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Jinn: What's the point of mentioning them in the Qur'an at all?

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    God_Within
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    Peace be upon you all,

    It has been a while since I have posted here so bear with me.

    The mention of "jinn" is extremely important and crucial to your success in life.

    First, religion and religious teachings deal with BEHAVIOR SHAPING. This is their goal. Please take some time to think on that first.

    The tools given to man to shape her behavior are your HIDDEN faculties of thought (both verbal and pictorial images).

    The things/ideas/concepts that you constantly think about shape your future, and thanks to the Mercy of God, we have full control of these faculties, however many do not take this seriously.

    How often do you have a problem, for example with your spouse, and you IMAGINE all day the scenario of how it will be when you get home to them...you picture them pushing your button and see yourself responding a certain way. And you engage in this IMAGE hidden in your mind all day long.

    This is what brings these things to fruition. You are made in the likeness of God and you likewise are a creator (on a smaller scale).

    So getting back to the point, your hidden thoughts/images are jinn. Of your hidden thoughts, some are correct/righteous thoughts and images, others are wicked.

    If we cultivate the proper thoughts/images, then our nafs(subconcious) will become purified(zakaa) , if we corrupt the nafs(subconcious), we fail.

    The negative thoughts/images that we feed our nafs drive us to do wrong, they are called shayteen.

    Thoughts/images are tied in with our emotions(energy in motion), and thus gives the understanding of fiery.

    It's been a while since I spoke about this so forgive me for not being as clear as I could, I look forward to discussing this with anyone who is interested.

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      God_Within
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      Peace be upon you,

      Also wanted to mention that the garden, comes from the same root as your hidden thoughts......

      The garden is the peaceful state of correct thinking/imagining that will spill over into your dreams(you will live righteously even in your dreams when you purify(zakaat) your subconcious(nafs) by programming(salaat) it with the proper thoughts/images.

      Death is likened to sleep....so do not think al jinn are not important, they are of utmost importance because they are your tools of salvation, that is why they are mentioned.

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        God_Within
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        Peace be upon you,

        thoughts are the seeds in your garden

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          amuslim
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          Peace God WIthin,

          Where does the Qur'an say that we were made in God's image? What exactly is God's image anyhow? Doesn't it say in the Qur'an that there is nothing like him and that whatever you think is God, is not?

          Peace

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            san
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            Just some little catch

            Doesn't it say in the Qur'an that there is nothing like him

            I think you meant 1124, yes.

            and that whatever you think is God, is not?

            Where does it say so? It's very problematic when you put it that way, you see, e.g.
            A I think God is Al-Rahman, Al-Rahim.
            B No, God is not Al-Rahman, Al-Rahim (because whatever you think is God, is not)

            ("Only a Sith deals in absolutes" as Obi-Wan says... in an absolute way)

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              God_Within
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              Peace be upon you amuslim,

              Where does the Qur'an say that we were made in God's image?

              3030 So keep up your face/front to the religion, (as) a submitter/Moslem/Unifier of God , God's nature which He created/originated the people on it, (there is) no replacement/substitution to God's creation, that (is) the religion the straight/valuable , and but most of the people do not know.

              What exactly is God's image anyhow?

              The "image" or pattern upon which we were created is a PEACE(salaam) that nothing can disturb. Peace is our true divine nature. That is why the system of God is described as islam, and this is why we greet those who are with us with Peace be upon you. We are God's and to God we are returning!

              Do you enjoy stress? Is not stress the opposite of a healthy prosperous life? The truth is there is nothing in life that has the power to respond emotionally, we always have the ability to respond with Peace to all events.

              Doesn't it say in the Qur'an that there is nothing like him and that whatever you think is God, is not?

              Yes, The God is the UNSEEN. It is That which perceives but Itself cannot be perceived. God is the ANTI MATTER that creates matter. All matter is made of atoms...electrons, protons, and neutrons. Everything! All matter vibrates, moves. These are the laws of matter. God is energy at rest, therefore unformed, therefore cannot be divided because how can you divide that which is not matter?

              This is the PEACE that we are to attain, the STILLNESS where God may talk to us. This is the Nirvana of Hinduism. Nir=not Vana=moving. This is the Hetep of ancient Egypt. This is the Shalom of Judiasm. Jesus taught to greet "Peace be with you". This is the Salaam of this reading(quran).....and so on

              How would the world be if people programmed thier spirits to respond with peace rather than emotion(energy in motion)?

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                Shirley
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                I'm confused, what happen to page 4 and all the post on it? wow

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                  the trick is , when the JINN came to hear the quran, and they went back to their people.
                  they make it sound as if the messenger didn't see them because they can't be seen
                  but in reality , if you read carefully, Jinn people came to hear the quran in town, while the messenger wasn't there , or people didn't recognise them, as ordinary people do, they go to other towns fo tourism etc... they heard from other people and went back home, as nomal as possible, possible on horses, or on a ship etccc.

                  Jinn are humans , normal people, they were people of the north, propably british, irish etc... created from NAR , maybe meaning north , in frensh nort .
                  in the kabale, they call themselves in frensh les GENS , in english GENTS.
                  people who has the art to inflitrate , like spys , the word AGENT is a driviate of the arabic JINN. secret societies ae JIN , because we can't see them, and can't point who they are.
                  Jin came from the word Hidden , like ajinna in the woumb, meaning, when we were in the woumbs of our mothers, we were ajinna, singular jinn.
                  every sexret service, spys etc are jinn , AGENTS.
                  until today, the highest Jinn are the british, americans isrealis etc... they are spys higher then any man from the south
                  allah knows best

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                    SeekingYou
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                    the trick is , when the JINN came to hear the quran, and they went back to their people.
                    they make it sound as if the messenger didn't see them because they can't be seen
                    but in reality , if you read carefully, Jinn people came to hear the quran in town, while the messenger wasn't there , or people didn't recognise them, as ordinary people do, they go to other towns fo tourism etc... they heard from other people and went back home, as nomal as possible, possible on horses, or on a ship etccc.

                    Jinn are humans , normal people, they were people of the north, propably british, irish etc... created from NAR , maybe meaning north , in frensh nort .
                    in the kabale, they call themselves in frensh les GENS , in english GENTS.
                    people who has the art to inflitrate , like spys , the word AGENT is a driviate of the arabic JINN. secret societies ae JIN , because we can't see them, and can't point who they are.
                    Jin came from the word Hidden , like ajinna in the woumb, meaning, when we were in the woumbs of our mothers, we were ajinna, singular jinn.
                    every sexret service, spys etc are jinn , AGENTS.
                    until today, the highest Jinn are the british, americans isrealis etc... they are spys higher then any man from the south
                    allah knows best

                    What about the verse that says

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                      loxbox13
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                      What about the verse that says

                      JINN wa INSS , doesn't mean automatiquely 2 separate entities,
                      exemple, god sent alquran wa almizan , it doesn't mean there are 2 things, but the quran is the Mozan
                      or god sent al kitab wa alhikmah, this also means that al kitab is alhikma
                      anzala al kitab wa al furquan , on thing
                      anzala kitab wa mizane , one thing
                      exemple, kitab aw mizan, also one thing, call it kitab or call it al mizan

                      Al INSS wa Al Jinn are the two descriptions on AL Inssan.
                      the apparent is what we see in hulmans, the hidden is everything else that we don't see, like our thoughts, or secret societies , or spys
                      JINN = Hidden
                      before we born, we ae JINN, pluiel AJINNA while in our woumb, cuse we're hidden.
                      this is how far I understood these words, the JINN

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                        gazzali
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                        I have written on this subject at http//al-gazzali.blogspot.com

                        Enjoy reading

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                          GODsubmitter
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                          JINN wa INSS , doesn't mean automatiquely 2 separate entities,
                          exemple, god sent alquran wa almizan , it doesn't mean there are 2 things, but the quran is the Mozan
                          or god sent al kitab wa alhikmah, this also means that al kitab is alhikma
                          anzala al kitab wa al furquan , on thing
                          anzala kitab wa mizane , one thing
                          exemple, kitab aw mizan, also one thing, call it kitab or call it al mizan

                          Al INSS wa Al Jinn are the two descriptions on AL Inssan.
                          the apparent is what we see in hulmans, the hidden is everything else that we don't see, like our thoughts, or secret societies , or spys
                          JINN = Hidden
                          before we born, we ae JINN, pluiel AJINNA while in our woumb, cuse we're hidden.
                          this is how far I understood these words, the JINN

                          SPLENDID loxbox13!
                          I agree totally! Thanks for the explanation, that's how I also understood it.
                          Let's try to cleanse the interpretations of Quran not only of the fabricated hadiths and false mythologies, but also of false mysticism!

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                            Human a Matter-based Life-form turning into Energy-based Life-form.

                            the reason for that is simple, natural Matter-based human don't last very long. They die eventually.

                            The Jinn(a human race), the Matter-based Life-form discover the Knowledge to return them into Energy-based Life-form, a form they when they first brought into existence.

                            Mentioning of Adam, as a race different to Jinn(Race) or Iblis.

                            Stargate Tv series of Concept of Ascension?
                            http//stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Ascension

                            Is an interesting theory. Ray Kurzweil is turning himself into Cyborg so he can live longer.

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