43:18 Women not able to give clear expression to an argument in disputation ?
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I had thought you will give me some lesson to make me understand the "elequence" theory of you, but here it is more confused than Jalalain and others who shomehow thought women are bestowed with inferior intellect. The above explanation almost makes mockery of the finest language of the world, which is Mubeen, that makes every bit of informartion crystal clear and isolated from one another, so that the reader gets unimbiguous perception of the stated thing.
No, I'll not give you any lesson, I'll make you reject everything you have ever read in Arabic, because as I see from this post and others of yours, your Arabic it totally a mess in a your backyard, and by the way the explanation was good and everyone where I live or in any place in the world, he will congatulate me for this wonderful explanation for one reason, I detailed the information from the verse without give my own interpretation which it will be that the verse talked about Girls or women who they grow up making and wearing stuff of beauty.
In Arabic no noun and verb is without a gender. This is masculine passive, "the one male who is brought up".
No, wrong , we can in Arabic talk in general without specify the gender "the one person who " and not "brought up" it's wrong, it's "grew up or raised in a place"
This is a pearl of wisdom new for me that "" mentions the gender of the person talked about. May Allah have mercy on Arabs.
there is no pearl of wisdom, I explained to you how the gender has been mentioned and I'm right, and I don't need you to say the opposite , take it or leave it.
It means you are taking it and rightly so as Masdar and not plural.
Yes, it's Masdar, it's not plural >>>> another Masdar is "".
Who said this? Rich people do place chains and diamond rings and bracelets of gold as decorations to their sons. Before it is preposition which reflects the state in which he is brought up.
oh my God, look we're talking about Arabs and their traditions at time where the boy must grow up between swords and horses and commerce, and where the girlmust grow up between Gold and Harir and stuff of beauty whether they are rich or not , this is their traditions .
about " " it doesn't mean the place itself , it means the situation of the place in which the person is grew up.English does not have that sort of eloquence to mean by "he" a woman. Here you seem to agree that in the verse not woman but the man is being referred.
No, the gender of the person has been mentioned in the place where he grew up and raised in it, so we did know that the gender of this person is a female person . so the verse talked about women .
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No, I'll not give you any lesson, I'll make you reject everything you have ever read in Arabic, because as I see from this post and others of yours, your Arabic it totally a mess in a your backyard, and by the way the explanation was good and everyone where I live or in any place in the world, he will congatulate me for this wonderful explanation for one reason, I detailed the information from the verse without give my own interpretation which it will be that the verse talked about Girls or women who they grow up making and wearing stuff of beauty.
No, wrong , we can in Arabic talk in general without specify the gender "the one person who " and not "brought up" it's wrong, it's "grew up or raised in a place"
Arabic has gender related to just about every word.
grew up or raised in a place IS THE SAME as brought up. I understand you can argue about the Arabic but please dont presume to know English -
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In Arabic no noun and verb is without a gender. This is masculine passive, "the one male who is brought up".Reformer No, wrong , we can in Arabic talk in general without specify the gender "the one person who " and not "brought up" it's wrong, it's "grew up or raised in a place"
After having read this I find solace for having earlier presumed and stated as being "persianised Arab".
In Arabic Particles including in isolation do not impart meanings; they become meaningful and shape the meanings only when they are used alongwith nouns and verbs in a sentence.
followed by a singular masculine passive imperfect verb indicates ONLY and ONLY a masculine; i.e. boy/son and it can never be presumed that it refers to general gender or to a feminine.In situations like this Allah's advice is this
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Therefore/for that reason, you leave them and what they imaginatively innovate/restructure things -
After having read this I find solace for having earlier presumed and stated as being "persianised Arab".
In Arabic Particles including in isolation do not impart meanings; they become meaningful and shape the meanings only when they are used alongwith nouns and verbs in a sentence.
followed by a singular masculine passive imperfect verb indicates ONLY and ONLY a masculine; i.e. boy/son and it can never be presumed that it refers to general gender or to a feminine.You better came to teach me Arabic, because I'm from India or pakistan or whatever .
look, do what you want, explain what you want but know that every word from you without knoweldge can be your VIP tickets to Hell. I've said hell because your own interpretation of Quran is really a mess, so good luck . ah one more thing Arabic is not limited by understanding the word, but it is limited in understanding the meaning of the word which is unfortunately for you can be anything >> so keep leading the memebers with you whith your non-Arabic lessons.
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For learning Arabic, video tapes of Madina University are available on line, I advise that one should spare some hours of one's life to listen them carefully, in proper sequence.
And I tell people that most of the grammer and parsing of the sentence can and should be learnt by carefully seeing the words of Qur'aan. Listening and carefully seeing the words will make understanding Qur'aan very easy. Allah says
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And they are those who when they are reminded with the Aa'ya'at of their Sustainer Lord
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they do not behave/fall on them in deafness and in blindnessAlFurqan
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And the sincere allegiants of Ar'Reh'maan are those who walk upon the Earth in a manner reflecting softness and humbleness.
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You better came to teach me Arabic, because I'm from India or pakistan or whatever .
look, do what you want, explain what you want but know that every word from you without knoweldge can be your VIP tickets to Hell. I've said hell because your own interpretation of Quran is really a mess, so good luck . ah one more thing Arabic is not limited by understanding the word, but it is limited in understanding the meaning of the word which is unfortunately for you can be anything >> so keep leading the memebers with you whith your non-Arabic lessons.
Wow Mazhar is lucky he got a VIP ticket laugh but sorry you ignore me '(
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Wow Mazhar is lucky he got a VIP ticket laugh but sorry you ignore me '(
well, I said VIP tickets to hell, he can give you one as a gift . !
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Don?t worry I already booked a ice-cream parlor and will serve you ice-cream made from flames eat
No, thanks
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well, I said VIP tickets to hell
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