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Why did Allah preserve the Quran & not its meaning?

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    GODsubmitter
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    It is not preserved because it was a revelation to one man, Muhammad, and it was never intended to be a religion "en masse", but just his own workbook for self-help, as he often says in the Qur'an "my Lord" many times... I follow my religion and you follow yours, I worship what I worship and you... etc etc...

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      It is not preserved because it was a revelation to one man, Muhammad, and it was never intended to be a religion "en masse", but just his own workbook for self-help, as he often says in the Qur'an "my Lord" many times... I follow my religion and you follow yours, I worship what I worship and you... etc etc...

      I take it you do not consider your self to be a Muslim - in the traditional sense?

      Also - considering what you said above

      How do you reconcile that with the fact that many verses allude to Quran being a revelation for the people?

      "This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah -"

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        I take it you do not consider your self to be a Muslim - in the traditional sense?

        Also - considering what you said above

        How do you reconcile that with the fact that many verses allude to Quran being a revelation for the people?

        "This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah -"

        Yes, whoever raises his mind to the level of consciousness which symbolizes Allah, same as Muhammad achieved... that;s why it is said "for those" and not for everybody!

        Peace

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          Yes, whoever raises his mind to the level of consciousness which symbolizes Allah, same as Muhammad achieved... that;s why it is said "for those" and not for everybody!

          Peace

          But you are NOT that person - in the sense you consider yourself above everyone - are you? And obviously no one is going to be similar to the Blessed Prophet himself. And the verse is there for everyone - that is everyone can attain that level.

          And you have not answered this

          It is not preserved because it was a revelation to one man, Muhammad, and it was never intended to be a religion "en masse", but just his own workbook for self-help, as he often says in the Qur'an "my Lord" many times... I follow my religion and you follow yours, I worship what I worship and you... etc etc...

          Look this contradicts what you are saying now. You've clearly said - that Quran was only for one man - but the book itself says it isn't.

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            It seems that you have your own formed opinions as you demonstrated all over the place, so I cannot add anything to it.

            Peace

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              It seems that you have your own formed opinions as you demonstrated all over the place, so I cannot add anything to it.

              Peace

              hmm Doesn't everyone have their own formed opinions?

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                hmm Doesn't everyone have their own formed opinions?

                Exactly! And those everybody's formed opinions prevent them from achieving that state which enabled Muhammad to be a receptacle of God's Wisdom ("words&quot.

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                  Exactly! And those everybody's formed opinions prevent them from achieving that state which enabled Muhammad to be a receptacle of God's Wisdom ("words&quot.

                  And what about you? Are you going to shed some more light . . . or is that it? Not very helpful is it? In your view - how does a person reach such a stage?

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                    1817 "Whomever God guides is the truly guided one, and whomever He sends astray, you will not find for him a guiding teacher".

                    Peace

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                      1817 "Whomever God guides is the truly guided one, and whomever He sends astray, you will not find for him a guiding teacher".

                      Peace

                      In other words - one will never know - who or who isn't rightly guided - and there is no criteria for measurement either!

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