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Salamun alaikum,
I'm fed up of your sarcastic approach to people here, your arrogance and approach is not becoming of a human let alone a muslim. I'm glad that you know the right way to talk to people. For this reason, I will try to keep my sentences short so that you understand.
In the earlier post it's not what was meant about questioning Islam - it's by leaving room for OUR (i.e. you and me) error.
The Truth will always prevail.
It will withstand the onslaught of any and all questioning and does not need us (this includes you reformer, even though you think not) fallible people.
Also, remember simplicity and elegance is all around the universe.
Complexity arises when we do not truly understand a thing and try to fit our current understandings around that Truth.
Hence the complexities of the hadith - you have to study for 40+ years (which no-one has done - so no-one knows, unless of course it's predicted!) in order to have the qualifications to verify the veracity of the information presented.
YET, Allah Almighty says that the Quran is for ALL mankind and He, in His Infinite Wisdom sent Muhammad (S) as a Mercy to ALL.
So this implies that if he is for all, he has to be accessible to all.
The learned people are there for us to approach if we have questions.
You have people on one side and BOOKS on the other.
The people part is important, because a book is just information, a person SHOULD have the wisdom to wield that knowledge and dispense it appropriately.
The Quran has two types of verse
- The clear and LAW giving
- Th oft-repeated and allegorical
The clear and LAW giving - are just that - the DO NOT NEED further clarification. FROM ANY SOURCE.
The oft-repeated and allegorical - this is where your people come in - this is where the 'shadings' come in. This is where if you spend time arguing about these, you will forget the LAW and waste your energies.
So, stop your silly tirade of holier-than-thou and get to the point, without your name-calling and sarcasm.
Peace be with you and may you be guided in the right way and may that be true for all of us.
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Salamun alaikum,
I'm fed up of your sarcastic approach to people here, your arrogance and approach is not becoming of a human let alone a muslim. I'm glad that you know the right way to talk to people. For this reason, I will try to keep my sentences short so that you understand.
whatever
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Salamun alaikum,
To be a reformer, you must reform yourself.
Those in glass houses do not throw stones.
Peace
dI chose refomer because I reform electrical equipements rotfl
I'll not build my house from glass, so thanks for the advice.
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finally you said something I agree with rotfl rotfl rotfl
what's your point ?
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rotfl rotfl bravo laugh
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Hi RasulHamsa
when we have the latest version of revelations, the quran and hadith, then why would you insist to read other scripture?
For inspiration, for example. Most scriptures say the same basic things, but due to their respective cultural backgrounds in different languages -- literally and metaphorically.
I like reading various things from various sources. peace
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Hi RasulHamsa
For inspiration, for example. Most scriptures say the same basic things, but due to their respective cultural backgrounds in different languages -- literally and metaphorically.
I like reading various things from various sources. peaceLeyna you know that Salah Eddine Al Ayoubi have wrote the book of Moses and he added the metaphor and the ruls of the arabic language into the hebrew scriptures. so most of Jewish must thank him because their language is strong now because of Arabic language. and by the way you must not read th scriptures because Quran came to banned readin them and it is your choice, do whatver you want.
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where does Quran say it bans reading the previous scriptures please?
apparently nowhere, but as the mufassir of the quran is prophet himself so he banned it! now either you obey him or you dont! choice is yours as always
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apparently nowhere, but as the mufassir of the quran is prophet himself so he banned it! now either you obey him or you dont! choice is yours as always )
Now why would a prophet ban what Allah says this about
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YUSUFALI It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).The Book is Quran, it confirms the Law given to Moses and the Gospel of Jesus. Allah does not ban reading these previous messages, He actually tells you they are also from Him and PART of the message from Him.
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YUSUFALI It was We who revealed the law (to Moses) therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.005.045....................And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.
005.046...................... If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel
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YUSUFALI If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course but many of them follow a course that is evil.009.111
YUSUFALI Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise) they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded that is the achievement supreme.003.060
YUSUFALI The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.I will obey Him and His guidence in in His Book, but thanks for giving me a choice
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Now why would a prophet ban what Allah says this about
using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.
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using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.
This sentence reminds me why I like your approach bro. Tongue-in-cheek.
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using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.
look my brother, this is my problem with these guys here, they don't ask questions about Akida, they like to ask questions about Nakidoha .
they don't know this verse
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where does Quran say it bans reading the previous scriptures please?
well, you should not read the other scriptures, accept it like that or do whatever you want.