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New Groundbreaking Arabic Book: Peacemaking from the Quran

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    Man_of_Faith
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    Peace,

    Huh? You said something which was arrogant and I just continued on the list. And Shaytaan said like you think. There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your

    1. More knowledgeable
    2. Way smarter

    And I added

    1. And more arrogant

    You you deny the reply was untrue based on the first post?

    I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.

    Peace

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      The_Chimp
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      Peace,

      Huh? You said something which was arrogant and I just continued on the list. And Shaytaan said like you think. There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your

      1. More knowledgeable
      2. Way smarter

      And I added

      1. And more arrogant

      You you deny the reply was untrue based on the first post?

      I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.

      Peace

      There has been little offense in my posts. At best you were offensive and I returned the offense by adding a line to your

      You can hardly be the best judge of that? As you are accused of being guilty . . . and it is NOT you being offended. So offending others and then saying you are not offensive . . . but calling others "arrogant" . . .

      Hmmm . . . that is ARROGANCE!


      I know it was a bit sarcastic but could not help it on such a lame post. So retarded. But go to you creed and I will have mine.

      So you quite enjoy calling others "retarded" yet . . . do not see this as offensive!


      It is a FACT that . . . I am better educated and smarter than you. It has easily been proven.

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        It is a FACT that . . . I am better educated and smarter than you. It has easily been proven.

        I thought I was going to find a relevant and interesting nugget of information. Yet, having only read the last post, I feel as though I have stepped into a primary school playground.

        Salaam.

        Sajda.

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          The_Chimp
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          I thought I was going to find a relevant and interesting nugget of information. Yet, having only read the last post, I feel as though I have stepped into a primary school playground.

          Salaam.

          Sajda.

          Why? Do you object to primary school playgrounds . . . I have always enjoyed a good scrap! Even aged 32. brickwall

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            Why? Do you object to primary school playgrounds . . . I have always enjoyed a good scrap! Even aged 32. brickwall

            Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.

            We should not lose sight.
            We should not fight.
            We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
            We should unite.

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              The_Chimp
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              Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.

              We should not lose sight.
              We should not fight.
              We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
              We should unite.

              Why not? It was a light-hearted comment . . . jeez!

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                hawk99
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                Come on, brother, there's no need for such comments.

                We should not lose sight.
                We should not fight.
                We should hold on to the rope nice and tight.
                We should unite.

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                Why not? It was a light-hearted comment . . . jeez!

                Jeez = Jesus = call on Jesus for assistance

                ya Allah = call on Allah for assistance, is the best expression of exasperation, but you already know that!

                God bless

                peace

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                  The_Chimp
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                  Jeez = Jesus = call on Jesus for assistance

                  ya Allah = call on Allah for assistance, is the best expression of exasperation, but you already know that!

                  God bless

                  peace

                  I also know that Jeez - is mild expression of surprise. . . .and NOT calling Jesus Christ for help.

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                    hawk99
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                    I also know that Jeez - is mild expression of surprise. . . .and NOT calling Jesus Christ for help.

                    hmmm, ok,

                    On the one hand you are correct

                    Definition of JEEZ
                    ?used as a mild oath or introductory expletive (as to express surprise)

                    On the other hand......

                    Origin of JEEZ
                    euphemism for Jesus
                    First Known Use 1923

                    God bless

                    peace

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                      Man_of_Faith
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                      Peace,

                      That is true. Saying jeez is using Jesus' name, even if by slang.

                      I usually say "oh Lord God". It may be more righteous.

                      God bless you

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                        Zulf
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                        What is important is what we mean when we utter what we utter. The intention is the important thing.... not the etymology of the uttered word/expression. Then of course, there are expression, although innocently uttered, that we perhaps better refrain from using... like "bloody hell"... or worse...

                        Uttering 'jeez' doesn't mean we call on Jesus... and just because we celebrate Christmas it doesn't mean we believe Jesus was more than a human man, and it doesn't even mean we commemorate Jesus birth at all, whether as God incarnate or as just a human messenger.

                        Peace

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                          The_Chimp
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                          Peace,

                          That is true. Saying jeez is using Jesus' name, even if by slang.

                          I usually say "oh Lord God". It may be more righteous.

                          God bless you

                          You are getting extremely petty . . . following me around and leaving nasty comments just for the sake of it. You do not know much or have answer . . . like all your brethren resort to making up nonsense.

                          Rather than highlighting your inadequacies - try staying quiet.

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                            The_Chimp
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                            hmmm, ok,

                            On the one hand you are correct

                            Definition of JEEZ
                            ?used as a mild oath or introductory expletive (as to express surprise)

                            On the other hand......

                            Origin of JEEZ
                            euphemism for Jesus
                            First Known Use 1923

                            God bless

                            peace

                            It did start off as an abbreviation of saying Jesus - but not saying "Oh Jesus" . . . and it is better than you sing "Jesus Christ" as a an expression to express surprise or annoyance.


                            I don't particularly have any problems saying Jesus Christ! other than to showing disrespect or taking his name in vain.

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                              hawk99
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                              What is important is what we mean when we utter what we utter. The intention is the important thing.... not the etymology of the uttered word/expression. Then of course, there are expression, although innocently uttered, that we perhaps better refrain from using... like "bloody hell"... or worse...

                              Uttering 'jeez' doesn't mean we call on Jesus... and just because we celebrate Christmas it doesn't mean we believe Jesus was more than a human man, and it doesn't even mean we commemorate Jesus birth at all, whether as God incarnate or as just a human messenger.

                              Peace

                              Peace Zulf,

                              Of course you are correct, but I was not addressing intentions, only the definition, knowledge is king.

                              It did start off as an abbreviation of saying Jesus - but not saying "Oh Jesus" . . . and it is better than you sing "Jesus Christ" as a an expression to express surprise or annoyance.


                              I don't particularly have any problems saying Jesus Christ! other than to showing disrespect or taking his name in vain.

                              I understand your point, on the other hand, some may interpret it as you calling on other than God.

                              God bless

                              peace

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                                Zulf
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                                Peace Zulf,

                                Of course you are correct, but I was not addressing intentions, only the definition, knowledge is king.

                                I understand your point, on the other hand, some may interpret it as you calling on other than God.

                                God bless

                                peace

                                Definitely agreed.
                                I felt I just wanted to exclaim my own idea. I fully understand your point of view. I often take a similar standpoint.

                                The tricky part is that we very often cannot know the other party's real motivation... we only guess, and then judge as per our own ideas and assumptions. This is what we all do. All "sides" accuse the "other side" based on conjecture. It's the trademark of the human being.

                                Peace and best wishes!

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                                  Like

                                  Oh just make me resident poet!

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                                    noshirk
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                                    salaam brother ayman

                                    i am really impressed by the success of your facebook page.
                                    thank you for the work you are doing.

                                    Peace

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                                      NielsJacob
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                                      Peace Ayman

                                      I read the first chapters.
                                      I couldn?t almost believe what I read.
                                      Its like everything just falls into their places, where they was intended to be from the beginning.

                                      I think that you are one that make what we all really purposed to do Trying to make the gods plan come through.
                                      May he really use you a lot.

                                      Wishing you all the best.

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                                        TheQuranAloneRevolution
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                                        Peace Ayman
                                        I read most of the book and I have to say that it is thought provoking. I can agree with you on a lot of things, the only questions I have would concern the Masjid Idea; can it not be a physical and a mental thing?

                                        Otherwise I can see where the 2 salat belief come from (you can interpret the "Guard your Salat (More than dual), as mean your lifetime, and not just daily because the end of the verse states to "stand in obedience (e.g in All of your salats = again lifetime, not just isolated). Also the Ramadan Summer timing is logical.

                                        Again, the only need for more interpretation for me, concerns the Masjid and Qibla interpretation. I say so because after reading the Masjid interpretation in Arabic, you kind of stressed more on the mental acceptance (sujjud) of it, but you didn't completely reject the idea of a physical house/Bayt/Masjid, where people can recite the Almighty's verses, and thus come to obedience or sujjud. Would you be kind enough to enlighten me on that, can there not be such a physical place where there this mental obedience to the Almighty's words happen ? What about the Qibla being a physical focal point as a form of being organized?

                                        I appreciate your response, thanks.
                                        Salam 3lek

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                                          GODsubmitter
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                                          Peace Ayman
                                          I read most of the book and I have to say that it is thought provoking. I can agree with you on a lot of things, the only questions I have would concern the Masjid Idea; can it not be a physical and a mental thing?

                                          Otherwise I can see where the 2 salat belief come from (you can interpret the "Guard your Salat (More than dual), as mean your lifetime, and not just daily because the end of the verse states to "stand in obedience (e.g in All of your salats = again lifetime, not just isolated). Also the Ramadan Summer timing is logical.

                                          Again, the only need for more interpretation for me, concerns the Masjid and Qibla interpretation. I say so because after reading the Masjid interpretation in Arabic, you kind of stressed more on the mental acceptance (sujjud) of it, but you didn't completely reject the idea of a physical house/Bayt/Masjid, where people can recite the Almighty's verses, and thus come to obedience or sujjud. Would you be kind enough to enlighten me on that, can there not be such a physical place where there this mental obedience to the Almighty's words happen ? What about the Qibla being a physical focal point as a form of being organized?

                                          I appreciate your response, thanks.
                                          Salam 3lek

                                          Masjid & Quibla etc..
                                          one should go to the roots... Torah... first was the tent of the meeting (mishkan) when you are in the desert (every-day's life turmoil) you connect to God "on the walking" (unfold the tent as so on) but, when you "build" the Temple (Salomon's) you do it on the rock, which is a solid ground of your inner peace and meditation.

                                          So it is all in you, as God is mainly consciousness!
                                          Same with Masjid, it is the "hajj" to the inner Self! (inner masjid)

                                          As to Salat, here it is

                                          ?As my prayer became more attentive and inward,
                                          I had less to say.
                                          I finally became completely silent.
                                          I started to listen
                                          -which is even further removed from speaking.
                                          I first thought that praying entailed speaking.
                                          I then learned that praying is hearing,
                                          not merely being silent.
                                          This is how it is.
                                          To pray does not mean to listen to oneself speaking.
                                          Prayer involves becoming silent,
                                          and being silent,
                                          and waiting until God is heard.?
                                          Soren Kierkegaard.

                                          One should never forget that the Qur'an is the updated Bible, version 2.0 so to speak... )

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