear Thereformer1,
I think maybe you should study the Old Testament a little bit. Knowledge is power, isn't it?
Wa Alaykom Asalam,
Yes, you're right knowledge is power; but about the Old testament I don't need to study them because I can debate with someone who study them by Qur'an and by the prophet's sayings.
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Aha reminds me of certain people who also took laws passed down from their fathers
2152-54
what are you talking about? our laws are thoroughly checked, carefully examined and hence authentic, not just the tales of ancients and mere names! moreover all of our laws are derived from the quran! can you cite any example that states otherwise?
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I don?t call sunnis ?bel-Mohammadeyin?
How is it that everything seems related to jews? How is it a Jewish inspiration?
Considering you know the ?sunnah? so well why don?t you give us a book of the confirmed sunnah, you know the sunnah muakida. Plus the footnotes of the scholars and how they came to such conclusions.
Wasn?t Mohammed the walking quran? Take it (religion) all or leave it?? well surely that?s what people are doing or trying to do. I don?t recall any evidence of the prophet instructing people to ?write? or ?preserve? HIS sunnah. it?s interesting how Shafi was the first to say the sunnah was a dual revelation with Quran, yet all accept it's fallibility so it's like how can it be dual? how could it measure? why divine it? Mind you he was the one to affix sunnah only to prophet Mohammed. So go figure!
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what are you talking about? our laws are thoroughly checked, carefully examined and hence authentic, not just the tales of ancients and mere names! moreover all of our laws are derived from the quran! can you cite any example that states otherwise?
I'm referring to certain laws of sunnism.
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I'm referring to certain laws of sunnism.
There is no such thing as sunnism. All the laws are based on quran. thanks
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Yes there is. It's a sect.
then tell us who is the founder of this sect?
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Aha reminds me of certain people who also took laws passed down from their fathers
2152-54
And when it is said unto them Follow that which Allah hath revealed, they say We follow that wherein we found our fathers. What! Even though their fathers were wholly unintelligent and had no guidance?
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Reminds me of that verse as well nsws 1988 . Oh wait, why do I have the feeling that I'll be criticised and that verses will be rejected because off course, there this "shading" that we don't understand ;D
By the way, I love it when people refuse to read other scriptures. How do they know that their belief is the 'right' one? Is it because they are taught that their belief is the right one and the rest goes to hell? Oh well, I wonder if they ever, I mean ever, stop to think if they can be wrong at all.
Salaam.
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By the way, I love it when people refuse to read other scriptures. How do they know that their belief is the 'right' one? Is it because they are taught that their belief is the right one and the rest goes to hell? Oh well, I wonder if they ever, I mean ever, stop to think if they can be wrong at all.
Salaam.
when we have the latest version of revelations, the quran and hadith, then why would you insist to read other scripture? unless you are just jealous of the new version!
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Ask them not me brickwall
because you claim so you should tell!
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I don?t call sunnis ?bel-Mohammadeyin?
You didn't but some guys(members) here did
How is it that everything seems related to jews?
because the Jews are always the bad example.
How is it a Jewish inspiration?
I didn't understand this question.
Considering you know the ?sunnah? so well why don?t you give us a book of the confirmed sunnah, you know the sunnah muakida. Plus the footnotes of the scholars and how they came to such conclusions.
Because of such a deep studies, they came to this conclusion.
Wasn?t Mohammed the walking quran? Take it (religion) all or leave it?? well surely that?s what people are doing or trying to do. I don?t recall any evidence of the prophet instructing people to ?write? or ?preserve? HIS sunnah. it?s interesting how Shafi was the first to say the sunnah was a dual revelation with Quran, yet all accept it's fallibility so it's like how can it be dual? how could it measure? why divine it? Mind you he was the one to affix sunnah only to prophet Mohammed. So go figure!
I was thinking that I have already made thing clear for you but I was totally wrong assuming that, what you don't know is that the sunnah of the prophet has been written at the time of his existence. and the friends of the prophet have spread in the world teaching people the sunnah and telling them his sayings, people because they were not like the friends of the prophet who they have reserve sunnah in their heart , so at the time of Omar Bno Abdel Al-Aziz when he ordered to write the sunnah of the prophet from the heart into the lines. so go figure.
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Reminds me of that verse as well nsws 1988 . Oh wait, why do I have the feeling that I'll be criticised and that verses will be rejected because off course, there this "shading" that we don't understand ;D
your reply reminds me of that verse " "
By the way, I love it when people refuse to read other scriptures. How do they know that their belief is the 'right' one? Is it because they are taught that their belief is the right one and the rest goes to hell? Oh well, I wonder if they ever, I mean ever, stop to think if they can be wrong at all.
Salaam.So , Islam as a religion might be wrong ? is that what you mean?