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Salaam Producer,
you did not read the links from you response.
How do you protect from NATO, you establish the Islamic systems, the elite work hard to prevent this and have succeeded in their goals, these alternative systems drain the advantage from the attacker, if you have a system that has no centralised government, like Afganistan, it is almost impossible for the elite to dominate it. If you have a system that has no concept of ownership, and a business system that has no employees, they cannot enslave you to their corporations, the answer cannot be found in marches, riots, voting, or representatives, it is found in law, the natural law is designed to protect, it cannot impose, as legislation does, legislation makes what is unlawful, lawful, if you read the contract of community on my website the natural law and the systems it demands are explained.
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Salaam Abdun Nur,
Salaam Producer,
you did not read the links from you response.
How do you protect from NATO, you establish the Islamic systems, the elite work hard to prevent this and have succeeded in their goals, these alternative systems drain the advantage from the attacker, if you have a system that has no centralised government, like Afganistan, it is almost impossible for the elite to dominate it. If you have a system that has no concept of ownership, and a business system that has no employees, they cannot enslave you to their corporations, the answer cannot be found in marches, riots, voting, or representatives, it is found in law, the natural law is designed to protect, it cannot impose, as legislation does, legislation makes what is unlawful, lawful, if you read the contract of community on my website the natural law and the systems it demands are explained.
Please stop accusing me.
6147 If they accuse thee of falsehood, say "Your Lord is full of mercy all-embracing; but from people in guilt never will His wrath be turned back.
I've read it. I have 8 edition of Blacks Law dictionary, I know the common law. I know the Natural law
How do you protect from NATO, you establish the Islamic systems, the elite work hard to prevent this and have succeeded in their goals, these alternative systems drain the advantage from the attacker,
examples, evidences that the "Islamic systems" works.
if you have a system that has no centralised government, like Afganistan, it is almost impossible for the elite to dominate it.
Aghanistan, live like them. Well that's my fallback position, hide in my bunker.
I don't want to live in bunker for the rest of my life when I have the knowledge, to stop the the Imperialist Elites from dominating us in the first place and live as free as possible.
If you have a system that has no concept of ownership, and a business system that has no employees, they cannot enslave you to their corporations, the answer cannot be found in marches, riots, voting, or representatives, it is found in law, the natural law is designed to protect, it cannot impose, as legislation does, legislation makes what is unlawful, lawful, if you read the contract of community on my website the natural law and the systems it demands are explained.
The Criminals have Robots making Robots factory since 1989 ;
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SREct28lJMwhat laws can stop a criminals with thousand of predator drones shooting at you?
plus, Talon Robots
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=yliThCy3RxYplus, Gladiator Robots
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9FOOs-8syUDo you think the Evil people will find better ways to oppress People?
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Salaam Producer,
quiet clearly you do not understand the law, and you seem to be intentionally dim, I did not say live just as the Afgans, I said the thing that has protected them from the repeated attempts to dominate them has been the polycentric community structure they have in place, a result of the tribal grouping structure, it is the example of this grouping structure I am refering to.
I doubt seriously you have read the links I posted, you may have glaced at the first paragraph, if you did read them you absorbed nothing, I notice this trait with many, they refuse to understand and continue to spout the same complaints, it has taken me several years to fully grasp the natural law, and you say you are fully versed, simply from reading the black's law dictionary, please explain the structure of a court, the purpose and power of an unrebutted affidavit, do animals have rights in natural law, but I guess, I don't accuse, you will not answer, you will restate the same post you have written previously in this thread, and accuse me of being insulting.
The situation of Jinn (clinical psychopaths) dominating the family of Adam has not arrived over night, we have lived in fear, fear is the way the Jinn take control, small fears at first, and slowly they steal more and more control, until you arrive at the point of drone bombs and battleships, drugged soliders murdering without conscience, a media whore that supports murder, poverty, ignorance and lies. So to stop that will not happen over night, and the first step is to remove the fear, take responsibility for your own actions, become fully liable and accountable for yourself, remove the fictions of law placed upon you personally, remove the imposition of state upon yourself, as it is only upon yourself you can be an example. To remove the drone bombs, the soliders of the Jinn, the banksters draining the wealth of the world, is by becoming an example, by taking back your inalienable rights, living under the immutable laws of nature, by refusing to use the fictions invented to steal, like corporations, states and fiat money. Are you willing to do that? Most are not, so the bombs fall.
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Salaam Producer,
quiet clearly you do not understand the law, and you seem to be intentionally dim, I did not say live just as the Afgans, I said the thing that has protected them from the repeated attempts to dominate them has been the polycentric community structure they have in place, a result of the tribal grouping structure, it is the example of this grouping structure I am refering to.
I question your comprehension of reality.
- Yes, Most Parts of British-American Govt do uphold to the Common law Court. 2. CIA does assassination all the time, even though the victims clearly do not give consent. These I called Criminals.
The Law cannot Stop Criminals, Arms do. What about Nuclear Arms?
I doubt seriously you have read the links I posted, you may have glaced at the first paragraph, if you did read them you absorbed nothing, I notice this trait with many, they refuse to understand and continue to spout the same complaints, it has taken me several years to fully grasp the natural law, and you say you are fully versed, simply from reading the black's law dictionary, please explain the structure of a court, the purpose and power of an unrebutted affidavit, do animals have rights in natural law, but I guess, I don't accuse, you will not answer, you will restate the same post you have written previously in this thread, and accuse me of being insulting.
Criminals follows the LAW?
The situation of Jinn (clinical psychopaths) dominating the family of Adam has not arrived over night, we have lived in fear, fear is the way the Jinn take control, small fears at first, and slowly they steal more and more control, until you arrive at the point of drone bombs and battleships, drugged soliders murdering without conscience, a media whore that supports murder, poverty, ignorance and lies. So to stop that will not happen over night, and the first step is to remove the fear, take responsibility for your own actions, become fully liable and accountable for yourself, remove the fictions of law placed upon you personally, remove the imposition of state upon yourself, as it is only upon yourself you can be an example. To remove the drone bombs, the soliders of the Jinn, the banksters draining the wealth of the world, is by becoming an example, by taking back your inalienable rights, living under the immutable laws of nature, by refusing to use the fictions invented to steal, like corporations, states and fiat money. Are you willing to do that? Most are not, so the bombs fall.
"I'm not a Person , I'm a Human Being". "I do NOT give Consent, to you CRIMINALS, to Invade my Allodial Land".
Let me suggest you what LAWS criminals abides to, ARMS, lot of arms. What do you think?
In American Revolutionary War, American Continental Congress Clearly do not give their Consent to be killed by the Criminal British.
Clearly your Common Law Do NOT work on Criminals.
You have until now nothing against Criminals. you can atleast say "arms".
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Salaam Producer,
The situation of Jinn (clinical psychopaths) dominating the family of Adam has not arrived over night, we have lived in fear, fear is the way the Jinn take control, small fears at first, and slowly they steal more and more control, until you arrive at the point of drone bombs and battleships, drugged soliders murdering without conscience, a media whore that supports murder, poverty, ignorance and lies. So to stop that will not happen over night, and the first step is to remove the fear, take responsibility for your own actions, become fully liable and accountable for yourself, remove the fictions of law placed upon you personally, remove the imposition of state upon yourself, as it is only upon yourself you can be an example. To remove the drone bombs, the soliders of the Jinn, the banksters draining the wealth of the world, is by becoming an example, by taking back your inalienable rights, living under the immutable laws of nature, by refusing to use the fictions invented to steal, like corporations, states and fiat money. Are you willing to do that? Most are not, so the bombs fall.
Couldn't agree with you more handshake
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"Death to Heaven, is Absolute Freedom".
Abdun Nur, You have nothing to fear about me.
I have nothing against "Allodium Claim", "Allodial Earth".
Proof to the world it works. If it works, that is Good, that is Great.Free from man's tyranny , is obedience to Allah, even if it kills you.
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And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass.so, no worries, no fear about getting killed by bombs, nukes, poison, war, etc, because
"Death to Heaven, is Absolute Freedom".
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"Death to Heaven, is Absolute Freedom".
Abdun Nur, You have nothing to fear about me.
I have nothing against "Allodium Claim", "Allodial Earth".
Proof to the world it works. If it works, that is Good, that is Great.Free from man's tyranny , is obedience to Allah, even if it kills you.
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And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass.so, no worries, no fear about getting killed by bombs, nukes, poison, war, etc, because
"Death to Heaven, is Absolute Freedom".
Salaam
The final journary to Heaven is definitely absolute freedom, but until that time we need to rid ourself of all sorts of fear like the fear of being wronged or mocked or poverty as Shaitaan induces fear, so lets pray to God to rid us of all fear. As Roosevelt said "We need only fear fear itself"
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Salaam
The final journary to Heaven is definitely absolute freedom, but until that time we need to rid ourself of all sorts of fear like the fear of being wronged or mocked or poverty as Shaitaan induces fearwhy wait, we can stop eating, starve and die. That gives freedom from worldly illusion and shaitan's fear.
As Roosevelt said "We need only fear fear itself"
peaceFear nothing but Allah.
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why wait, we can stop eating, starve and die. That gives freedom from worldly illusion and shaitan's fear.
Pathetic response.
Its really sad to see most of you so anxious to rebuff others that you pay no attention to what's been posted.
May Allah grant you patience.Fear nothing but Allah.
Yet the fact remain that people suffer from fear and satan induces fear
SAY "I seek refuge with the Sustainer of men, 1141 -
Pathetic response.
Its really sad to see most of you so anxious to rebuff others that you pay no attention to what's been posted.Resorting to Insult. Quran 4911 do not insult one another.
It is a valid response.Abdun Nur's post is all okay, I have no problem with it, None. If you want to do it, its your Freedom. You are free to do whatever with your life.
why wait, we can stop eating, starve and die. That gives freedom from worldly illusion and shaitan's fear.
Pathetic response.
Its really sad to see most of you so anxious to rebuff others that you pay no attention to what's been posted.You did not answer the Question, let me answer it;
429 O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.Guarding God Given Life(Quran 429);
Abdun Nur have all the freedom in the world to do his Idea, so does You and me.Are you willing to do that? Most are not, so the bombs fall.
Reality face Abdun Nur. Abdun Nur's Ideas on most people just need more time,
My proactive methods, Making healthy environment trough societal effort, a Nation-State is not a threat to Abdun Nur's Ideas, and it can beneficial to Abdun Nur's Ideas.
If living out Biological Lifespan, Abdun Nur's Ideas does that very fine.
Don't forget about Jacque Fresco, Resource-Based Economy, no more property rights/Allodial land.
Many People, many ways to guard their God Given Life.
Yet the fact remain that people suffer from fear and satan induces fear
SAY "I seek refuge with the Sustainer of men, 1141238 We said, "Go down from it, all of you. And when guidance comes to you from Me, whoever follows My guidance - there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve.
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Resorting to Insult. Quran 4911 do not insult one another.
It is a valid response.Abdun Nur's post is all okay, I have no problem with it, None. If you want to do it, its your Freedom. You are free to do whatever with your life.
Pathetic response.
Its really sad to see most of you so anxious to rebuff others that you pay no attention to what's been posted.You did not answer the Question, let me answer it;
429 O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful.Guarding God Given Life(Quran 429);
Abdun Nur have all the freedom in the world to do his Idea, so does You and me.Reality face Abdun Nur. Abdun Nur's Ideas on most people just need more time,
My proactive methods, Making healthy environment trough societal effort, a Nation-State is not a threat to Abdun Nur's Ideas, and it can beneficial to Abdun Nur's Ideas.
living out Biological Lifespan, Abdun Nur's Ideas does that very fine.
Don't forget about Jacque Fresco, Resource-Based Economy, no more property rights/Allodial land.
Many People, many ways to guard their God Given Life.
238 We said, "Go down from it, all of you. And when guidance comes to you from Me, whoever follows My guidance - there will be no fear concerning them, nor will they grieve.
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Resorting to Insult. Quran 4911 do not insult one another.
It is a valid response.Salaam Producer
I would like to point out that I had no intention of insulting you. I believe those who throw insults at others are actually insulting themselves as they stoop low, however I am confused,on the one hand you suggested why wait, we can stop eating, starve and die. That gives worldly illusion and shaitan's fear yet quoted, 429 O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful, -\Reality face Abdun Nur. Abdun Nur's Ideas on most people just need more time,
I can understadn Abdun Nur's point very well as I too have legal knowledge but to carry this idea forward he needs group of brave people, like the ones who are currently camping outside St Paul's Cathedral and, to be quite honest, sadly I don't see many on this forum. peace
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Salaam IMHO,
Salaam Producer
I would like to point out that I had no intention of insulting you. I believe those who throw insults at others are actually insulting themselves as they stoop low, however I am confused,on the one hand you suggested why wait, we can stop eating, starve and die. That gives worldly illusion and shaitan's fear yet quoted, 429 O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly but only business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves. Indeed, Allah is to you ever Merciful, -\Isimple inquiry about "Guarding God Given Life", ans I answered it.
There are many methods for "Guarding God Given Life". but since we do not know our biological lifespan. Any methods can be true. Mine may be true, Abdun Nur's may be true.
Validity of a Russian, lived more than 100 years by the food he raise. He live by himself without any intrusion by Soviet rule. http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV_Nd0SOBBU
His Allodial Claim works against the Soviet Tyranny and he lives very long.but Allodial Claim is being threaten by Robotic technologies. Allodial ideas may cure People, but it cannot on Highly Automated Robot that may be as advance as founded in the latest videogames. I only address what Allodial Claim do not.
Can the Predator Drones flies without human? Tomahawk Missile done that since 1983. Robot Making Robots since 1989. The Evil Human Contract-destroyer Parasites , The Crown Corporation, British Empire, etc is Replacing Human with Robots, since robots are not attracted by Allodial Claim.
I speculate, Abdun Nur Allodial Claim is more of a survivalist, example. I'm more on Allodial Claim of Civilization that proactive in making things to invite Extreme Contract-destroying Parasites, to be not Extreme Contract-destroying Parasites.
Methods of solving "Extreme Contract-destroying Parasites".
- Abdun Nur Being an Example.
- Producer invite them with Products.
both method are Good. all are invited to do it.
can understadn Abdun Nur's point very well as I too have legal knowledge but to carry this idea forward he needs group of brave people, like the ones who are currently camping outside St Paul's Cathedral and, to be quite honest, sadly I don't see many on this forum. peace
City of London is Allodial to City of London Corporation. Its a Sovereign State like the Vatican. Saint Paul's Cathedral is in City of London.
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20% can be applied as a tax by an Islamic state.
Peace
The verse for this is a reference to war booty, which is hardly an earned income. I really don't think this is an applicable verse go use for income tax.
The Quran existed in an area that had known civilisation for thousands of years. These regimes taxed people, yet the Quran never advocates an income tax. Income taxation in the UK and US is also, only, a relatively recent innovation and even in many Sunni/Shia historical countries (such as Andalusia), they were more reliant on non-Sunni/Shias for their tax base.
Roshan
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There shall be no compulsion in the religion.Thus, Its a mutual Consent, The People, pay the Government to Defend them from Other Tyrannical Government.
People Make Govt to defend From Other Govt, Especially Evil Govt.
Only Allah is King, not Government, Government Serve God by Serving the People.
It clearly says
841 You should know Of anything you gain, that one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger to the relatives, the orphans, the poor, and the wayfarer. You will do this if you have faith with God and in what We revealed to Our servant on the day of distinction, the day the two armies clashed. God applies due measure to/has power over all things.
Pay you Taxes Voluntarily. I don't feel volunteer to pay taxes. Maybe in 1000years later I may get the feeling to Voluntarily pay taxes. )
Tax done to fund the State Govt. Tariff is a tax on Import, protecting the State Local Industry.
Tax the State, Cheap imports will weaken the State. US free trade for example, Taxing the state, no tariff for imports(free trade).
Right... That is why they have an embargo against Cuba...
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Salaam progressive,
I notice you are intentional perverting the guidance of the Qur'an to your own corruption, sighting Ayah 841 as if it was referencing taxation upon a population, is that the action of a Muslim?
There is no compulsion in the Deen of Islam, and taxation is always imposed, so you are compelled through threat or force of arms to comply, therefore taxation cannot be anything to do with the Deen of Islam, you need consider no other ayah, as all ayahs must maintain the guidance expressed by all and every other ayah.
Cuba is a system of corporation where the corporate government is all powerful, they impose regulation, taxation, legislation but surpress all forms of competition and function upon total monopoly, this creates stagnation. This form of corporation is the furthest structure of order from the Islamic model; the Islamic model has no government, no sovereigns, no ownership beyond that which you create yourself, no taxation, no legislation, no representatives, no charters, no constitutions, no statutes, no acts, no treaties and no corporations.
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Peace Abdun Nur.
What about GOD , HE asks that we should serve only HIM.. Or are you going to tell us there is no God either.
Peace.
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It clearly says
841 You should know Of anything you gain, that one-fifth shall go to God and the messenger to the relatives, the orphans, the poor, and the wayfarer. You will do this if you have faith with God and in what We revealed to Our servant on the day of distinction, the day the two armies clashed. God applies due measure to/has power over all things.
841 You missed out the reference to war booty - the 1/5 only applies to war booty.
(Khalifa) You should know that if you gain any SPOILS IN WAR, one fifth shall go to God and his messenger
(Hilali) And know that whatever of WAR BOOTY you may gain, verily one fifth is assisned to Allah and the
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peace & greetings to you guys as well
yes 841 would be talking about spoils of war
however, we note other verses to give from what God has provided us, and not to hoard or be stingy....
By doing this, there would readily be available money around...however, Annual Taxation would not be religiously compulsory.
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We should institute a zero percent tax on everything.