72 virgins
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The most important 'hoor' is actually mentioned in the Bible
Rev 219 Then one of the seven angels ... talked with me, saying, "Come, I will show you the bride, the Lamb's wife."
Rev 2110 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Rev 2111 having the glory of God. Her light like a most precious stone, like a jasper stone, clear as crystal.
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Rev 2116 The city is laid out as a square; its length is as great as its breadth. And he measured the city with the reed twelve thousand furlongs. Its length, breadth, and height are equal.This bride or 'hoor' is actually a figure for the city Jerusalem which is a perfect cube. The perfect cube represents the Holy of Holies in the Temple (it also was a perfect cube) in which the glory of God (=Light of Allah) shone.
This symbolism is very common in a Jewish Christian work written about 100AD we read, "The woman whom you saw is Zion, which you now behold as a city being built" (2 Esdras 1044)
It is in this context that the 'hoori' of the Quran and hadith need to be interpreted.
Richard
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Salaam sister sun
I read somewhere i dont remember the fountain well but i can research again if you want, that Huris are not female but male genre, so that old idea of virgin females for man i think its just hadith adaption, Huris i think mean purest not virgin.. but im no arabyk fluent so someone here will explain you better than i
So the sentences describing the houri are all mistranslated?
Like
In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched 5556
Whom no man or Jinn before them has touched 5572-74
Then We have made them virgins 5636 -
Just found a rather interesting reference to Jesus sleeping with 5 virgins
And ye shall be like the wise virgins which watched and slept not, but went forth unto the lord into the bridechamber ...
He said unto us The five wise are Faith and Love and Grace and Peace and Hope. Now they of the faithful which possess this (these) shall be guides unto them that have believed on me and on him that sent me. For I am the Lord and I am the bridegroom whom they have received, and they have entered in to the house of the bridegroom and are laid down with me in the bridal chamber rejoicing.para 43, EPISTLE OF THE APOSTLES
http//www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/apostolorum.htmlHowever with names like "Faith and Love and Grace and Peace and Hope" it is clearly not literal. Just to further clarify the non-literal interpretation of the hoori.
Richard
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Richard,
I do recall in an angelology class the distinct mention of 72 virtues.. which were ancient angel names/attributes of God. The Kabbalists also cling to this 72 with a way of contact and such. Interested on getting your perspective on this. Odd that this number 72 is found in older texts but as virtues not virgins.
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in 55.56
55.72-74It is not speaking about no males having touched anybody, it speaks about human beings, it is not man as opposed to woman, but human being. It is addressing the inhabitants of paradise, female and male alike also in 56-36.
Abkar does not need to be virgin, the meaning of the root and of the word itself is wider than that. Virgin is just a choice of meaning, not the obligated option.
The understanding of these ayas and the subsequent translations are very much culturally shaped.
Salaam