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    Paradox_Uncreated
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    Fear of death make many subconsciously cling to an external god. But nothing will happen at death, except yourself. You are the paradox that is God. Remove all external gods from your mind.

    MEDITATE ON I am a paradox, death, and there are no external gods.

    There is just the one internal God, We, all consciousness and life. The one force, that created all, and arranges all.

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      Fear of death make many subconsciously cling to an external god. But nothing will happen at death, except yourself. You are the paradox that is God. Remove all external gods from your mind.

      MEDITATE ON I am a paradox, death, and there are no external gods.

      There is just the one internal God, We, all consciousness and life. The one force, that created all, and arranges all.

      But I thought that there was "None like unto Him"? Correct my mistake if I'm wrong.

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        Paradox_Uncreated
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        God/lifeforce/consiousness is a unique force yes.

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          High_Imam_Ismaili_Sniper
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          God/lifeforce/consiousness is a unique force yes.

          I agree that everything may be part of God, or that God may be in everything.

          "Wheresoever you turn, there is the face of God."

          But is everything in existence God or is God inside everything in existence? peace

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            Paradox_Uncreated
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            God is nothing. Nothing measurable, not an object, nothing visible. When the soul leaves the body, there is nothing that seems to leave, in the created world. Yet God is The Word - consciousness,life.

            Governing everything - without God, there would be nothing.

            I believe the phrase "Those who believe in the unseen" may be about that.

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              God is nothing. Nothing measurable, not an object, nothing visible. When the soul leaves the body, there is nothing that seems to leave, in the created world. Yet God is The Word - consciousness,life.

              Governing everything - without God, there would be nothing.

              I believe the phrase "Those who believe in the unseen" may be about that.

              Interesting..can you post some Qur'anic verses supporting that? I'm not critical I just want to verify it for myself.

              Peace

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                Paradox_Uncreated
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                032.009
                YUSUFALI But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding) little thanks do ye give!
                PICKTHAL Then He fashioned him and breathed into him of His Spirit; and appointed for you hearing and sight and hearts. Small thanks give ye!
                SHAKIR Then He made him complete and breathed into him of His spirit, and made for you the ears and the eyes and the hearts; little is it that you give thanks.

                This is about Ruh, or Ruach - breath of life.

                Unfortunately sufis have influenced the translation of the Quran, so that many translations give an impression of God being "everything". But this is not correct.

                For instance the verse 57.3, is better translated as "He is the first (word) the last (word) the clear and the innermost".

                http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/6/103/ (Muhammad Asad) "No human vision can encompass Him, whereas He encompasses all human vision for He alone is unfathomable, all-aware."

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                  sufis If you come from sufism, and is used to the statement "I am everything", you might want to try and exchange that with "intellect controls everything". However remember that intellect is a non-object, nothing.

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                    The Qur'aan, verses 223 & 224

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                    And among mankind is he who disputes concerning All?h, without knowledge, and follows every rebellious devil. (3) For him/the devil, it is decreed that, whosoever follows him, he/the devil, will mislead him, and will drive him to the torment of the Fire. (4)

                    Peace,
                    Khalil

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                      Paradox_Uncreated
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                      And whosoever follows me, will get to heaven. So get ye meditating! sun

                      angel peace

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                        So god will punish himself in hellfire, that is his little pieces which is in us? or will he punish us without consiousness, or without life force? he will punish the lifeless?

                        peace

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                          Paradox_Uncreated
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                          "You can`t run from yourself". A saying known in modern times.

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                            i guess we will have to leave that to the day of judgement, you stand in front of yourself and I will inshala stand in front of my Creator, and He will judge what we dispute in.
                            I pray to our Sustainer to guide us both.

                            Peace and love my brother. peace

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                              Paradox_Uncreated
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                              Technically, I don`t think you can pray for me. Prayer is to be godconscious/to remember God. That helps the individual doing it, only.

                              And prayers aren`t valid after judgement day.. (which has been for me.)

                              JD seems to be happening at around age 25, but it can vary. Maybe even as low as 15. And even animals experience it. In the west, many refer to it simply as "becoming an adult."

                              So, does that mean that people above 25 cant become muslim? No, it doesnt. People who relize these truths I am telling, also realize the poetic nature of The Quran, and that it works on many levels. From simple religion, "do as told", to advanced mystical knowledge, beyond static religion.

                              If you are a serious muslim, you have already been rejecting satan, as your time as muslim. Then you are close to these truths, and judgement day. And continue the rejection of satan, in judgement day, which is said to last a 1000 days, and you might gain insight into the deepest mystic aspects of the Quran, which I know aswell.

                              And you may realize that our common nature, is the key to peace, within and in the world. Disagreement is an illusion. It is only the idolater who expresses views that does not fit with ones nature.

                              Peace, and our celebrations.

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                                JD seems to be happening at around age 25, but it can vary. Maybe even as low as 15. And even animals experience it. In the west, many refer to it simply as "becoming an adult."

                                How can your life be judged collectively if your judged while your still alive? I believe judgement day is yet to come when ones life ends on this planet and we're all raised, assuming you take quran as a divine source of law.

                                PEACE

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                                  Paradox_Uncreated
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                                  The experience might be related to "born-again" christians aswell.

                                  The verses in the Quran, about being destroyed, and recreated, might be about the same thinking.

                                  Gnosis is definately about the same. Any "meeting with your Lord" type of experience.

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                                    So god will punish himself in hellfire, that is his little pieces which is in us? or will he punish us without consiousness, or without life force? he will punish the lifeless?

                                    peace

                                    Don't forget, since we're all God we will first judge ourselves, weigh our life, and then decide whether we should go burn in hell or relax in heaven! laugh

                                    I know what I'M choosing rotfl

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                                      Paradox_Uncreated
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                                      You will realize, not choose.

                                      Maybe this is where we used the concept of the subconscious. The Word (Allah/consciousness) punishes.
                                      But you might not be conscious of this.

                                      When you sleep, the world still turns. The stars are on the sky, and each atom revolves in it`s course.

                                      And each day, people wake up to divine reality. And heaven is for the righeous, and hellfire for the wrongdoer.

                                      And in the mean time, Gods justice is exercized. By angels or men, or demons for the lowest.

                                      ..we assign to them devils as intimate companions..
                                      ..if they harm one of you, we harm one of them..
                                      etc..

                                      This is happening all the time. Fear God, do good.

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                                        Paradox_Uncreated
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                                        And you know it`s just not about punishment, but you can look for the truths stated in the Quran about angels, coming before and after you.
                                        And other signs, in the end, all of creation ends up being a sign and verification for the existence of God, and yourself.

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                                          Paradox Uncreated - how do you know this?

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