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Women's Singing and Qur'an Recitation in Public

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    unknownuser
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    George Cloony, Mel Gibson, Sean Connery, Amr Diab yay

    I like Amr Diab... habibiya noor el ein ya sakin khayaaliiiiiiiii ;D

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      Ayisha
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      I like Amr Diab... habibiya noor el ein ya sakin khayaaliiiiiiiii ;D

      Ahh the memories that one was the first I ever heard of his ;D

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        seattletruth
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        Look at Smeyye Eddeb. She is a world famous young woman (Egyptian) who does tajweed. Just search for her on youtube and you will find countless videos.

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQX2YjcSpRY

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iruw9hbM90

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmL21g0mgQI

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          SarahY
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          Look at S?meyye Eddeb. She is a world famous young woman (Egyptian) who does tajweed. Just search for her on youtube and you will find countless videos.

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQX2YjcSpRY

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iruw9hbM90

          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmL21g0mgQI

          Nice, but she's a child or considered child. i wonder if she would get support to recite quran when she's older. I once had a dream of reciting quran in tajweed but my voice isn't strong enough for it.

          Thanks for sharing

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            Wootah
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            We all have to stand strong and not let the history (in all cultures) of silencing women repeat itself. Singing and music are too joyful to be silenced. They are gifts from God.

            I simply refute that a person has to dress or act or be silent in certain ways in order to help others control their sexual urges. If you cannot control yourself then remove and cover yourself up - don't ask me to.

            Every time we try to enforce and legislate morality it goes wrong.

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              Leyna
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              peace

              if it's the verse Mazhar is talking about then you have it wrong

              I agree.

              This fatwa doesn't give any concrete reasoning or proof, just the scholar's opinion. And he obviously has a very dirty mindset if he believes that a woman reciting the Qur'an will lead to fitnah.

              nope

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                Thereformer1
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                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/017.%20Al%20Israa/17.64.gif
                And you trip/fascinatingly move, whomever from them you have influenced, with your sound
                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/017.%20Al%20Israa/017.E%20Al%20Israa.htm

                the verse means make everything haram for them (for the humankind) something normal where they will make up excuses to say that it is good and it is a joyful like singing for example and it's the right word here to describe .

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                  Leyna
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                  Faraz Rabbani, the scholar who issued the fatwa, is one of the sheikhs at SunniPath. He also says that women's "prayer in the depths of her house has more reward than for her to pray in the masjid", that a menstruating woman is not permitted to enter a mosque, that women are not permitted to wear perfume when going out and so on and so forth. He recommends a book called "The Ideal Muslimah" which is full of unbelievable crap, such as that the woman only goes to paradise if her husband is pleased with her. Of course the whole book is full of the most misogynistic ahadeeth.

                  Sorry, I can't take such a guy seriously.

                  yuck

                  Aishah urged women to take good care of their husbands and to recognize the rights that their husbands had over them.
                  She saw these rights as being so great and so important that a woman was barely qualified to wipe the dust from her
                  husband's feet with her face, as she stated "O womenfolk, if you knew the rights that your husbands have over you,
                  every one of you would wipe the dust from her husband's feet with her face."
                  ...

                  The warning given to the woman whose husband is angry with her reaches such an extent that it
                  would shake the conscience of every righteous wife who has faith in Allah (SWT) and the Last Day
                  she is told that her prayer and good deeds will not be accepted, until her husband is pleased with
                  her again.

                  ...

                  When the true Muslim woman thinks about these sahih hadith which describe the fate of most
                  women in the Hereafter, she is always on the alert lest she fall into the sins of ingratitude towards
                  her husband, or frequent cursing, or denying her husband's good treatment of her, or forgetting to
                  give thanks for times of ease, or failing to be patient at times of difficulty. In any case, she hastens
                  to give charity as the Prophet (PBUH) urged all women to do, in the hope that it may save them
                  from that awful fate which will befall most of those women who deviate from truth and let trivial
                  matters distract them from remembering Allah (SWT) and the Last Day, and whose bad qualities
                  will ultimately lead them into the Fire of Hell. The Muslim woman, on the other hand, sets the
                  highest example of respect towards one's husband and taking note of his good qualities. This is the
                  attitude of loyalty that befits the true Muslim woman who respects her husband's rights and does
                  not ignore his virtues.

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                    unknownuser
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                    Dear sister Leyna, are you denying that women's voice can excite men? see what brother Mazhar said

                    Voice is the weakest stimuli that can excite. First and strongest is the vision and touch.

                    By "voice" I mean speech.

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                      Leyna
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                      The same for women. They get attracted to manly voices.

                      And not only to voices, to looks as well.

                      This, for example, is a guy many women find sexy, based on his voice, looks, and movements

                      Tarkan -- Kuzu Kuzu

                      http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif

                      Ahh the memories that one was the first I ever heard of his ;D

                      I like that song too. http//foolstown.com/sm/leb.gif

                      Amr Diab - Habibi Ya Nour El Ein

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                        Ayisha
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                        Dear sister Leyna, are you denying that women's voice can excite men? see what brother Mazhar said

                        "Voice is the weakest stimuli that can excite. First and strongest is the vision and touch.

                        By "voice" I mean speech. "

                        If its the weakest stimuli then either women need their tongues ripped out or men need to be deaf, that should sort the problem

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                          Ayisha
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                          And not only to voices, to looks as well.

                          This, for example, is a guy many women find sexy, based on his voice, looks, and movements

                          Tarkan -- Kuzu Kuzu

                          http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif

                          I like that song too. http//foolstown.com/sm/leb.gif

                          Amr Diab - Habibi Ya Nour El Ein

                          sister are you trying to over excite the males here by dancing? o

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                            unknownuser
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                            sister are you trying to over excite the males here by dancing?

                            sure, her intentions are quite clear...

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                              And not only to voices, to looks as well.
                              This, for example, is a guy many women find sexy, based on his voice, looks, and movements

                              hummmmm, you said many women you mean girls because women are something else which is probably an adult ones who might be married and if they are married and have fantasy about this guy, know that they cheats their husbands.

                              Anyways how about you ? how do you find Tarkan ? yay

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                                Ayisha
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                                hummmmm, you said many women you mean girls because women are something else which is probably an adult ones who might be married and if they are married and have fantasy about this guy, know that they cheats their husbands.

                                ??? ???

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  hummmmm, you said many women you mean girls because women are something else which is probably an adult ones who might be married and if they are married and have fantasy about this guy, know that they cheats their husbands.

                                  Anyways how about you ? how do you find Tarkan ? yay

                                  bravo

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                                    Leyna
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                                    sister are you trying to over excite the males here by dancing?

                                    Oh no, sister, I showed a male dancing -- only for educational purposes and in order to make a point. http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif

                                    My apologies, I should have added a warning that the video contains many haram things, such as music, dancing, showing awrah etc., so that those among us who are weak can avoid looking at it and falling into sin.

                                    http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif

                                    Look, Tarkan is a shameless guy, he even publicly makes fun of the fact that he causes great fitnah. http//www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-018.gif Watch this at your own risk!

                                    kdm

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      Oh no, sister, I showed a male dancing -- only for educational purposes and in order to make a point. http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif

                                      My apologies, I should have added a warning that the video contains many haram things, such as music, dancing, showing awrah etc., so that those among us who are weak can avoid looking at it and falling into sin.

                                      http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif

                                      Look, Tarkan is a shameless guy, he even publicly makes fun of the fact that he causes great fitnah. http//www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-018.gif Watch this at your own risk!

                                      kdm

                                      http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif

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                                        Mazhar
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                                        If its the weakest stimuli then either women need their tongues ripped out or men need to be deaf, that should sort the problem &nbsp

                                        Stimuli is only that which is meant to allure. Speech and tone can conveys hidden signals intentionally or unintentionally. This is why injunction was issued to be careful in the selection of words and the tone of speech, since people with disease in their hearts, can perceive a different signal, if the tone and words are uttered off the cuff, without first having evaluated the pros and cons.

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                                          Ayisha
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                                          Stimuli is only that which is meant to allure. Speech and tone can conveys hidden signals intentionally or unintentionally. This is why injunction was issued to be careful in the selection of words and the tone of speech, since people with disease in their hearts, can perceive a different signal, if the tone and words are uttered off the cuff, without first having evaluated the pros and cons.

                                          yes i agree with what you have said but its the people with disease in their hearts that need to be the target of change and not women shut up and locked away just because they have a voice.

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