From sunnah hero to sunnah zero
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whateverI don't know how to begin.
My name is Wael. My mother is from marrocco and my father is Lebanese. Although my father is a Shia, my mom raised me to become a Sunni as herself. She even sent me to marrocco, in her native town called TIZNIT, for a year when i was 12 and it was there I became very religious. My aunt is a SHARIFA as we call it in Morrocco, it's a person who is allegedly from the prophet Muhammad's family, so some of my family members was very religious Sunnis. As I am born and raised up in Spain (that's the reason for why my English is so bad. So excuse my English) I always needed a place to belong to. In Spain I felt myself marroccan, and in vacations in Lebanon I felt myself marroccan but when I was in marrocco I didn't really felt myself home either. So I was searching for an identity. When i expressed my frustration to My mother who is a religious Sunnia, she would tell me that there is nothing called Spanish, marroccan or Lebanese but only something called Muslim and non Muslim . That made me comfortable. I was a Muslim and that became my identity. When I was sent to marrocco by my mother as a 13 years old, my family would increase my faith in sunnism and when I came back I began to wear jellaba(I don't know what it's called in English?) and the Islamic cap and I would follow all the rules in my religion. My mother was very happy for me but my father being a Shia was very dissatisfied with me following My mothers religion (sunnism) . He used to say "In our Arab tradition the son follow the father so you have to be Shia like me, not Sunni like your mother" . But I didn't cared about what my father said, as i was raised by my maternal family to become a Sunni and I was convinced that sunnism was the truth. Moreover my aunt was a SHARIFA which for me proved that I was on the right track. When I was 14 years old I begin doing DAWA(I don't know what it's called in English?) but most marroccans here in Spain aren't religious I began to travel abroad in order to give dawa with some of my friends, I was in holland, in Denmark , in Germany and UK where many Sunnis praised me for having so deep knowledge of sunnah and fosha compared to my age. In UK I found many religious Sunnis who praise me to the skies and for me UK Was my favorite place in Europe as it had sharia courts and as I saw many religious Muslims there. However my biggest idol was a goat looking man called zakir naik. I was a very close minded teenage, and also a sexist women hater. Women were nothing more then a sexual object created to lead us to do zina. So I felt it was best women were kept in their homes and if they went out they should be completely covered. I also felt disgust by non Muslims, they would go to hell, and by Muslims I regarded murdads quranist, Shia, alawi and so on. But deep inside myself I felt like I was missing something.... Watching my Spanish class mates do simple activities like listening to music made me feel sick to my stomach.. I remember some marroccan songs I loved to hear in my childhood but would deny myself to hear now since It was haram. But I made my heart hard as a stone I found comfort when my sheikh praised me for being strong enough to say no to music.
My cousine from Morrocco visited me in Spain and told me that he had became a quranist. I demanded to know who made him kafir ? He mentioned free minds, said that he followed free minds but didn't really participate in the discussions but he had followed free minds and was convinced that Hadith were a fabrication. I then joined free minds, thinking that I could convert each and every murdad on that page back to Islam and sunnah but I felt in talk with someone named soldier of Allah. He litterly shattered my belief. First he made me realize that the ulama who I used to believe and follow blindly were not experts as I thought. He was a very though Provocing guy who made me realize that there is nothing scientific over science of Hadith.
I then took a break and studied everything on my own, and everything soldier of Allah said just made more and more sense. As a last resort, I tried to read the Quran without having any Hadith or sunnah in mind in order to see whether Quran can be understood without Hadith and sunnah and surprisingly I was actually able to read the whole Quran and understand it without sunnah and Hadith! The "problem" is just that my understanding of Quran was VERY DIFFERENT without sunnah than the understanding I had with sunnah in my mind. And going back to free minds and reading all my privious post was just so embarrassing, I sounded like a stupid fundamentalist.I am still searching. Bislama.
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Salaam Wael,
Having read your story, I am very happy for you.
There is no embarassment at your old posts. You are a young man who believed what he was taught, like many of us, but you were guided to The Truth by the will of God. There is no shame or embarassment in the journey you have taken. I don't know you, but I actually feel very proud of you. D
I am assuming in your post, you mean "Student of Allah", and not "Soldier of Allah" as I have previously read some of the posts he has written to you-with great patience!
I get a feeling you came to my part of the world. Did you come to the markaz in Savile Town and visit the "Shariah Court" here? Where I live, is the Mecca of Sunniism in England.
Congratulations and welcome to your freedom. May God give you, and all of us, the ability to progress as His loyal servant(s).
Peace.
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Greetings and Peace, all group
@Sunnah-hero/Wael Long time no see! sun I'm pleased to see that you have developed. <happy tears> In following ALLAH alone through AQ, you are following the REAL Sunnah of ALL Prophets (Peace upon them all!)
I'm unblocking you, and really look forward to reading your new posts.
In life, it is never too late for someone to find the Deen, ISA.
May ALLAH see fit to bless you, and all seekers.
peace
~Abdul-Hadi
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salam
well bro if you regret what happened you can repent sincerely, your only human , we all make mistakes in the end
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Salaam Wael,
welcome to the path of Allah bro.
You may need to take off your "goggles of hadith" that you were wearing to understand alQuraan correctly. It is like, if you wear a red glass goggle, you will see everything red and if you wear a blue glass goggle, you will see everything blue, so the same with other colors. To see the original colors, you have to take off all color goggles that you were wearing. Hope you understand what I am trying to say, inshaAllah.
Keep hold of Allah tightly and you are guided to the right path, simple as that.
Rest, I agree with es on what she said.
May Allah bless you, and increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only true path pr
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awwww Peace Sunna Hero
Welcome back, no matter how far you've gone into a wrong road, you can still turn back.
I guess God was guiding you )... Just try to be a good person. God guides those who are nice )I advise you to watch
Debate with saudi Quran-alone guys and a sunni Clerc from lebanon.
ttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eQ2wFuFAMoAnd looking back at your first posts.
"Yes Abu Hanifa, Maliki, Shafi, Hanbali, Bukhari, Ibn Kathir must not be questioned at all!!"Watch
when did the real insults on our prophet (mohammad) started? -Dr. adnan ibrahim
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOHa6ZBQdUYRecommended readings
The Original purpose of our creation
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
Faith without good work is useless!
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604521
7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
Forgive & you'll be Forgiven
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603142
God Loves/doesn't Love
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603058.0
~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053I Also recommend going through and studying
Mathematical Miracle of the Quran
http//www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/index.htmlMessenger of the Covenant
http//www.masjidtucson.org/submission/faq/messenger_of_covenant.html -
Thank you guys but sorry the name of the member on free minds who made me lose my belief in sunnism was student of Allah not soldier of Allah hihi
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Peace Sunnah-hero, all.
I see From sunnah hero to God Alone hero. Welcome back
Quote from Youssef And looking back at your first posts.
"Yes Abu Hanifa, Maliki, Shafi, Hanbali, Bukhari, Ibn Kathir must not be questioned at all!!"They will face God , like we will . Everyone will be questioned
5338 No soul bears the sins of another soul.?
5339 Every human being is responsible for his own works.?
5340 And everyone s work will be shown.? ( On the day of judgement!)
5342 To your Lord is the final destiny!?
Peace.
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I am glad you shared your story and are keeping an open mind. I can especially relate to you when you mentioned music. I come from a culture were music is of HUGE importance, its not like mainstream pop/rock music or anything like that, but from a tradition of thousands of years. Music as a way to connect with our creator and as worship so when I first learned about Islam I was really dismayed to learn that it was haraam according to hadiths. This actually kept my away from Islam for a long time but I still had such a longing for it, it was through learning about Rashad Khalifa and others who only followed the Quran and why that I was able to really come into Islam. I wish you all the best.
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The "problem" is just that my understanding of Quran was VERY DIFFERENT without sunnah than the understanding I had with sunnah in my mind. And going back to free minds and reading all my privious post was just so embarrassing, I sounded like a stupid fundamentalist.
I am still searching. Bislama.
wonderful story and welcome to the light. There are still paths, just hang on to Allah and He will continue to guide through those to the Truth, inshaAllah.
peace
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Salam Sunna Zero
i just say a big welcome back in the forum!
I'm so happy to hear your complete story - i was a little bit like you wearing the niqab and making Dawa in Switzerland putted all my CD's far away and destroyed my paintings- for a false believe and to become hard and agressive - Praise to God, that he guided us all to His right path!
Keep learning with a open brain - group
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Peace brother Wael,
I rarely post on here anymore, but I do occasionally read through threads and discussions in my spare time, and I do remember your old posts and your arguments. One thing I remember was your determination in convincing others of your beliefs and finding out why those of us who believed in the Quran alone did so, and it reminded me of myself once upon a time. I was an atheist determined to convince theists that they were wrong, but slowly my consistent efforts involved me in more and more research, which inevitably led me to believe in the truth whether I wanted to or not. And I believe your truth-desiring heart, with Allah's permission, led you to the truth as well.
To see you here, even with your classic username ;D, humbly admitting that you have embraced Islam has truly moved me just now. And I pray you continue to be guided. Do not be ashamed of your old posts, for they mark your growth. Many of my views have changed from my old posts on here as well, and it's humbling to know that Allah continues to guide.
By the way, if I'm not mistaken, I believe Student of Allah is a "she".
Enjoy the freedom, and may Allah continue to guide the righteous.
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Peace brother Wael,
I rarely post on here anymore, but I do occasionally read through threads and discussions in my spare time, and I do remember your old posts and your arguments. One thing I remember was your determination in convincing others of your beliefs and finding out why those of us who believed in the Quran alone did so, and it reminded me of myself once upon a time. I was an atheist determined to convince theists that they were wrong, but slowly my consistent efforts involved me in more and more research, which inevitably led me to believe in the truth whether I wanted to or not. And I believe your truth-desiring heart, with Allah's permission, led you to the truth as well.
To see you here, even with your classic username ;D, humbly admitting that you have embraced Islam has truly moved me just now. And I pray you continue to be guided. Do not be ashamed of your old posts, for they mark your growth. Many of my views have changed from my old posts on here as well, and it's humbling to know that Allah continues to guide.
By the way, if I'm not mistaken, I believe Student of Allah is a "she".
Enjoy the freedom, and may Allah continue to guide the righteous.
That post actually made me go all goosebumps and brought tears to my eyes '(
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Peace brother Wael,
I rarely post on here anymore, but I do occasionally read through threads and discussions in my spare time, and I do remember your old posts and your arguments. One thing I remember was your determination in convincing others of your beliefs and finding out why those of us who believed in the Quran alone did so, and it reminded me of myself once upon a time. I was an atheist determined to convince theists that they were wrong, but slowly my consistent efforts involved me in more and more research, which inevitably led me to believe in the truth whether I wanted to or not. And I believe your truth-desiring heart, with Allah's permission, led you to the truth as well.
To see you here, even with your classic username ;D, humbly admitting that you have embraced Islam has truly moved me just now. And I pray you continue to be guided. Do not be ashamed of your old posts, for they mark your growth. Many of my views have changed from my old posts on here as well, and it's humbling to know that Allah continues to guide.
By the way, if I'm not mistaken, I believe Student of Allah is a "she".
Enjoy the freedom, and may Allah continue to guide the righteous.
Salaam Sunnah-zero and welcome back to the forum handshake,
I am very happy to read you have found AlSiraat AlMustaqeem, inshaAllah you will walk on it till your last breath pr
Don't be ashamed of your old post, no mumin will ever use it against you inshaAllah. We are not Firaun.
Most of us all began the same as you, we also preached sunnism (or any other religion) with full conviction to others.
And I am almost sure next year you will also not agree with most of your posts of today. We are all learning and changing (=growing) our views, sometimes small changes sometimes "revolutionary" ideas.Salaam,
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salaam sunnah hero and all,
I had read all your posts and debates with great interest and highly regard any post by student of Allah as he is always so precise yet so clear in his views. It is good to see you have come to the right conclusions as far being a 'Quranist' is concerned. welcome -
Salaam Wael,
Having read your story, I am very happy for you.
There is no embarassment at your old posts. You are a young man who believed what he was taught, like many of us, but you were guided to The Truth by the will of God. There is no shame or embarassment in the journey you have taken. I don't know you, but I actually feel very proud of you. D
I am assuming in your post, you mean "Student of Allah", and not "Soldier of Allah" as I have previously read some of the posts he has written to you-with great patience!
I get a feeling you came to my part of the world. Did you come to the markaz in Savile Town and visit the "Shariah Court" here? Where I live, is the Mecca of Sunniism in England.
Congratulations and welcome to your freedom. May God give you, and all of us, the ability to progress as His loyal servant(s).
Peace.
Yes hihi I ment student of Allah . He explained to me that ulama aren't "experts" as they read the same Quran as us and therefore what they say are nothing more then pure opinions and that they aren't scientific as well since there is no science over "science of Hadith".
Yesss UK is Mecca of sunnism as you call it , when I made dawa UK was my favorite place. In Spain most marroccans aren't religious at all, in fact they don't care about sharia neither do they care about ulama. They are mostly just Muslims by culture and Islam is for them is mostly just celebrating eid. Most of the marroccans I know I Spain litterly just laughed at me and asked me to "get a life" when I was doing dawa. So I visited holland where my mothers brother live and there is many marroccans in holland but 90% of all I met were not religious either, in fact one marroccan guy even told me that "I wasn't welcome" in holland! So I litterly fled to UK just to give my dawa a last chance and I was so so surprised that UK is just the opposite of Spain and holland.. I saw many Muslim women wearing hijab and niqaab in UK and many men having beard.. Not only that, many Pakistanis and Indians also came to listen to me and they were all so extreme Sunnis like myself. I used to sit with them and backbite the European society .. How the European women looked like whores and how they would all go to hell .. And how they are in war against Islam.. Many of the Muslims in UK who I spoke to openly supported sharia and they would tell me that sharia is actually being implemented in UK by sharia courts and soon inshallah UK would become a sharia state. We also tried to call kafir murdads to dawa but when we preached dawa to them we would always be careful about not mentioning anything offending to them.. WE Wont reveal our deep detest for them neither would we reveal any negativity about Islam to them.. The trick is to use straw man fallacy and talk with them about matters which most human beings would agree to and to emphasize and exaggerate the problems in the west. For instance we would exaggerate the rape statistics in UK and then provide hijab as a solution.. But in the same time be careful not to mention the rape statistics in Saudi Arabia (which is much higher) or reveal to them that you need 4 witnesses to prove a rape ... Or to mention that rape is allowed during war time through slavery.. And we would preach that Islam didn't have priesthood as they have in Christianity and carefully avoid to mention the role of our ULAMA.. It was from the goat looking guy with the funny English accent called Zakir naik which we got all these ideas from .. I don't know if you know him . . I was in Manchester, York, Birmingham, Nottingham and just briefly in London . Everyone I met in UK would say "subhanallah subhanallah " everytime I said anything and they would proudly remind each other that I was only 14 years old but "subhanallah" had so much knowledge of Quran and sunnah. As an Arab I am fluent in Arabic so the Pakistanis and Indians had deep respect for me and come to me with questions about Islam . I really didn't wanted to return from UK, so when I returned to Spain I told my mother that I wanted to move to UK as I found "true" Muslims there. I was fed up by the marroccan murdads in Spain and holland who insulted me or laughed at me instead of supporting my dawa.
But when I spoke to student of Allah I became uncertain about my faith for the first Time and took a break from free minds in order to study the issue for mer which ultimately made me leave sunnism. Today I can see that the marroccans in Spain and holland was right while the Muslims in UK were a bunch of ignorant ungrateful haters as I was myself. I would just have hoped that the marroccans who I knew I Spain would have tried to help me out of sunnism instead of laughing at me, then I would perhaps have had left sunnism long ago.
I think it's only god who can help UK from the Sunni hell which exists there.One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?