Inheritance according to Qur?an
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411 ... so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed/known) = 2/3 father (variable/unknown)
Logical deduction AND IF OR NOT ELSE (used to build supercomputers) differentiates the human from most creatures.
Peace!
What will be the case if the diceased is a woma?
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What will be the case if the diceased is a woma?
The same; why ask ? are not women included in the human category or want discuss nuances of Arabic?
411 ... so to his mother the third
3114 and We enjoined the human to his parents carried him his mother weakness upon infirmity and his separation in two years that be thankful to Me and to your parents to Me the destiny
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The same; why ask ? are not women included in the human category or want discuss nuances of Arabic?
411 ... so to his mother the third
3114 and We enjoined the human to his parents carried him his mother weakness upon infirmity and his separation in two years that be thankful to Me and to your parents to Me the destiny
is dual active participle signifying The Father and the Mother. Parents being plural in english is perhaps not suitable translation particularly because it also denotes to act as parent. When genders are specified in text then they refer only to that gender not interchangeably.
I have attempted in two parts and posted it seperately since Arabic text is used in images. You are requested to critically examine it. Thanks
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I have attempted in two parts and posted it seperately since Arabic text is used in images. You are requested to critically examine it. Thanks
Peace Mazhar, your article starts off well then turns into an illogical hairball with multiple errors started by assigning 2/3 to mixed children/siblings ignors clear instructions 2/3 is to females only, lacks comprehension of basic ELSE IF AND IF switch to different case and gives only partial distributions with remainder unaccounted.
411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
411 ELSE IF are nisa above two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) thulutha 2/34176... ELSE IF they were (feminine) two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) the third dual (2/3)
4176... AND IF they were siblings rijal wanisa so to the male like share the two (feminine) -
Thank you. You have clarified it for me. This is what I understood. All I need to do now is irrefutably clarify when and under what conditions this applies.
These are all conditions 1/6 or 1/3 to siblings applies (what differentiates sister in 412 and 4176).
kalalah (fatherless spouseless, left no crown/head of household) has son
412 .. so if kana/is (masculine) to you walad/offspring (i.e. if to person male child/born/son) so to them the eight from what you left from after a will you made in it or judgment (continue case if son...)
and if is a man inherited kalalah (fatherless spouseless) or woman
and has brother or sister so to each one from them the sixth
so if they were greater from that so they partners in the third1 - 1/6 sister/brother = 5/6 son/s
1 - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 2/3 son/s1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 sister/brother = 2/3 son/s
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 1/2 son/s1 - 1/6 sister/brother = 5/6 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 5/6 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 sister/brother = 2/3 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/3 2+ sisters/brothers/mixed = 1/2 children (daughter/s and son/s) 21 ratio male to female -
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I have attempted in two parts and posted it seperately since Arabic text is used in images. You are requested to critically examine it. Thanks
Peace Mazhar, your article starts off well then turns into an illogical hairball with multiple errors started by assigning 2/3 to mixed children/siblings ignors clear instructions 2/3 is to females only, lacks comprehension of basic ELSE IF AND IF switch to different case and gives only partial distributions with remainder unaccounted.411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
411 ELSE IF are nisa above two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) thulutha 2/3Sorry Noon,
What is stuck up in mind is to make the total equal to 1, that is, the whole inheritance.
Thereby, you are not listening and keep on ignoring the basic provisions of law for distribution of inheritance. What you are making hundered percent is just superfluous mathematics not the portions assigned by Allah the Exalted or the Dying Man.The share is based on feminine gender, not daughter or sister and son or brother,. It is not equatining of persons belonging to different gender. First take the Subject of Sentence and then read its predicate. You read predicate first and the subject later on as was done by majority of translators showing as if they did not know even the basics of Arabic grammar and sentence structuring.
The base for distribution is feminine shares which will bring in the brother in total that can go to three feminine shares.
The other base for distribution is single son or absence of single son.What is the share for unknown "someone" who is still in the womb of a wife?
What will be the fate of "someone" unknown in the womb of a wife who was alienated-pronounced suspension of Matrimonial Bond a day before his death? -
Sorry Noon,
What is stuck up in mind is to make the total equal to 1, that is, the whole inheritance.
Thereby, you are not listening and keep on ignoring the basic provisions of law for distribution of inheritance. What you are making hundered percent is just superfluous mathematics not the portions assigned by Allah the Exalted or the Dying Man.No, it is you who is not listening or reading correctly making up things that is nowhere stated in Qur'an.
By your logic if only heirs parents; you would give mother 1/3 tell father to take a hike 2/3 unaccounted.411 so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable)
The share is based on feminine gender, not daughter or sister and son or brother,. It is not equatining of persons belonging to different gender. First take the Subject of Sentence and then read its predicate. You read predicate first and the subject later on as was done by majority of translators showing as if they did not know even the basics of Arabic grammar and sentence structuring.
The base for distribution is feminine shares which will bring in the brother in total that can go to three feminine shares.
The other base for distribution is single son or absence of single son.Again a mathematical illogical hairball; obey the explicit instructions pay attention to switch case ELSE IF AND IF!
In addition you always have to give 2/3 to 3+ daughters or 1/2 to 1 daughter; therefore if you insist on mixing...1 - 1/2 one daughter = 1/2 ten sons (1/20 each) is illogical
1 - 2/3 three daughters = 1/3 ten sons (1/30 each) is illogicalWhat is the share for unknown "someone" who is still in the womb of a wife?
What will be the fate of "someone" unknown in the womb of a wife who was alienated-pronounced suspension of Matrimonial Bond a day before his death?Again, I've posted for you and asked you numerous times to answer the basic question which you consistently avoid and come back with more perpetual questions and tireless expounding of grammar of clear simple verses. Now are you going to answer the question how you assign 2/3 to both males and females when it's explicit that 2/3 goes only to females?
411 directs you The God in your children to the male like share the two (feminine)
411 ELSE IF are nisa above two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) thulutha 2/34176... ELSE IF they were (feminine) two falahunna/so to them (feminine plural) the third dual (2/3)
4176... AND IF they were siblings rijal wanisa so to the male like share the two (feminine)As to your question of a pregnant wife (man dies leaves no will), distribute the same 100% to all inheritors according to Qur'an whether she was pregnant or not pregnant, rich or poor, etc., and they the inheritors (not you) are responsible for their care after the distribution depending on their situation.
These are examples which I stated to you numerous times if you are going to comment on inheritance verses you need to go through all combinations and your math has to be consistent otherwise you contradict and therefore it is not Qur'an!
100% wife, sibling/s 0 not kalalah case
1 - 1/4 wife = 3/4 mother/father
1 - 1/2 (1 daughter, 1/2 always)= 1/2 wife
1 - 2/3 (3 daughters, 2/9 each) = 1/3 wife1 - 1/4 wife = 3/4 (3/8 mother + 3/8 father)
1 - 1/2 (1 daughter) = 1/2 (1/4 wife + 1/4 mother/father)
1 - 2/3 (3 daughters) = 1/3 (1/6 wife + 1/6 mother/father)1 - 1/6 mother/father - 1/8 wife = 17/24 son/s
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 father - 1/8 wife = 13/24 son/s1 - 1/8 wife = 7/8 children (mixed) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/2 (1 daughter) = 1/2 (1/6 wife + 1/6 mother + 1/6 father)
1 - 2/3 (3 daughters) = 1/3 (1/9 wife + 1/9 mother + 1/9 father)1 - 1/6 mother/father - 1/8 wife = 17/24 children (mixed) 21 ratio male to female
1 - 1/6 mother - 1/6 father - 1/8 wife = 13/24 children (mixed) 21 ratio male to female -
No, it is you who is not listening or reading correctly making up things that is nowhere stated in Qur'an.
By your logic if only heirs parents; you would give mother 1/3 tell father to take a hike 2/3 unaccounted.411 so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable)
You assign 2/3 to father of a deceased man who had no son to inherit him and instead his Father and Mother are called his Waris. This is because Allah the Exalted has assigned only for mother the 1/3 in this case.
Who has assigned 2/3 to father?
Where is it said that left over will be for such and such person?
Variable means liable to change especially suddenly and unpredictably. Who will decide the change this 2/3? -
Again a mathematical illogical hairball; obey the explicit instructions pay attention to switch case ELSE IF AND IF!
In addition you always have to give 2/3 to 3+ daughters or 1/2 to 1 daughter; therefore if you insist on mixing...1 - 1/2 one daughter = 1/2 ten sons (1/20 each) is illogical
1 - 2/3 three daughters = 1/3 ten sons (1/30 each) is illogicalI did not say this. What I said is that the progenies where shares are three minimum, the two third is fixed by Allah the Exalted for the progeneies. The rest is at the discretion of the dying person.
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You straight go to mathematics for arriving at 1.
Do you accept this injunction as the Part of Inheritance distribution or otherwise like those who might call it MansukhThe Oral Bequest in favour of the Mother and Father and the relatively Near Blood relatives, in accordance with the well known norms, has been prescribed-decreed upon you at the point in time when the natural death has approached someone of you people, in case he is leaving behind worldly wealth.
This is mandatory-incumbent upon people who are cautious, heedful and mindful in reverence and fear of Allah the Exalted. -
You assign 2/3 to father of a deceased man who had no son to inherit him and instead his Father and Mother are called his Waris. This is because Allah the Exalted has assigned only for mother the 1/3 in this case.
Who has assigned 2/3 to father?
Where is it said that left over will be for such and such person?
Variable means liable to change especially suddenly and unpredictably. Who will decide the change this 2/3?Peace Mazhar -- use the brain, this is basic common sense logic. IF only parents, no child.
You only need to know one to figure out the other. I don't have time to teach simple logic.
a + b = 1; 1 - a = b; 1 - b = a
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable/unstated)
Likewise example 1 - 1/6 mother (fixed) = 5/6 brother (variable/unstated)
411... so if not was to person waladun/child and heirs person?s parents so to his mother the third
411... so if kana/is (masculine) to person ikh'wat (i.e. if to person male sibling) so to his mother the sixthYou straight go to mathematics for arriving at 1.
Do you accept this injunction as the Part of Inheritance distribution or otherwise like those who might call it MansukhThe Oral Bequest in favour of the Mother and Father and the relatively Near Blood relatives, in accordance with the well known norms, has been prescribed-decreed upon you at the point in time when the natural death has approached someone of you people, in case he is leaving behind worldly wealth.
This is mandatory-incumbent upon people who are cautious, heedful and mindful in reverence and fear of Allah the Exalted.Yes at time of death make out a will and if he gets hit by a big rock (no will) distribute according to Qur'an.
Likewise at time of death one can simply say distribute all my property according to Qur'an -- use verses.
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Peace Mazhar -- use the brain, this is basic common sense logic. IF only parents, no child.
You only need to know one to figure out the other. I don't have time to teach simple logic.
a + b = 1; 1 - a = b; 1 - b = a
1 - 1/3 mother (fixed) = 2/3 father (variable/unstated)
In Law there is no such simple logic. In executing provisions of law, such use of brain is not allowed. In law things are not left in vacuum at the mercy of general public to draw whatever their brains suggests them to infer.
Law is always definite and specific. The principle is laid down. Allah the Exalted is assigning shares by His Will and asking the Dying Person to give his Will for the rest.
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You straight go to mathematics for arriving at 1.
Do you accept this injunction as the Part of Inheritance distribution or otherwise like those who might call it MansukhThe Oral Bequest in favour of the Mother and Father and the relatively Near Blood relatives, in accordance with the well known norms, has been prescribed-decreed upon you at the point in time when the natural death has approached someone of you people, in case he is leaving behind worldly wealth.
This is mandatory-incumbent upon people who are cautious, heedful and mindful in reverence and fear of Allah the Exalted.Yes at time of death make out a will and if he gets hit by a big rock (no will) distribute according to Qur'an.
So he made a will, where would go then your mathematics yielding result 1?
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In Law there is no such simple logic. In executing provisions of law, such use of brain is not allowed. In law things are not left in vacuum at the mercy of general public to draw whatever their brains suggests them to infer.
Law is always definite and specific. The principle is laid down. Allah the Exalted is assigning shares by His Will and asking the Dying Person to give his Will for the rest.
What is it that you do not understand inheritance verses are to be applied when there is no will?
IF left no will or killed in battle or die instantly or after distribution the wife has a heart attack, etc...
So he made a will, where would go then your mathematics yielding result 1?
It's not mine and whatever they decide the amount is always equal to 1 or the whole!
Example man writes a will $ 3.111 million total inheritance
$ 1 million to his daughter
$ 1 million to his wife
$ 1 million to his mother
$ 0 to incompetent son
$ 100k to his neighbors
$ 10k throw in street to strangers
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In Law there is no such simple logic. In executing provisions of law, such use of brain is not allowed. In law things are not left in vacuum at the mercy of general public to draw whatever their brains suggests them to infer.Law is always definite and specific. The principle is laid down. Allah the Exalted is assigning shares by His Will and asking the Dying Person to give his Will for the rest.
What is it that you do not understand inheritance verses are to be applied when there is no will?
IF left no will or killed in battle or die instantly or after distribution the wife has a heart attack, etc...
But brother why you conveniently forget that in all the three Verses where Allah the Exalted assigns shares to particular persons in particular situations, the Bequest is the integral part at all places?
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It's not mine and whatever they decide the amount is always equal to 1 or the whole!
Example man writes a will $ 3.111 million total inheritance
$ 1 million to his daughter
$ 1 million to his wife
$ 1 million to his mother
$ 0 to incompetent son
$ 100k to his neighbors
$ 10k throw in street to strangers
$ 1k convert to Russian Rubles then burn itAgain you are presuming things in vacuum. In law there is no such funny things. The Bequest is in favour of Mother and Father, and the Relatively Nearer Blood Relatives.
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But brother why you conveniently forget that in all the three Verses where Allah the Exalted assigns shares to particular persons in particular situations, the Bequest is the integral part at all places?
Thereby, acording to your variable formula, if there is a Will, the Verses are not to be applied. Are you suggesting this?
Peace, I forget nothing! 411 ... from (means to subtract) after a will have made in it or judgment
1 - 100% (if left will to distribute the whole) = 0% amount to be distributed
1 - 0% (if deceased has left no will at all) = 100% amount to be distributed -
Peace, I forget nothing! 411 ... from (means to subtract) after a will have made in it or judgment
1 - 100% (if left will to distribute the whole) = 0% amount to be distributed
1 - 0% (if deceased has left no will at all) = 100% amount to be distributedWhat I had stated verbally what you think about distribution of inheritance, you have simply endorsed that in mathematical way.
"judgment" decreed by whom?
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What I had stated verbally what you think about distribution of inheritance, you have simply endorsed that in mathematical way.
"judgment" decreed by whom?
Yes, if they see it good or fair to leave nothing to certain relatives or leave everything to one child -- up to them!
Without a will or partial will, inheritance verses kick in to arbitrate and avoid bickering among different inheritors.