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    cleanfox5982
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    salam

    This is a etymology study to show the connections / the origin of the words and the meanings in English/french Latin language .

    For the people who are aware about comparative linguistics as you know most of universities and academic researchers in that field and other related fields ( especially anthropology ) admit officially that the origin of Latin language is Sanskrit and they classify their language as "The Indo-European languages"

    http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_languages

    What i think personally is that this classification has been done attentionally to hide the origin of these languages and especially to hide the origin of languages and where was it developed first.

    The etymology study of the words below show a Claire link between these languages and the Claire Arabic tongue

    English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

    Justice / just / kastass "kasst" and "kasstass " in arabic mean to judge with justice (&#1591 { } . .

    report / rabt / rabett rabt mean attach or link something to stgh

    call / kol/ kawl kol in arabic mean say , kawl mean speech

    demagogy / damagha / dimagh diamagh mean brain in arabic , damagha mean hit someone in his head , at the intelectual level it mean use clear evidence and proof to distruct the falsehood 2118 No, We cast with the truth upon the falsehood, so it disrupts it, and then it retreats. And woe to you for what you have described. (&#1594 . . .

    pedagogy / badaa / Badaah (&#1593 .badaa mean to start something nobody has done it befor you

    idea / id?e / idiology hady Hady" or " hoda" in arabic is a collection of knoledge /syst?me / behaviours that lead to something "

    harmfull / harrama / haram harrama mean to forbid , the english meaning of harmfull is smtg that hurts , hurting is forbiding so they linked it to harmfull (&#1605 . . { }

    Home / House / / hawmah / houch in some arabic dailect hawma is the area wher someone live , also hawch (&#1605 * (&#1588

    afraid aafrith in most folk tales poeple tell some scary stories about aafarit , they mean what is translated in englisg as demon or devils

    Angel / / al ginn angel is simply deformed spelling of al jinn , the arabic root of the 2 letters J/N is hide or hidden (&#1606 . .

    England / Angleterre al ginn angel-land angle-terre mean the lande of angels mean the land of al jinn

    Insane / / insan Al insan is a" human" with wrong / bad caracters behaviours he is trangressing despairing etc in English insane mean crazy apparently the meaning is very linked.

    Rational / rass "rass in arabic mean head , being rational mean using your head ? (&#1587 .
    .
    "

    Act / aakd "aakd" in arabic mean a contract document in french the document of marriage is called " act de marriage "

    Direct tarek "tarek mean road in arabic dailect , tarek is coming at night or knock at the door (&#1602 () .
    . . "

    Holy Al aaley " al aaley " is the Most High

    Comunity kawm kawm is comunity in arabic

    to be continued

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      Jafar
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      What i think personally is that this classification has been done attentionally to hide the origin of these languages and especially to hide the origin of languages and where was it developed first.

      Yeah.. another 'conspiracy' motive...
      So where do you think it was developed first? YEMEN???

      Salam / Peace

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        English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

        capitalisme / / kabd / kabadah / kabd mean hold tight , 967 The hypocrite males and the hypocrite females, they are to each other. They order vice and prohibit good, and they close their hands.) mean they keep money in their pockets and they do not spend the extra for the needy and the poor ( ) .
        . .

        empire / emperor / emarah / amer emarah in Arabic is a territory ruled by a amer ( prince) , in the arabic tangue the word amer simply mean someone who is responsible for el Amer " the order " or " the command " in this command or order is under consultancy between the whole community or their representatives , the concept of "Amer" becoming a prince is developed during the Omayyad Abbasid era .
        459 O you who believe, obey God and obey the messenger and those in authority among you ( ouly al amer / Emperors ). But if you dispute in any matter, then you shall refer it to God and His messenger if you believe in God and the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for knowing.

        Manage / management / manager / / / nahaja / nahj / manhaj / menhaj "nahaja" mean to show me the road or the path / "menhaj" mean the way or the structure or the manner ( ) . . . . . 548 And We have sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between your hands of the Book and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure.(menhaja / / structure ).

        straight / street / / sart / seratt / satr "satr " mean to write in dialect mean straight line , "seratt " mean the parth or the road or the way . ( ) . ( ) .
        16 Guide us to the straight path.

        History/ story / Histoire / / assater / satara / mastour "satara " mean write , " assater " mean the stories and telling of the past. ( ) . . . 681 N, the pen, and what they write "yastoroun". . 255 And they said "Fictional tales "assater"of old! He wrote them down while they were being dictated to him morning and evening."

        Police / politics / / bals / abliss / moblissoun "bls " mean confined / restricted in movement. 4375 It will not be removed from them; they will be confined therein. . Abliss is the personified name of "satan / alchaytan /. 234 And We said to the angels "Yield to Adam," so they yielded except for "Abliss " , he refused and became arrogant, and became of the rejecters. " . .
        ( ) .
        . .

        gendarmes/ gendarmerie / jond / jonoud "jond " jound mean military forces .3628 And We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the heaven; for there was no need to send them down.. . ( ) . . please note that the english and the arabic word gendarmey/ jound / does conatin the word" jinn " .

        language/ langue / logo / logic / / lagha / laghw / loghah "laghw" mean a not valuable speech not authentic , loghah mean language in modern arabic but in the original arabic is not considered as a language its a" tangue /lissan " the different between "lissan / tangue " and " language / loghah " is that language is based under no phonetic rules , "lissan tongue
        / " is based through phonetic orders and phonetic meanings structured in a objective order.

        ...to be continued ...

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          English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

          capitalisme / / kabd / kabadah / kabd mean hold tight , 967 The hypocrite males and the hypocrite females, they are to each other. They order vice and prohibit good, and they close their hands.) mean they keep money in their pockets and they do not spend the extra for the needy and the poor ( ) .
          . .

          empire / emperor / emarah / amer emarah in Arabic is a territory ruled by a amer ( prince) , in the arabic tangue the word amer simply mean someone who is responsible for el Amer " the order " or " the command " in this command or order is under consultancy between the whole community or their representatives , the concept of "Amer" becoming a prince is developed during the Omayyad Abbasid era .
          459 O you who believe, obey God and obey the messenger and those in authority among you ( ouly al amer / Emperors ). But if you dispute in any matter, then you shall refer it to God and His messenger if you believe in God and the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for knowing.

          Manage / management / manager / / / nahaja / nahj / manhaj / menhaj "nahaja" mean to show me the road or the path / "menhaj" mean the way or the structure or the manner ( ) . . . . . 548 And We have sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between your hands of the Book and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure.(menhaja / / structure ).

          straight / street / / sart / seratt / satr "satr " mean to write in dialect mean straight line , "seratt " mean the parth or the road or the way . ( ) . ( ) .
          16 Guide us to the straight path.

          History/ story / Histoire / / assater / satara / mastour "satara " mean write , " assater " mean the stories and telling of the past. ( ) . . . 681 N, the pen, and what they write "yastoroun". . 255 And they said "Fictional tales "assater"of old! He wrote them down while they were being dictated to him morning and evening."

          Police / politics / / bals / abliss / moblissoun "bls " mean confined / restricted in movement. 4375 It will not be removed from them; they will be confined therein. . Abliss is the personified name of "satan / alchaytan /. 234 And We said to the angels "Yield to Adam," so they yielded except for "Abliss " , he refused and became arrogant, and became of the rejecters. " . .
          ( ) .
          . .

          gendarmes/ gendarmerie / jond / jonoud "jond " jound mean military forces .3628 And We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the heaven; for there was no need to send them down.. . ( ) . . please note that the english and the arabic word gendarmey/ jound / does conatin the word" jinn " .

          language/ langue / logo / logic / / lagha / laghw / loghah "laghw" mean a not valuable speech not authentic , loghah mean language in modern arabic but in the original arabic is not considered as a language its a" tangue /lissan " the different between "lissan / tangue " and " language / loghah " is that language is based under no phonetic rules , "lissan tongue
          / " is based through phonetic orders and phonetic meanings structured in a objective order.

          ...to be continued ...

          This is a proof th

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            This is a proof th

            i saw some of your etymology studies , well done.

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              English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

              Think / thinking / / than / althan / yathonoun "than" mean thinking or thought or conceive .

              guide / guideance / / kod / kawad / kaied / "kod" some of the using of this word mean to guide , "kaied " is a leader of community a sort of guide .( ) . . . . . . .

              observe / observation / / basar / absara / absar "absara " mean to see things deeply in your heart , "basar" mean sight . 2096 He said "I noticed (basart)what they did not notice, so I took a handful from where the messenger was standing, and I cast it in. This is what my soul inspired me to do." .
              ( ) ; . .

              . . . . .

              National / nation / nationalism annas " annas" are people

              Trade taradi " taradi" mean agreement , admission .
              (taradi) .
              429 O you who believe, do not consume your money between you unjustly, unless it is through a trade which is mutually agreed by you. And do not kill yourselves; God is Merciful towards you.

              summit / / / sama / samaa / sami " sama" mean become above or higher . ( ) . . .

              Model / metal " metal mean example , model

              earth alard " alard " is the earth

              energy annar " annar " is fire

              credit kard " kard " mean credit

              unique anik " anik" mean very elegant

              courage konrajol kounrajol mean be a man , mean have courage .

              up al ab " ala ab" mean the father

              down / doun / dounia / " dounia " mean the lowest

              excellent ahssant " ahssant " mean well done , excellent .

              kill katl " katl " mean to kill

              defence difaa "difaa" mean defence

              satisfied / istafadah / astafad stafad mean getting the profit from something

              baby / happy / hope / / habibi / hob / hoby " hob " mean my love , hoby mean my love , habibi mean my loving

              complet kamel " kamel " mean complet

              secret serr "serr" mean secret

              arkeology arrk " arrk" mean veins or the root of something

              get laket " laket" mean find

              Murangue / la marinade marak " marak" marak mean the sauce.

              garden jardah " jardah" is garden in some arabic dialect .

              bright bark " bark" is lightning

              tall tol " tol" mean length

              etc......

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                Very interesting! Thank you.

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                  Slaamm

                  Well maybe you will not understand many of these words but they are all from Arab/berber/MORish origin in the Portuguese Language still in use today and ive been searching around and i would say we got more than 3000 words From arab/berber or words they brought from orient to us.
                  YEs we are from Europe but our lifestyle is more like North Africa. sun

                  • A?afate (assafat, cesta)
                  • A?afr?o (azzafaran, amarelo)
                  • Ac?quia (assekyah, ribeiro de rega)
                  • Achaque (ashshaka, enfermidade)
                  • Acicate (ashshukat, espinho)
                  • A?oite (assaut)
                  • A?orda (athurda, sopa de p?o)
                  • A?oteia (assutaiha)
                  • A?ougue (assuk)
                  • A?ucena (assusana)
                  • A?ude (assudd)
                  • A??car (assukar deriva do S?nscrito ?arkara, gr?os de areia)
                  • Adarga (addarka, escudo)
                  • Aduana (addwana)
                  • Al? (al + il?h, divindade)
                  • Alab?o (allabban, que d? muito leite)
                  • Alambique
                  • Alarife (alarif, s?bio, mestre de obras)
                  • Alarve (al+ A'?rab, os ?rabes bedu?nos)
                  • Alaz?o al-Hi??n Cavalo
                  • Albarda (albarda'a)
                  • Albardar (albarda'a)
                  • Albornoz (Al'burnus, capa usada pelos Berberes)
                  • Alc??ova (alkasaba, a zona administrativa de um castelo)
                  • Alcachofra (Alkharshof, fruto do cardo manso)
                  • Alcaide (alkaid, chefe)
                  • Alcaidaria (alkaid, chefe)
                  • Alcaiote (alkawwad)
                  • Alcal?ide (palavra composta ?rab. alcali + Grego e?dos, forma)
                  • Alcaravia (alkarawiya)
                  • Alcaraviz (alkarab?s)
                  • Alcateia (alkataia, rebanho)
                  • Alcatifa (alkatifa)
                  • Alcatruz (alkadus palavra composta ?rab. al + Grego k?dos, jarro para ?gua ou vinho)
                  • Alcavala (alkabala, tributo)
                  • Alcofa (alkuffa, cesto)
                  • ?lcool (alkohul, coisa subtil)
                  • Alcor?o (Alkuran, a leitura)
                  • Alcova (al-qabu, quarto lateral)
                  • Alecrim (aliklil)
                  • Aletria (Axxa'riyaalitr?ya)
                  • Alface al-kha? (veio a substituir o latim lactuca, leitosa, leitu?a, leituga, que por sua vez, derivou o fr. Laitue, o esp. Lechuga , o it. Lattuga e o ing. Lettuce)
                  • Alfafa al-H?fa
                  • Alfaia
                  • Alfaiate al-khayy?t
                  • Alf?ndega alfunduq
                  • Alfanje al-Hanx serpente
                  • Alfaraz al-faras cavalo ou ?gua
                  • Alfarela
                  • Alfarr?bio
                  • Alfarrabista do nome do fil?sofo mu?ulmano al-F?r?b? que possuia e leia muitos livros.
                  • Alfarrobaal-Kharrub. fruto e ?rvore
                  • Alfarrobeira
                  • Alfavaca al-hab?qa vaso onde se semeia a planta de al-habaq i.?. erva cedreira ? (n?o ? erva cidreira, al-habaq ? manjeric?o)
                  • Alfazemaal-khuz?ma
                  • Alfeire
                  • Alferes (alfaris, cavaleiro)
                  • Alfobre (alhufra, rego?)
                  • Alforge (alhurj, sacola)
                  • Alforria (palavra composta?rab.al + Franc?s feurre, livre) seria simplesmente a palavra ?rabe al-hurriya (a liberdade da qual temos forro hurr libre)
                  • Algarismo (alkawarizmi, nome do matem?tico ?rabe Abu Ibn Mu?a)
                  • ?lgebra
                  • Algema (aljami'a, pulseira)
                  • Algeroz (azzurub ???, canal)al-kharruj, aquele que faz sair
                  • Algibeira (al-jab?ra, bolso)
                  • Algod?o (alkutun)
                  • Algodoeiro
                  • Algoritmo
                  • Alguidar (alqidr, escudela de barro)
                  • Algoz (al-gozz, membro de uma tribo que recrutava carrascos)
                  • Alicate (allikk?t, tenaz)
                  • Aljama (aljamaa, reuni?o)
                  • Aljava (aljaba)
                  • Almadrava (almadraba)
                  • Almanaque (almanakh)
                  • Almedina (almedina, a cidade)
                  • Alm?adaos almohadas dinastia maghrebina que governou ente 1145 e 1260 o Maghreb e o al-Andalus
                  • Almocreve (almukari,alugar bestas)
                  • Almofada (almukhadda de khadd, face)
                  • Almofariz
                  • Almofate (almikhyat, agulha, sovela)
                  • Almofre
                  • Almog?var (almugauar, guerreiro)
                  • Alm?ndega (albundeca, avel??) tipo de papa preparada a base de cereais que se comia misturada com gordura (azeite ou manteiga)
                  • Almor?vida (almurabit)
                  • Almotac? (almuhtasib, mestre de aferi??o)
                  • Almotolia (almutli)
                  • Almoxarifado
                  • Almoxarife
                  • Almude unidade de peso
                  • Alqueireal-keil unidade de peso para cereais
                  • Alqueive
                  • Alvanel
                  • Alvar? al-bar?'a carta de autoriza??o
                  • Alvazil al-waz?r ministro
                  • Alveitar ?vetener?rio ou
                  • Alvitana
                  • Alv?ssaras
                  • Alvorge
                  • Armaz?m al-Makhzan
                  • Arr?tel ritl unidade de peso
                  • Arroba unidade de peso
                  • Arrozarruzz
                  • Arsenal tars?na
                  • Atafal
                  • Atafona moinho
                  • Atalaia attal?'a torre de vigia localizada, fora das localidades, num s?tio alto.
                  • Auge Auj'(o topo; ?ptimo)
                  • Azar azzahr (sorte)
                  • Azeite (substitui ?leo, ?leo de oliva)
                  • Azeitona (substitui o latim oliva)
                  • Azemelquem aluga os animais de carga
                  • Az?mola animal de carga
                  • Azimute assimt (? a marca??o em graus da posi??o de um astro no horizonte, medido do polo ao equador )
                  • Azenha moinho de roda movido por ?gua
                  • Azinhaga
                  • Azulal-lzaward (empr?stimo ?rabe do persa ljward, lat. lapis lazuli, a pedra lazurita)
                  • Azulejoal-zuleij (pedra pintada)

                  B

                  • Bafaf? bafaf (bolo)
                  • Bara?o
                  • Bolota

                  C

                  • Caf?]]
                  • C?fila
                  • Califa
                  • Califado
                  • Cartaz
                  • Ceifa
                  • Ceroulas (sarawil)
                  • Chafariz
                  • Cherne
                  • Chifra
                  • Cifra
                  • Cotovia (al-kutubia, a livraria)

                  D

                  • Damasco

                  E

                  • Elixir('Al-Axir&#039
                  • Emir ('Amir&#039
                  • Emirato (Emirado)
                  • Escabeche ('Sikbaj&#039
                  • Esmeralda (zum?rrud)

                  F

                  • Falua (faluka)
                  • Fat?mida
                  • Fulano (Flan)

                  G

                  • Garrafa (karaf?, frasco bojudo)

                  H

                  • Har?m ('Harim&#039
                  • Haxixe ('Hashish';maconha)

                  I

                  • Im? (imam, guia)
                  • Isl?o (Isl?, Islame)

                  J

                  • Javali (jabali)

                  L

                  • Laranja (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
                  • Laranjeira (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
                  • Lez?ria (al-jaza'ir, ilhas)
                  • Lim?o (laimun deriva do Persa limun)
                  • Limoeiro (laimun deriva do Persa limun)

                  M

                  • Madra?al (madra?a, escola)
                  • Magazine
                  • Marabuto Mur?bit santo que se dedica ao rib?t i.? ? guerra santa ou ? vida religiosa dentro de um rib?t (local de medita??o religiosa ou de fronteira para proteger as terras do Isl?o)
                  • Masmorra (matmura, celeiro subterr?neo)
                  • Matraca (mitraka)
                  • Mesquita (masdjid)
                  • Mo??rabe (must'rib, arabizado)
                  • Mud?jar (mudajjan, o que fica morando)
                  • Muezim Muazzin respons?vel pelos chamamentos ?s ora??es can?nicas.
                  • Maom? (original Muhammad. Tamb?m Maomet. Outrora Maomede, Mafoma, Mafamede)
                  • Muladi muallad crist?o da Pen?nsula ib?rica convertido ao Isl?o (malado)

                  N

                  • Nadir (natir, oposto, proje??o na esfera celeste inferior)
                  • Nora (na'?ra)

                  O

                  • Om?ada
                  • Oxal? (in sha allah ou inshallah, se Deus quiser)

                  P

                  • Papagaio (babaga)

                  R

                  • Ramad?o
                  • R?s
                  • Resma

                  S

                  • S?faro (sahra', deserto)
                  • Safra (safaria, esta??o da colheita)
                  • Salamaleque (as-salam-alaik, a paz seja contigo)
                  • Saloio (?ahroi, do campo)
                  • Sultanato (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
                  • Sult?o (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
                  • Sura

                  T

                  • Tambor (tanbur deriva do Persa d?nb?ra, c?tara)

                  X

                  • Xadrez (xatranj deriva do S?nscrito xaturanga, que consta de quatro membros)
                  • Xarope (sharab, bebida, po??o)
                  • Xaveco (xabbak, pequeno navio de tr?s mastros e velas latinas)
                  • Xerife
                  • Xeque
                  • Xeque-mate

                  Z

                  • Zarabatana (zarba t?n?)
                  • Z?nite (samt, direc??o da cabe?a, caminho, proje??o na esfera celeste)

                  NAMES OF CITYES PLACES

                  Top?nimos de origem ARab/Berber Albarraque (Albarrak, ou o brilhante), Albufeira (Albuhaira, ou a pequena barragem), Alc?cer (Alqassr, ou o castelo), Alc??ovas (Alqassba, ou a cidadela fortificada), Alcaidaria (a chefia), Alcaide (o chefe), Alcains (Alkanissa, ou a igreja), Alc?ntara (a ponte), Alcantarilha (diminutivo de Alc?ntara), Alcaria (a aldeia), Alcoba?a (Alkubasha, ou os carneiros), Alcochete (Alqucha, ou o forno), Alcoentre (Alqunaitara, ou a ponte pequena), Alfama (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Alfambras (Alhamra, ou a vermelha), Alfarim (Alfarish, ou corte de floresta, no sentido de industria madeireira), Alfarrobeira (Alharruba, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Alferce (a picareta), Algarve (Algharb, ou o Ocidente), Algeruz (o canal), Alg?s (Aljaich, ou o ex?rcito), Algueir?o (Aljairan, ou as grutas), Alhandra (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Aljezur (Aljazair, ou as ilhas), Almacave (Almaqabara, ou os cemit?rios), Almada (Almadin, ou a mina), Almansil (a estalagem), Almargem (Almarjan, ou o prado), Almedina (a cidade), Almo?ageme (Almassjid, ou a mesquita), Almod?var (Almudura, ou o cercado redondo), Alqueid?o (Alhaima, ou a tenda), Alvai?zere (Albaiaz, ou o falcoeiro), Alvalade (Albalad, ou o campo), Alverca (Albirka, ou o p?ntano), Alvor (Albir, ou o po?o), Alvorge (Alburj, ou a torre), Arr?bida (lugar de ora??o), Asseca (caminho recto e plano), Atalaia (lugar alto de onde se exerce vigil?ncia), Azambuja (o zambujeiro), Azeit?o (zona de produ??o de azeite), Az?ia (Azauia, ou lugar de ora??o), Bensafrim (Ben Safarin, ou lugar dos feiticeiros), Bobadela (Bu abdallah, ou filho do escravo de Deus), Boliqueime (Bu Alhakim, nome pr?prio), Cac?m (nome pr?prio, que significa aquele que testemunha), Cane?as (Kanissa, ou igreja), Cuba (pequena torre), Faro (Harun, nome pr?prio), F?tima (nome da filha do Profeta Muhammad), Loul? (Al?ulia, ou a alta), Mafamude (Mahmmud, nome do Profeta), Mafra (Mahfra, ou cova), Malhada (lugar de travessia de um rio), Marv?o (Marwan, nome pr?prio), Massam? (Maktam?, ou nascente de ?gua), Mesquita (Massjid, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Messejana (pris?o), Odemira (Ued Amira, ou rio da princesa), Palmela (Bismillah, ou em nome de Deus), Queluz (vale da amendoeira), Safara (Sahara, ou deserta), Salema (Salama, ou paz).

                  Sorry if soemeone wnat transelations i can provide ,D just pm to me

                  SALAAM TO ALL , nice topic indeed.. sun

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                    Slaamm

                    Well maybe you will not understand many of these words but they are all from Arab/berber/MORish origin in the Portuguese Language still in use today and ive been searching around and i would say we got more than 3000 words From arab/berber or words they brought from orient to us.
                    YEs we are from Europe but our lifestyle is more like North Africa. sun

                    • A?afate (assafat, cesta)
                    • A?afr?o (azzafaran, amarelo)
                    • Ac?quia (assekyah, ribeiro de rega)
                    • Achaque (ashshaka, enfermidade)
                    • Acicate (ashshukat, espinho)
                    • A?oite (assaut)
                    • A?orda (athurda, sopa de p?o)
                    • A?oteia (assutaiha)
                    • A?ougue (assuk)
                    • A?ucena (assusana)
                    • A?ude (assudd)
                    • A??car (assukar deriva do S?nscrito ?arkara, gr?os de areia)
                    • Adarga (addarka, escudo)
                    • Aduana (addwana)
                    • Al? (al + il?h, divindade)
                    • Alab?o (allabban, que d? muito leite)
                    • Alambique
                    • Alarife (alarif, s?bio, mestre de obras)
                    • Alarve (al+ A'?rab, os ?rabes bedu?nos)
                    • Alaz?o al-Hi??n Cavalo
                    • Albarda (albarda'a)
                    • Albardar (albarda'a)
                    • Albornoz (Al'burnus, capa usada pelos Berberes)
                    • Alc??ova (alkasaba, a zona administrativa de um castelo)
                    • Alcachofra (Alkharshof, fruto do cardo manso)
                    • Alcaide (alkaid, chefe)
                    • Alcaidaria (alkaid, chefe)
                    • Alcaiote (alkawwad)
                    • Alcal?ide (palavra composta ?rab. alcali + Grego e?dos, forma)
                    • Alcaravia (alkarawiya)
                    • Alcaraviz (alkarab?s)
                    • Alcateia (alkataia, rebanho)
                    • Alcatifa (alkatifa)
                    • Alcatruz (alkadus palavra composta ?rab. al + Grego k?dos, jarro para ?gua ou vinho)
                    • Alcavala (alkabala, tributo)
                    • Alcofa (alkuffa, cesto)
                    • ?lcool (alkohul, coisa subtil)
                    • Alcor?o (Alkuran, a leitura)
                    • Alcova (al-qabu, quarto lateral)
                    • Alecrim (aliklil)
                    • Aletria (Axxa'riyaalitr?ya)
                    • Alface al-kha? (veio a substituir o latim lactuca, leitosa, leitu?a, leituga, que por sua vez, derivou o fr. Laitue, o esp. Lechuga , o it. Lattuga e o ing. Lettuce)
                    • Alfafa al-H?fa
                    • Alfaia
                    • Alfaiate al-khayy?t
                    • Alf?ndega alfunduq
                    • Alfanje al-Hanx serpente
                    • Alfaraz al-faras cavalo ou ?gua
                    • Alfarela
                    • Alfarr?bio
                    • Alfarrabista do nome do fil?sofo mu?ulmano al-F?r?b? que possuia e leia muitos livros.
                    • Alfarrobaal-Kharrub. fruto e ?rvore
                    • Alfarrobeira
                    • Alfavaca al-hab?qa vaso onde se semeia a planta de al-habaq i.?. erva cedreira ? (n?o ? erva cidreira, al-habaq ? manjeric?o)
                    • Alfazemaal-khuz?ma
                    • Alfeire
                    • Alferes (alfaris, cavaleiro)
                    • Alfobre (alhufra, rego?)
                    • Alforge (alhurj, sacola)
                    • Alforria (palavra composta?rab.al + Franc?s feurre, livre) seria simplesmente a palavra ?rabe al-hurriya (a liberdade da qual temos forro hurr libre)
                    • Algarismo (alkawarizmi, nome do matem?tico ?rabe Abu Ibn Mu?a)
                    • ?lgebra
                    • Algema (aljami'a, pulseira)
                    • Algeroz (azzurub ???, canal)al-kharruj, aquele que faz sair
                    • Algibeira (al-jab?ra, bolso)
                    • Algod?o (alkutun)
                    • Algodoeiro
                    • Algoritmo
                    • Alguidar (alqidr, escudela de barro)
                    • Algoz (al-gozz, membro de uma tribo que recrutava carrascos)
                    • Alicate (allikk?t, tenaz)
                    • Aljama (aljamaa, reuni?o)
                    • Aljava (aljaba)
                    • Almadrava (almadraba)
                    • Almanaque (almanakh)
                    • Almedina (almedina, a cidade)
                    • Alm?adaos almohadas dinastia maghrebina que governou ente 1145 e 1260 o Maghreb e o al-Andalus
                    • Almocreve (almukari,alugar bestas)
                    • Almofada (almukhadda de khadd, face)
                    • Almofariz
                    • Almofate (almikhyat, agulha, sovela)
                    • Almofre
                    • Almog?var (almugauar, guerreiro)
                    • Alm?ndega (albundeca, avel??) tipo de papa preparada a base de cereais que se comia misturada com gordura (azeite ou manteiga)
                    • Almor?vida (almurabit)
                    • Almotac? (almuhtasib, mestre de aferi??o)
                    • Almotolia (almutli)
                    • Almoxarifado
                    • Almoxarife
                    • Almude unidade de peso
                    • Alqueireal-keil unidade de peso para cereais
                    • Alqueive
                    • Alvanel
                    • Alvar? al-bar?'a carta de autoriza??o
                    • Alvazil al-waz?r ministro
                    • Alveitar ?vetener?rio ou
                    • Alvitana
                    • Alv?ssaras
                    • Alvorge
                    • Armaz?m al-Makhzan
                    • Arr?tel ritl unidade de peso
                    • Arroba unidade de peso
                    • Arrozarruzz
                    • Arsenal tars?na
                    • Atafal
                    • Atafona moinho
                    • Atalaia attal?'a torre de vigia localizada, fora das localidades, num s?tio alto.
                    • Auge Auj'(o topo; ?ptimo)
                    • Azar azzahr (sorte)
                    • Azeite (substitui ?leo, ?leo de oliva)
                    • Azeitona (substitui o latim oliva)
                    • Azemelquem aluga os animais de carga
                    • Az?mola animal de carga
                    • Azimute assimt (? a marca??o em graus da posi??o de um astro no horizonte, medido do polo ao equador )
                    • Azenha moinho de roda movido por ?gua
                    • Azinhaga
                    • Azulal-lzaward (empr?stimo ?rabe do persa ljward, lat. lapis lazuli, a pedra lazurita)
                    • Azulejoal-zuleij (pedra pintada)

                    B

                    • Bafaf? bafaf (bolo)
                    • Bara?o
                    • Bolota

                    C

                    • Caf?]]
                    • C?fila
                    • Califa
                    • Califado
                    • Cartaz
                    • Ceifa
                    • Ceroulas (sarawil)
                    • Chafariz
                    • Cherne
                    • Chifra
                    • Cifra
                    • Cotovia (al-kutubia, a livraria)

                    D

                    • Damasco

                    E

                    • Elixir('Al-Axir&#039
                    • Emir ('Amir&#039
                    • Emirato (Emirado)
                    • Escabeche ('Sikbaj&#039
                    • Esmeralda (zum?rrud)

                    F

                    • Falua (faluka)
                    • Fat?mida
                    • Fulano (Flan)

                    G

                    • Garrafa (karaf?, frasco bojudo)

                    H

                    • Har?m ('Harim&#039
                    • Haxixe ('Hashish';maconha)

                    I

                    • Im? (imam, guia)
                    • Isl?o (Isl?, Islame)

                    J

                    • Javali (jabali)

                    L

                    • Laranja (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
                    • Laranjeira (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
                    • Lez?ria (al-jaza'ir, ilhas)
                    • Lim?o (laimun deriva do Persa limun)
                    • Limoeiro (laimun deriva do Persa limun)

                    M

                    • Madra?al (madra?a, escola)
                    • Magazine
                    • Marabuto Mur?bit santo que se dedica ao rib?t i.? ? guerra santa ou ? vida religiosa dentro de um rib?t (local de medita??o religiosa ou de fronteira para proteger as terras do Isl?o)
                    • Masmorra (matmura, celeiro subterr?neo)
                    • Matraca (mitraka)
                    • Mesquita (masdjid)
                    • Mo??rabe (must'rib, arabizado)
                    • Mud?jar (mudajjan, o que fica morando)
                    • Muezim Muazzin respons?vel pelos chamamentos ?s ora??es can?nicas.
                    • Maom? (original Muhammad. Tamb?m Maomet. Outrora Maomede, Mafoma, Mafamede)
                    • Muladi muallad crist?o da Pen?nsula ib?rica convertido ao Isl?o (malado)

                    N

                    • Nadir (natir, oposto, proje??o na esfera celeste inferior)
                    • Nora (na'?ra)

                    O

                    • Om?ada
                    • Oxal? (in sha allah ou inshallah, se Deus quiser)

                    P

                    • Papagaio (babaga)

                    R

                    • Ramad?o
                    • R?s
                    • Resma

                    S

                    • S?faro (sahra', deserto)
                    • Safra (safaria, esta??o da colheita)
                    • Salamaleque (as-salam-alaik, a paz seja contigo)
                    • Saloio (?ahroi, do campo)
                    • Sultanato (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
                    • Sult?o (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
                    • Sura

                    T

                    • Tambor (tanbur deriva do Persa d?nb?ra, c?tara)

                    X

                    • Xadrez (xatranj deriva do S?nscrito xaturanga, que consta de quatro membros)
                    • Xarope (sharab, bebida, po??o)
                    • Xaveco (xabbak, pequeno navio de tr?s mastros e velas latinas)
                    • Xerife
                    • Xeque
                    • Xeque-mate

                    Z

                    • Zarabatana (zarba t?n?)
                    • Z?nite (samt, direc??o da cabe?a, caminho, proje??o na esfera celeste)

                    NAMES OF CITYES PLACES

                    Top?nimos de origem ARab/Berber Albarraque (Albarrak, ou o brilhante), Albufeira (Albuhaira, ou a pequena barragem), Alc?cer (Alqassr, ou o castelo), Alc??ovas (Alqassba, ou a cidadela fortificada), Alcaidaria (a chefia), Alcaide (o chefe), Alcains (Alkanissa, ou a igreja), Alc?ntara (a ponte), Alcantarilha (diminutivo de Alc?ntara), Alcaria (a aldeia), Alcoba?a (Alkubasha, ou os carneiros), Alcochete (Alqucha, ou o forno), Alcoentre (Alqunaitara, ou a ponte pequena), Alfama (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Alfambras (Alhamra, ou a vermelha), Alfarim (Alfarish, ou corte de floresta, no sentido de industria madeireira), Alfarrobeira (Alharruba, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Alferce (a picareta), Algarve (Algharb, ou o Ocidente), Algeruz (o canal), Alg?s (Aljaich, ou o ex?rcito), Algueir?o (Aljairan, ou as grutas), Alhandra (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Aljezur (Aljazair, ou as ilhas), Almacave (Almaqabara, ou os cemit?rios), Almada (Almadin, ou a mina), Almansil (a estalagem), Almargem (Almarjan, ou o prado), Almedina (a cidade), Almo?ageme (Almassjid, ou a mesquita), Almod?var (Almudura, ou o cercado redondo), Alqueid?o (Alhaima, ou a tenda), Alvai?zere (Albaiaz, ou o falcoeiro), Alvalade (Albalad, ou o campo), Alverca (Albirka, ou o p?ntano), Alvor (Albir, ou o po?o), Alvorge (Alburj, ou a torre), Arr?bida (lugar de ora??o), Asseca (caminho recto e plano), Atalaia (lugar alto de onde se exerce vigil?ncia), Azambuja (o zambujeiro), Azeit?o (zona de produ??o de azeite), Az?ia (Azauia, ou lugar de ora??o), Bensafrim (Ben Safarin, ou lugar dos feiticeiros), Bobadela (Bu abdallah, ou filho do escravo de Deus), Boliqueime (Bu Alhakim, nome pr?prio), Cac?m (nome pr?prio, que significa aquele que testemunha), Cane?as (Kanissa, ou igreja), Cuba (pequena torre), Faro (Harun, nome pr?prio), F?tima (nome da filha do Profeta Muhammad), Loul? (Al?ulia, ou a alta), Mafamude (Mahmmud, nome do Profeta), Mafra (Mahfra, ou cova), Malhada (lugar de travessia de um rio), Marv?o (Marwan, nome pr?prio), Massam? (Maktam?, ou nascente de ?gua), Mesquita (Massjid, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Messejana (pris?o), Odemira (Ued Amira, ou rio da princesa), Palmela (Bismillah, ou em nome de Deus), Queluz (vale da amendoeira), Safara (Sahara, ou deserta), Salema (Salama, ou paz).

                    Sorry if soemeone wnat transelations i can provide ,D just pm to me

                    SALAAM TO ALL , nice topic indeed.. sun

                    salam NOMAD ,

                    interesting , thx for posting this , post more plz if still , i am interested in linguistics

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                      English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

                      Technology / Technic / / atkana / atkan / takniah "Atkana " mean to made something in a perfection way

                      2788 And you see the mountains, you think they are solid, while they are passing by like the clouds. The making of God who perfected " atkana" everything. He is Expert over what you do.

                      Matter / materialism / mda / maddah " maddah" is matter "mada" mean to stretch in a deep meaning ti mean to occupy a space to become a thing , it mean also to give or to supply with things with matter

                      1720 For both groups We will bestow "nomed" from the bounty of your Lord. And the bounty of your Lord is never restricted.

                      133 And He is the One who has spread " mada" out the land, and made in it stabilizers and rivers, and all the fruits He made in pairs; the night covers the day. In that are signs for a people who think.

                      sport / / sabara / alsabr / alsabereen " Alsabr" mean patience , it mean being capable of supporting endurance this is where the word "sport" come from.

                      245 And seek help through patience"alsabr" and through the contact prayer. It is a difficult thing, but not so for the humble.

                      To Englobe / global Kalab " kalab" mean the template witch we use as shape/form for something , the same meaning as to Englobe.

                      Vito fatwa " fatwa" is statement/ announcement / declaration made by somebody to clarify something or what to do or not to do . this is the Wikipedia explanation A veto, Latin for "I forbid", is the power of an officer of the state to unilaterally stop an official action, especially enactment of a piece of legislation.
                      in the Quran its made clearly that people come to "the prophet" asking for fatwa about something the answer was 4176 They seek a "Yastaftounak/Vito" from you, say "God gives you the "youftikoum / fatwah/Vito" for those who have no descendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind. And he will inherit from her if she has no child.

                      Brain / burn / fad / fouad "fad" mean to burn ( ) . . fouad " is the place of reasoning/ thinking
                      1678 And God brought you out of the wombs of your mothers while you knew nothing. And He has made for you the hearing and the eyesight and "al afida "the brains, perhaps you would be thankful.

                      rules / r?gles / ghal / aghlal "aghlal" mean the shackles , a verse of the Quran talk about the children of Israel if they follow the coming prophet mention in their books he will take off their shackles
                      7157 "Those who follow the Gentile messenger prophet whom they find written for them in the Torah and the Gospel; he orders them to kindness, and prohibits them from vice, and he makes lawful for them the good things, and he makes unlawful for them the evil things, and he removes their burden and the shackles that are upon them.

                      these shackles are rules/laws that restrict their everyday life because of their bad deeds , a lot of things was made unlawful for them because of their behavior , so these "rules/aghlal" are a law restricting them same as shackles.

                      law/ lawyer / lawh / alwah "lawh" mean tablet . Moses recieved tablets " alwah" where the comendement was written , the commendement is simply law , the call it law becouse it was written in "tablets lawh"

                      7145 And We wrote for him on the tablets " alalwah" from all things a lesson, and detailing all things. Take it with strength and order your people to take the best from it. I will show you the abode of the wicked.

                      Build / building blat "blat" is a stage of building a wall or a house

                      ( ) .
                      . .

                      Water matter " mattar" mean rain

                      784 And We rained down upon them a rain, so see how was the punishment for the criminals.

                      ...to be continued

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                        Salam To all ,

                        This is for those who are still in doubt about the origin of English Language . I do not aim by this topic anything except comparative linguistic study.

                        While i was doing my ethological study of some Latin words , i did post some and still have more , I found while i was doing a research in linguistic lately a book with 500 English word by alphabetic order from a study of a researcher , i'll download the full book for Arabic readers later, here are by Alphabetic order

                        Letter A

                        English / Arabic root and meaning Arabic pronunciation

                        Aard Arrd
                        .

                        Aard wolf Deb Al-Arrd

                        Abet Abatta

                        .

                        Abide Abada
                        , .
                        . .

                        Abode Al-oboud
                        , .
                        .

                        Ably Abla
                        , .

                        Acclimate Yata9lam
                        .
                        .

                        Accolade Al-9ilada
                        , .
                        .

                        Accrete Al-Kharidah
                        .
                        . .

                        Aceldama Ha9l Al-dam
                        .
                        .

                        Acephalous Al-asfal
                        , .
                        " . .

                        Ache Akh
                        , .
                        " " .

                        Acid Al-shayed
                        , ,
                        .

                        Acme Al-Kemma
                        , .
                        .

                        Act Al-aa'kd
                        , .
                        .

                        Address Al-darss
                        , .
                        .

                        Adhere Al-daherr
                        , .
                        . " .

                        Adob Al-tobb
                        .
                        "

                        Aeon Hen
                        , .
                        " , .

                        Aestivate Al-estayaf

                        " "

                        Agamic Al-aa'kem
                        , .
                        . .

                        Agamogenesis Al-Ginss Al-aa'kem
                        .
                        .

                        Genesis Al-Ginss
                        .
                        .

                        Agape Aa'jab
                        ,
                        . .

                        Age Ajal
                        , .
                        . ,

                        Agile Aa'jel
                        , .
                        . .

                        Agleam Al-jalim
                        .
                        .

                        Agony Al-konouA
                        , , .
                        , . .

                        Agree Akarra
                        , .
                        . .

                        Aglow Al-jalw
                        , .
                        . , , .

                        Aggravate Akrafa
                        , .
                        .

                        Aid Ayada
                        , .
                        . ,

                        Ail Aa'la
                        .
                        .

                        Aim Amma
                        .
                        . .

                        Air Al-herr
                        .
                        . .

                        Aisl Aa'zel
                        .
                        . . .

                        Ajar Ajrr

                        . .

                        Alarm Al-aa'ram
                        , , .
                        . . .

                        Alas Al-assa
                        .
                        .

                        Allege Alaka
                        , .
                        . .

                        Alleluia Hallilou
                        .
                        .

                        Alley Allaey
                        ,
                        . " " .

                        Aloha Al-lawh
                        , .
                        .

                        Altar Al-tar
                        , .
                        . ..

                        Alumna

                        Alumnus Alaa'oloum
                        .
                        .

                        Amain Amaa'na

                        .

                        Amputate Al-batt
                        .
                        .

                        Amuse Al-mozah
                        , .
                        . .

                        Anabatic Al-nabtt

                        . .

                        Anaphase Al-Infisal
                        .
                        .

                        Anaphrodisia Al-nafrogissia
                        .
                        , . .

                        Anastigmate Al-istikama
                        .
                        .

                        Anecdote Al-nokta
                        , .
                        .

                        Anchor Al-khourr
                        ,
                        ,

                        Anemo Al-naa'mi
                        .
                        .

                        Anemograph Gharaf Al-naa'ami

                        . .

                        Anemone Al-noaa'man
                        .
                        .

                        Anger Al-naghrr
                        , .
                        . .

                        Angle Al-najl
                        , " " .
                        . , " " .

                        Anile Al-nalnal
                        ,
                        .

                        Animal Al-anaa'am
                        .
                        . al alanim .

                        Anklebone Al-bwani
                        .
                        . , .

                        Ankylose Al-9alouss
                        .
                        . . .

                        Annex Al-nakss
                        , .
                        . " " .

                        Annotate Al-nottah
                        .
                        . . . .

                        Annoy Al-naa'i
                        , , .
                        . , .

                        Anon Hala(n)
                        .
                        " N " .

                        Anosmia Al-nassima
                        .
                        , , .

                        Anoxia Al-nakssiah
                        .
                        .

                        Apace Abazza
                        .
                        . .

                        Aparega Al-barjass
                        .
                        , .

                        Ape Al-habn

                        . ,

                        Apron Al-habrr
                        , .
                        . . " .

                        Aptera Al-batrA
                        .
                        .

                        Apteral Al-abtar
                        .
                        " " .

                        Arable
                        Ara....able Aa'rA Kabel
                        ,
                        " " .
                        " " a " .

                        Arc Aa'rj
                        .
                        . " " " " .

                        Arch Aa'rj
                        ,
                        . " " . . " " . .

                        Arch or

                        Arghi Al-assli
                        , .
                        . " " , .

                        Archly Al-aa'rkab
                        , .
                        . .

                        Ardent Al-radn
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                        . , , " . " .

                        Argus Arak
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                        Arid Hard
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                        Arise Al-razn
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                        Ark Al-Harjj
                        " "

                        to be continued...Letter A

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                          Ark Al-Harjj
                          " "
                          . " " .

                          Arm Harama
                          .
                          . , . " " .

                          Arm Aa'rm
                          Infant in arm
                          .
                          . . . " " .

                          Arm Al-aa'rram
                          ,
                          . . .

                          Army Al-aa'ramram
                          .
                          . .

                          Arouse Harrada
                          , , .
                          . " " .

                          Array Arraa'
                          .
                          . " " .

                          Array Al-Harrer

                          . . . " .

                          Arrest Al-rassd
                          , .
                          . .

                          Arum Al-harm
                          .
                          . .

                          Arroyo Al-rawey
                          , .
                          . . .

                          Arson Arath

                          . . . " " .

                          Ascend Al-sanad
                          , .
                          . .

                          Ascend Al-isnad
                          .
                          . " " .

                          Asgard Askara
                          .
                          . . .

                          Asleep Al-saleeb
                          , , .
                          " " .

                          Ashamed Al-hashm
                          Ashame..
                          ,
                          . " " , . . .

                          Aspirate Al-zafeer
                          H
                          . .

                          Aspire Al-zafeer
                          , , ,
                          . . . .

                          Assail Al-shayel
                          , .
                          . . .

                          Assay aa'ssa
                          , .
                          . " " .

                          Assert Assarra

                          . " " .

                          Assort Al-sarrd
                          , .
                          . . .

                          Assure Al-shawr
                          , .
                          . . . .

                          Astern
                          Ast? AL-ist
                          , .
                          . .

                          Asylum Al-salam
                          .
                          .

                          Atlas Al-talss
                          .
                          . " " " , .

                          Atlas Al-talss
                          .
                          . . , . , " . " " . , " " " "

                          Attak Al-daa'k
                          .
                          " " .

                          Attain Al-deen
                          , .
                          " . . . .

                          Attenuate Al-danayah
                          , .
                          " " " " .

                          Attune Al-dan
                          ,
                          . " " .

                          Auabade Awabed
                          , .
                          . .

                          Audien-

                          Audient Al-Oudn
                          , .
                          . . " " .

                          Auric Al-wara9
                          , .
                          . .

                          Author Al-ather
                          , .
                          . . . .

                          Autogenesis

                          -genesis Jinss
                          .
                          " " .

                          Autogamy Aa'kem

                          -gamy
                          .
                          .

                          Ave Aa'feya
                          .
                          " " .

                          Average Al-fark
                          . .
                          . . .

                          Aweary Al-waa'r
                          , , .
                          , . . .

                          Awl Al-aa'wel
                          , .
                          , .

                          Ax , Axe A'kassa
                          .
                          .

                          Ay , Aye Aye
                          .
                          .

                          To be continued ...Letter B soon

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                            Peace Alkitab,

                            All languages by their very nature develop and interact with other languages and borrow from them. This is normal. However, what is not normal is the dogmatic belief of some Sunnis that Arabic is the origin of all languages. This is rooted in the nonsensical belief that Arabic is a divine language. This goes back to the ancient dispute about the great reading being created or uncreated. The Sunnis believe that it is uncreated and therefore they often consider its Arabic language also uncreated.

                            I will demonstrate the problems with attributing everything to Arabic through the example below where you make the common error of attempting to attribute the word "jund" to an Arabic origin

                            gendarmes/ gendarmerie / jond / jonoud "jond " jound mean military forces .3628 And We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the heaven; for there was no need to send them down.. . ( ) . . please note that the english and the arabic word gendarmey/ jound / does conatin the word" jinn " .

                            The word "jund" occurs some 29 times in the great reading in various forms. The word has no verbal root in Arabic, in other words the word "janad" doesn't exist in the Arabic language. We only find the word "jannad" (to make troops). What we find is that "jund" in fact comes from Persian where it means army or troop. First it was borrowed from Persian into Aramaic. So it either came to Arabic directly from Persian or (more probably) through Aramaic.

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

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                              Salaam

                              Seems logical, and we cant just say one word is from arab roots only by sounding/adaptation... but altought i dont bealive Creator using Persian words, while Quran is arabic... that unsenssless.. The Quran language is the "upgrade" of south Arabian dialects.. like Sabean and thamudic,etc.. dont think its persian..i bealive that persian adopted many stuff.. and then chenged in their way and invented Hadiths and so on..again, Allah knows best

                              peace pr

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                                Peace Alkitab,

                                All languages by their very nature develop and interact with other languages and borrow from them. This is normal. However, what is not normal is the dogmatic belief of some Sunnis that Arabic is the origin of all languages. This is rooted in the nonsensical belief that Arabic is a divine language. This goes back to the ancient dispute about the great reading being created or uncreated. The Sunnis believe that it is uncreated and therefore they often consider its Arabic language also uncreated.

                                I will demonstrate the problems with attributing everything to Arabic through the examplemake below where you the common error of attempting to attribute the word "jund" to an Arabic origin

                                The word "jund" occurs some 29 times in the great reading in various forms. The word has no verbal root in Arabic, in other words the word "janad" doesn't exist in the Arabic language. We only find the word "jannad" (to make troops). What we find is that "jund" in fact comes from Persian where it means army or troop. First it was borrowed from Persian into Aramaic. So it either came to Arabic directly from Persian or (more probably) through Aramaic.

                                Peace,

                                Ayman

                                Mister Aymen, I respect you a lot, and admire your sincere search of truth, but in this one, I totally agree with with what "Alkitab" posted
                                the Arabic language is as modern as english, frensh and other europeen languages, tha anciant languages are , the Quran language, maybe latin, hindu etc
                                the arabic language is inspired from the quran, and made up to alter the senses of the words , for exemple, the word ALHAMD, which is used to mean THANK , just as choukr, but inreality , when you study the word, it means something greater than that, it means the COMMAND

                                exemple, proof from the quran , the KAFIROON, responded by HAMDI of their Lord

                                • 52 -

                                The day he'll call you and you responds by his command and you will believe you rested only a little 1752

                                I give you another exemple, these people who invented languages and fabricated them when colonising the world, wanted to change the whole HISTORY , to keep controlling in the future
                                look at the word ALROOM
                                1 -

                                2 -
                                the ROOM was defeated
                                3 -
                                in the lowest land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                                4 -
                                in a few years, for Allah are the affairs from before and after, and that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                                5 -
                                With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                                When I read these verses, I ask a question, why would the mouslim be joyfull and happy, with the victory of a foreign nation, agaist another foreign nation, while they're both non muslims ? Why would Allah promiss a victory to muslims, while the victory isn't their and they have nothing to do in that war ? and the best is, why allah calls that victory of a non muslim nation, NASR ALLAH ?
                                this whole thing stink SATAN explanation in history and hadith books
                                when you study the quran alone , you get this

                                • 9 - 17 - 179

                                RAMAYT - RAMA

                                • 7 - 94 - 123

                                RIMAHA-KUM
                                therefore, Rama and rimah etc... all this together is called ARMY
                                ALROOM = ARMY, this sourah is talking about a defeat of the muslim army, and the promise was made that they will be victorious
                                here prophecy fullfilled

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                                when came the victory of Allah and triumph

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                                And when the MUMINUN saw the faderates, they said this is what been promissed to us by allah and his messenger, allah is truthfull and his messenger, and it added to them only safety and peace

                                the sourah alroom , sall be translated like this
                                1 -
                                A L M
                                2 -
                                the Army was defeated
                                3 -
                                in the lowes land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                                4 -
                                in a few years, to Allaj are the affairs from before and after, and in that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                                5 -
                                With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                                IT MAKES P?RFECT SENSE ( TO ME )vv
                                and conclusion
                                Alroom = Army , perfect match , Etymology way speaking

                                I suggest, Take in consideration that the language of the quran, is the 1st language intelligent men were inspired FROM ALLAH, at least, give a prooof that the language of the quran , is just another langue made by man , or the TONGUE inspired from the begining
                                I use to laugh at Arabs when they say Arabic is the origin of all languages, but after study, I realised that ARABS are wrong, because the quran isn't arabic language, but it contains all languages of the world

                                BY The way , JUNUD isn't persian , it simply means AGENTS , when Allah speaks of Agents we don't see, he's talking about secret agents, and not some spirits from another dimension, but men , agents

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                                  Brother loxbox13,

                                  I do agree with you on your skepticsims why would Believers be joyful when Pagan Christian Amry of Roma defates Pagan Army of Persian.

                                  You have to notice that the two parties involved in the battles are mentioned in the ayyat ( Alroom and the Believers), so the battle has to be between Alroom and the believers, the thing is that the dialectical marks are messed up, the verse should be with Fatha and not Kasra (Ghalabat Alroom=Rome Won) and NOT (Gholibat Alroom= Rome Lost).

                                  Believers are sad because Rome won over them, and Allah swt is promising believers of later victory.

                                  I believe the ayyat are talking about Muta battle where the muslim went after the ruler of Balqa killed the messenger of the prophet, Balqa is in modern day Jordan. Muslims were effectively defeated by the romans, the battle took place in year 8 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mu%27tah

                                  The Muslims retaliated and the Rome was defeated in the battle of Yarmouk in year 13 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk

                                  Mister Aymen, I respect you a lot, and admire your sincere search of truth, but in this one, I totally agree with with what "Alkitab" posted
                                  the Arabic language is as modern as english, frensh and other europeen languages, tha anciant languages are , the Quran language, maybe latin, hindu etc
                                  the arabic language is inspired from the quran, and made up to alter the senses of the words , for exemple, the word ALHAMD, which is used to mean THANK , just as choukr, but inreality , when you study the word, it means something greater than that, it means the COMMAND

                                  exemple, proof from the quran , the KAFIROON, responded by HAMDI of their Lord

                                  • 52 -

                                  The day he'll call you and you responds by his command and you will believe you rested only a little 1752

                                  I give you another exemple, these people who invented languages and fabricated them when colonising the world, wanted to change the whole HISTORY , to keep controlling in the future
                                  look at the word ALROOM
                                  1 -

                                  2 -
                                  the ROOM was defeated
                                  3 -
                                  in the lowest land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                                  4 -
                                  in a few years, for Allah are the affairs from before and after, and that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                                  5 -
                                  With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                                  When I read these verses, I ask a question, why would the mouslim be joyfull and happy, with the victory of a foreign nation, agaist another foreign nation, while they're both non muslims ? Why would Allah promiss a victory to muslims, while the victory isn't their and they have nothing to do in that war ? and the best is, why allah calls that victory of a non muslim nation, NASR ALLAH ?
                                  this whole thing stink SATAN explanation in history and hadith books
                                  when you study the quran alone , you get this

                                  • 9 - 17 - 179

                                  RAMAYT - RAMA

                                  • 7 - 94 - 123

                                  RIMAHA-KUM
                                  therefore, Rama and rimah etc... all this together is called ARMY
                                  ALROOM = ARMY, this sourah is talking about a defeat of the muslim army, and the promise was made that they will be victorious
                                  here prophecy fullfilled

                                    • 1 -

                                  when came the victory of Allah and triumph

                                    • 22 -

                                  And when the MUMINUN saw the faderates, they said this is what been promissed to us by allah and his messenger, allah is truthfull and his messenger, and it added to them only safety and peace

                                  the sourah alroom , sall be translated like this
                                  1 -
                                  A L M
                                  2 -
                                  the Army was defeated
                                  3 -
                                  in the lowes land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                                  4 -
                                  in a few years, to Allaj are the affairs from before and after, and in that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                                  5 -
                                  With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                                  IT MAKES P?RFECT SENSE ( TO ME )vv
                                  and conclusion
                                  Alroom = Army , perfect match , Etymology way speaking

                                  I suggest, Take in consideration that the language of the quran, is the 1st language intelligent men were inspired FROM ALLAH, at least, give a prooof that the language of the quran , is just another langue made by man , or the TONGUE inspired from the begining
                                  I use to laugh at Arabs when they say Arabic is the origin of all languages, but after study, I realised that ARABS are wrong, because the quran isn't arabic language, but it contains all languages of the world

                                  BY The way , JUNUD isn't persian , it simply means AGENTS , when Allah speaks of Agents we don't see, he's talking about secret agents, and not some spirits from another dimension, but men , agents

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                                    Brother loxbox13,

                                    I do agree with you on your skepticsims why would Believers be joyful when Pagan Christian Amry of Roma defates Pagan Army of Persian.

                                    You have to notice that the two parties involved in the battles are mentioned in the ayyat ( Alroom and the Believers), so the battle has to be between Alroom and the believers, the thing is that the dialectical marks are messed up, the verse should be with Fatha and not Kasra (Ghalabat Alroom=Rome Won) and NOT (Gholibat Alroom= Rome Lost).

                                    Believers are sad because Rome won over them, and Allah swt is promising believers of later victory.

                                    I believe the ayyat are talking about Muta battle where the muslim went after the ruler of Balqa killed the messenger of the prophet, Balqa is in modern day Jordan. Muslims were effectively defeated by the romans, the battle took place in year 8 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mu%27tah

                                    The Muslims retaliated and the Rome was defeated in the battle of Yarmouk in year 13 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk

                                    Excuse me brother, if you use wiki sunni history, you better changer your mind, because ROMA isn't called AROOM in, arabic, but Al ROUMAN

                                    Alroom simply means the army, it is the muslim army

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                                      Excuse me brother, if you use wiki sunni history, you better changer your mind, because ROMA isn't called AROOM in, arabic, but Al ROUMAN

                                      Alroom simply means the army, it is the muslim army

                                      Dear Brother,

                                      I am not taking wikipedia as the source of my knowledge, I simply sent you a link on wikipedia because it shows the history in Muslim eyes ( they thought they won in Mutah) but when you read it carefully they actually lost.

                                      now back to Ghalabat(won) Rome or Gholibat(lost) Rome, the verse should read like this"

                                      Rome Won, ...................................... and after that they will lose..................................... and believers will rejoice

                                      Many of tafaseer even indicates that it could be read with kasra ( Rome won), Tabari.. etc

                                      ( &#1615 .

                                      { } .

                                      ?

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                                        Dear Brother,

                                        I am not taking wikipedia as the source of my knowledge, I simply sent you a link on wikipedia because it shows the history in Muslim eyes ( they thought they won in Mutah) but when you read it carefully they actually lost.

                                        now back to Ghalabat(won) Rome or Gholibat(lost) Rome, the verse should read like this"

                                        Rome Won, ...................................... and after that they will lose..................................... and believers will rejoice

                                        Many of tafaseer even indicates that it could be read with kasra ( Rome won), Tabari.. etc

                                        ( &#1615 .

                                        { } .

                                        ?

                                        these taffasirs were made by non muslim people, to delude the muslim ummah, you still trust poeple you never knew ?

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                                          Indo-European, yes it's true what we say/joke that our language is so old that Adam spoke Albanian!

                                          http//albcc.com/indo-european_tree.jpg

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