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    szuberi
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    Hello friends

    My name is Salman and i am a relatively newer "God Alone" revert. I immigrated to Canada in 2001 from Pakistan. I am from a typical "sheep mentality" sunni family where i blindly believed everything i was told about Islam. About two years ago, i picked up the Quran myself and first time in my short 33 year lifespan, i started to read it myself. It was not long before i finally realized that how wrong were the so many concepts, stories and beliefs that i held to myself about Islam. As i moved along reading the Quran, so many questions that i had kept on getting answered one by one.

    I have also read the Bible and i sometimes do dawah to christians too and i find them much more willing and open to listen to criticism. I have given a few lectures on islam at a few churches locally here as well. It is my daily schedule to read and research the Quran and tell the truth to all others who are willing to listen. I think it is more important for us muslims to do dawah to our fellow muslims since so many of us are blindly following every other book but the Quran.

    I thank Allah for guiding me to the right direction i.e. "God Alone" since on the day of judgement, it will be just me and him. No Bukhari, Muslim, Muhammad, Jesus or any other prophet or imam.

    I would like to connect with other like minded individuals on this awesome forum who are from Canada (Toronto).

    Also, i am looking for Edip Yuskel's translation locally in Toronto but cant seem to find a copy in local book stores. I will appreciate if someone can help me find it.

    Thanks and Wasalam

    Salman Zuberi

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      Hello friends

      My name is Salman and i am a relatively newer "God Alone" revert. I immigrated to Canada in 2001 from Pakistan. I am from a typical "sheep mentality" sunni family where i blindly believed everything i was told about Islam. About two years ago, i picked up the Quran myself and first time in my short 33 year lifespan, i started to read it myself. It was not long before i finally realized that how wrong were the so many concepts, stories and beliefs that i held to myself about Islam. As i moved along reading the Quran, so many questions that i had kept on getting answered one by one.

      I have also read the Bible and i sometimes do dawah to christians too and i find them much more willing and open to listen to criticism. I have given a few lectures on islam at a few churches locally here as well. It is my daily schedule to read and research the Quran and tell the truth to all others who are willing to listen. I think it is more important for us muslims to do dawah to our fellow muslims since so many of us are blindly following every other book but the Quran.

      I thank Allah for guiding me to the right direction i.e. "God Alone" since on the day of judgement, it will be just me and him. No Bukhari, Muslim, Muhammad, Jesus or any other prophet or imam.

      I would like to connect with other like minded individuals on this awesome forum who are from Canada (Toronto).

      Also, i am looking for Edip Yuskel's translation locally in Toronto but cant seem to find a copy in local book stores. I will appreciate if someone can help me find it.

      Thanks and Wasalam

      Salman Zuberi

      welcome

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        Ayisha
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        welcome peace group

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          welcome

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            Wakas
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            Welcome.

            You can download it online if that helps
            http//www.studyquran.org/resources/Quran_Reformist_Translation.pdf

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              Shumali
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              welcome I am in canada (montreal) too.

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                dhikr
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                Hey!

                I am from BC, Canada!

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                  szuberi
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                  Thank you everyone

                  group

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                    AlFajr
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                    welcome Salman

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                      Truestar
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                      Hello and welcome

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                        kgwithnob
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                        Salaam szuberi,

                        Welcome. welcome

                        Peace,
                        Khalil

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                          AK85
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                          Hello I am new here as well, and I am also a new revert to God Alone.

                          I was born and raised in Saudi Arabia but am of Indian origin. I was raised believing that I am a Sunni muslim and do not remember anyone telling me that hadith is not to be put on par with the Qu'ran or not used a source of legislation. I came to Canada at the age of 8. Growing up I was not very religious and even had an atheist phase which embarrassed me deeply upon personal reflection of this phase as I grew older and began to once again believe in a creator as I was taught to when I was a child.

                          When I came to Canada my parents did not force religion upon me or set up sessions with someone learned in the Qu'ran who taught me to recite it in Arabic, a language which I was only beginning to learn and yet learned to recite the Qu'ran in Arabic completely (I have since forgotten large sections of the Qu'ran in its original Arabic language however I remember some verses in the original language, along with verses I have re learned in a language I understand)

                          I began becoming interested/reverted to this religion out of my own accord about 2 years ago.

                          Only about 5 days ago I entered a phrase into google that changed my life "hadith which contradict the Qu'ran"

                          At first I described myself as one of those who "only follow the hadith which do not contradict the Qu'ran"

                          For the past 4-5 days I have spent at least an hour and a half if not more everyday reading sites like this one and quranic.org

                          Of all the quotes from the Qu'ran which have been presented to me arguing in favour of the position of Allah ALONE, one of them stood out to me like a large polished diamond and in my opinion is the only thing one needs to say when speaking with those who insist on a place for hadith in Islam is the following

                          We did not leave anything out of this book. (63

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                            Of all the quotes from the Qu'ran which have been presented to me arguing in favour of the position of Allah ALONE, one of them stood out to me like a large polished diamond and in my opinion is the only thing one needs to say when speaking with those who insist on a place for hadith in Islam is the following

                            We did not leave anything out of this book. (63

                            Salaam brother AK85, welcome

                            Mashaa ALLAH brother! I wonder what the SECTARIANS, i.e., Sunnis, Shi'ahs, and... what not, have to say to justify their views against 638.

                            With salaam,
                            Khalil

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                              Hello I am new here as well, and I am also a new revert to God Alone.

                              I was born and raised in Saudi Arabia but am of Indian origin. I was raised believing that I am a Sunni muslim and do not remember anyone telling me that hadith is not to be put on par with the Qu'ran or not used a source of legislation. I came to Canada at the age of 8. Growing up I was not very religious and even had an atheist phase which embarrassed me deeply upon personal reflection of this phase as I grew older and began to once again believe in a creator as I was taught to when I was a child.

                              When I came to Canada my parents did not force religion upon me or set up sessions with someone learned in the Qu'ran who taught me to recite it in Arabic, a language which I was only beginning to learn and yet learned to recite the Qu'ran in Arabic completely (I have since forgotten large sections of the Qu'ran in its original Arabic language however I remember some verses in the original language, along with verses I have re learned in a language I understand)

                              I began becoming interested/reverted to this religion out of my own accord about 2 years ago.

                              Only about 5 days ago I entered a phrase into google that changed my life "hadith which contradict the Qu'ran"

                              At first I described myself as one of those who "only follow the hadith which do not contradict the Qu'ran"

                              For the past 4-5 days I have spent at least an hour and a half if not more everyday reading sites like this one and quranic.org

                              Of all the quotes from the Qu'ran which have been presented to me arguing in favour of the position of Allah ALONE, one of them stood out to me like a large polished diamond and in my opinion is the only thing one needs to say when speaking with those who insist on a place for hadith in Islam is the following

                              We did not leave anything out of this book. (63

                              Excellent answer, bravo I think used that verse myself to shut the hadith following kuffirs the f*** up ;D

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                                We did not leave anything out of this book. (63

                                Well, like most of time ignorance of the meaning of the words .

                                There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communities like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered.

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                                God here didn't talk about Quran , the book is the " " the book where God mentioned everything with its destiny and his will(the will of God). Your problem guys here is just taking the translation of the words without its real meaning .

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                                  Well, like most of time ignorance of the meaning of the words .

                                  There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communities like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered.

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                                  God here didn't talk about Quran , the book is the " " the book where God mentioned everything with its destiny and his will(the will of God). Your problem guys here is just taking the translation of the words without its real meaning .

                                  ahh the archived board )

                                  so why did he say kitab? Why did He say the book and not the archived board? Why does the next verse talk of those who rejected the verses? we dont know the verses in the archived board do we?

                                  It seems you are still in the time of ignorance and have to misinterpret Gods CLEAR Words to match YOUR agenda as a hadithist and worshipper of a man.

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                                    AK85
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                                    Well, like most of time ignorance of the meaning of the words .

                                    There is not a moving (living) creature on earth, nor a bird that flies with its two wings, but are communities like you. We have neglected nothing in the Book, then unto their Lord they (all) shall be gathered.

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                                    God here didn't talk about Quran , the book is the " " the book where God mentioned everything with its destiny and his will(the will of God). Your problem guys here is just taking the translation of the words without its real meaning .

                                    You know what, I realized that after and I researched the full quote. It is most likely correct that what you said.

                                    Now can you give me your commentary on this verse however?

                                    And a day/time, We send/resurrect/revive in every nation/generation a witness/testifier on them from themselves, and We came with you (as) a witness/testifier on those, and We descended on you The Book (a) clarification/explanation to every thing, and guidance, and mercy, and a good news to the Moslems/submitters/surrenderers. (1689)

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                                      You know what, I realized that after and I researched the full quote. It is most likely correct that what you said.

                                      Now can you give me your commentary on this verse however?

                                      And a day/time, We send/resurrect/revive in every nation/generation a witness/testifier on them from themselves, and We came with you (as) a witness/testifier on those, and We descended on you The Book (a) clarification/explanation to every thing, and guidance, and mercy, and a good news to the Moslems/submitters/surrenderers. (1689)

                                      quran doesn't even explain the method of salaat, how can we say that it explains EVERYTHING? that is too big of a claim!

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                                        quran doesn't even explain the method of salaat, how can we say that it explains EVERYTHING? that is too big of a claim!

                                        So now you are questioning the truth of the Qu'ran?

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                                          So now you are questioning the truth of the Qu'ran?

                                          By the way, just in case you are not satisfied with that translation here are some other ones

                                          Literal And a day/time, We send/resurrect/revive in every nation/generation a witness/testifier on them from themselves, and We came with you (as) a witness/testifier on those, and We descended on you The Book (a) clarification/explanation to every thing, and guidance, and mercy, and a good news to the Moslems/submitters/surrenderers.

                                          Yusuf Ali One day We shall raise from all Peoples a witness against them, from amongst themselves and We shall bring thee as a witness against these (thy people) and We have sent down to thee the Book explaining all things, a Guide, a Mercy, and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

                                          Pickthal And (bethink you of) the day when We raise in every nation a witness against them of their own folk, and We bring thee (Muhammad) as a witness against these. And We reveal the Scripture unto thee as an exposition of all things, and a guidance and a mercy and good tidings for those who have surrendered (to Allah).

                                          Arberry And the day We shall raise up from every nation a witness against them from amongst them, and We shall bring thee as a witness against those. And We have sent down on thee the Book making clear everything, and as a guidance and a mercy, and as good tidings to those who surrender.

                                          Shakir And on the day when We will raise up in every people a witness against them from among themselves, and bring you as a witness against these-- and We have revealed the Book to you explaining clearly everything, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit.

                                          Sarwar On the day when We call a witness against every nation from their own people, We will call you, (Muhammad), as a witness against them all. We have sent you the Book which clarifies all matters. It is a guide, a mercy, and glad news to the Muslims.

                                          Khalifa The day will come when we will raise from every community a witness from among them, and bring you as the witness of these people. We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance, and mercy, and good news for the submitters.

                                          Hilali/Khan And (remember) the Day when We shall raise up from every nation a witness against them from amongst themselves. And We shall bring you (O Muhammad SAW) as a witness against these. And We have sent down to you the Book (the Quran) as an exposition of everything, a guidance, a mercy, and glad tidings for those who have submitted themselves (to Allah as Muslims).

                                          H/K/Saheeh And the Day when We will resurrect among every nation a witness over them from themselves. And We will bring you, , as a witness over your nation. And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims.

                                          Malik O Muhammad, warn them about that Day when We shall call a witness from every nation to testify against it, and We shall call you O Muhammad to testify against your people that is why We have sent down to you this Book (The Qur'an) to explain everything - a guide, a blessing and good news for Muslims.

                                          QXP For, one Day, We shall raise from every community a leading witness against them from among themselves. And We shall call you (O Prophet) to testify regarding those whom your Message has reached. The Book We have revealed to you explains everything; a Guide and Grace and the glad tiding for all those who have submitted.

                                          Maulana Ali And on the day when We raise up in every people a witness against them from among themselves, and bring thee as a witness against these. And We have revealed the Book to thee explaining all things, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who submit.

                                          Free Minds And the Day We send to every nation a witness against them from themselves, and We have brought you as a witness against these. And We have sent down to you the Scripture as a clarification for all things, and a guide and mercy and good tidings to those who have surrendered.

                                          Qaribullah And on that Day We shall raise up from every nation a witness from their own against them, and We shall bring you (Prophet Muhammad) as a witness against those. And We have sent down to you the Book making everything clear, as a guidance, and mercy, and glad tidings to those who submit.

                                          George Sale On a certain day We will raise up in every nation a witness against them, from among themselves; and We will bring thee, O Mohammed, as a witness against these Arabians. We have sent down unto thee the book of the Koran, for an explication of every thing necessary both as to faith and practice, and a direction, and mercy, and good tidings unto the Moslems.

                                          JM Rodwell And one day we will summon up in every people a witness against them from among themselves; and we will bring thee up as a witness against these Meccans for to thee have we sent down the Book which cleareth up everything, a guidance, and mercy, and glad t

                                          Asad for one Day We shall raise up within every community a witness against them from among themselves.'O' And thee have We brought forth to bear witness regarding those ,'? inasmuch as We have bestowed from on high upon thee, step by step, this divine writ, to make everything clear,'?' and to provide guidance and grace and a glad tiding unto all who have surrendered themselves to God.

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