From sunnah hero to sunnah zero
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About the issue of women
I still can't understand how somebody can hate women; thought I have never feel hate for anybody; not even in my worst nightmares I have been feeling hate for women. For me that just sounds impossible, they bear us with hardship, they feed us, they raise us, etc. To me they look like something fragile that should be handled with care and love (I know, I know there are tough/strong women, and that they are not different than men except in the flesh, this is just to explain why I can never feel hate toward them). Hating women is like hating your own mother and your sisters, that is a horrible disease of the heart.I feel sad when women are led astray and misuse by society, leading them astray by their own vanity. but not all the blame is on one side only. Read this Suna Hero you say you are from Spain I am from Mex.
english translation at the end
translations of poems are not the same; but here translator did a good job.Hombres necios que acus?is a la mujer sin raz?n de Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz(12 November 1651 ? 17 April 1695)
Hombres necios que acus?is
a la mujer sin raz?n,
sin ver que sois la ocasi?n
de lo mismo que culp?issi con ansia sin igual
solicit?is su desd?n,
?por qu? quer?is que obren bien
si la incit?is al mal?Cambat?s su resistencia
y luego, con gravedad,
dec?s que fue liviandad
lo que hizo la diligencia.Parecer quiere el denuedo
de vuestro parecer loco
el ni?o que pone el coco
y luego le tiene miedo.Quer?is, con presunci?n necia,
hallar a la que busc?is,
para pretendida, Thais,
y en la posesi?n, Lucrecia.?Qu? humor puede ser m?s raro
que el que, falto de consejo,
?l mismo empa?a el espejo,
y siente que no est? claro?Con el favor y desd?n
ten?is condici?n igual,
quej?ndoos, si os tratan mal,
burl?ndoos, si os quieren bien.Siempre tan necios and?is
que, con desigual nivel,
a una culp?is por cr?el
y a otra por f?cil culp?is.?Pues como ha de estar templada
la que vuestro amor pretende,
si la que es ingrata, ofende,
y la que es f?cil, enfada?Mas, entre el enfado y pena
que vuestro gusto refiere,
bien haya la que no os quiere
y quejaos en hora buena.Dan vuestras amantes penas
a sus libertades alas,
y despu?s de hacerlas malas
las quer?is hallar muy buenas.?Cu?l mayor culpa ha tenido
en una pasi?n errada
la que cae de rogada,
o el que ruega de ca?do??O cu?l es m?s de culpar,
aunque cualquiera mal haga
la que peca por la paga,
o el que paga por pecar?Pues ?para qu? os espant?is
de la culpa que ten?is?
Queredlas cual las hac?is
o hacedlas cual las busc?is.Dejad de solicitar,
y despu?s, con m?s raz?n,
acusar?is la afici?n
de la que os fuere a rogar.Bien con muchas armas fundo
que lidia vuestra arrogancia,
pues en promesa e instancia
junt?is diablo, carne y mundo.(English)
stubborn men that accuse women withouth reason. From Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz(12 November 1651 ? 17 April 1695)
Silly, you men-so very adept
at wrongly faulting womankind,
not seeing you're alone to blame
for faults you plant in woman's mind.After you've won by urgent plea
the right to tarnish her good name,
you still expect her to behave?
you, that coaxed her into shame.You batter her resistance down
and then, all righteousness, proclaim
that feminine frivolity,
not your persistence, is to blame.When it comes to bravely posturing,
your witlessness must take the prize
you're the child that makes a bogeyman,
and then recoils in fear and cries.Presumptuous beyond belief,
you'd have the woman you pursue
be Thais when you're courting her,
Lucretia once she falls to you.For plain default of common sense,
could any action be so queer
as oneself to cloud the mirror,
then complain that it's not clear?Whether you're favored or disdained,
nothing can leave you satisfied.
You whimper if you're turned away,
you sneer if you've been gratified.With you, no woman can hope to score;
whichever way, she's bound to lose;
spurning you, she's ungrateful?
succumbing, you call her lewd.Your folly is always the same
you apply a single rule
to the one you accuse of looseness
and the one you brand as cruel.What happy mean could there be
for the woman who catches your eye,
if, unresponsive, she offends,
yet whose complaisance you decry?Still, whether it's torment or anger?
and both ways you've yourselves to blame?
God bless the woman who won't have you,
no matter how loud you complain.It's your persistent entreaties
that change her from timid to bold.
Having made her thereby naughty,
you would have her good as gold.So where does the greater guilt lie
for a passion that should not be
with the man who pleads out of baseness
or the woman debased by his plea?Or which is more to be blamed?
though both will have cause for chagrin
the woman who sins for money
or the man who pays money to sin?So why are you men all so stunned
at the thought you're all guilty alike?
Either like them for what you've made them
or make of them what you can like.If you'd give up pursuing them,
you'd discover, without a doubt,
you've a stronger case to make
against those who seek you out.I well know what powerful arms
you wield in pressing for evil
your arrogance is allied
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When The British conquered the middle east in the late 1800 (sorry if I am wrong) 1'st world war was between Germany and Britain for control of oil in middle east. Anyway , they thought carefully about who to put in power in each of the new countries they formed and named. Guess who they put. the most hypocrite people that they could find. As Example Arabia. don't take my word for it Read.
o a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace
997 The Arabs of the desert are the worst in Unbelief and hypocrisy, and most fitted to be in ignorance of the command which Allah hath sent down to His Apostle But Allah is All-knowing, All-Wise.
Al-aAArabu ashaddu kufran wanifaqanwaajdaru alla yaAAlamoo hudooda ma anzalaAllahu AAala rasoolihi waAllahuAAaleemun hakeemunAlways wondered why that is translated this way when they Arabic just says 'the Arabs' ???
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a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace
From my experience, because, they want to emulate the Arabs.
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o a whole part of my history I knew nothing about but I doubt this has anything to do with the UK muslims being over zealous, most of the over zealous sunni muslims in UK are of Pakistani descent. peace
Sorry AYISHA if you don't know your own history the counties you know now did'n exist before the fall of the ottoman empire 18/19 century.
Naming the Arabs was just an example to portrait the image of the feed licking monarchies and dictators own by the west; most middle eastern muslims are westerners wannabes pakistanies are no different, so their hypocrite rulers put weight on their shoulder with their stupid laws in order to accelerate the process of self destroying islam. And if you tell them that they are corrupting the land, they will answer that they are only making things better.
Name a country in the middle east that its people is not wishing to be like the west and have what the west has, or be their allies/friends . though God says in the Qura'n that god will beautify the life of his enemies and forbids the muslim from desiring what he will give them. And God forbids the muslims from becoming allies of the unbelievers and helping them to kill their own brothers. Name one country.
True piety is not to prostrate to the east or to the west, but true piety is to obey the laws of the omnipotent, supreme ruler, creator of all that exist.
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wow That is a great story there. Welcome brother. And don't feel embarrassed, you're only human after all, just like the rest of us, yeah? And now that you're on the right path, you can repent to God for your mistakes and keep holding firmly to your beliefs, let go of the past and move on forward, focus on your future. D God truly does guide people who seek the truth, like you did.
Peace.
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One thing I never understood is why is the Muslims in UK so extreme in their religion compared to Muslims in other countries ?
Interesting question. I am doing my dissertation on this at the moment. I can send it to you when I finish, if you like.
Salam,
We would love to read the result of your work. Please do share it with us when you have finished.
Thanks.
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From my experience, because, they want to emulate the Arabs.
Identity crisis maybe? Not able to be British they look for an identity that seperates them from the British. Also many have lost link with their cultural Islam so they follow the fiqh more. And last its also Saudi influence and wahhabism in the UK.
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Salam Aleykom!
What a coincidence. I was just reading some of your old pro-sunnism posts the other day...masha Allah. amazing how someone can change. I'm very curious to know what Student of Allah told you that convinced you, so I will sort through your posts and find out (I think it could be of great reference for when talking to my sunni friends).
I'm not going to say Congrats on finally finding the right path! Because I'd feel sort of self righteous, and I'm constantly ignorant of my "path" status with Allah. I'm always hoping I'm being guided and that I'm on the right path. I feel like if I had been wrong before, maybe I could be wrong again. Who knows. But for now I feel sound, al hamdulilah ).
But I want to congratulate you on your own personal spiritual evolution! And I'm happy you were at least able to see things from a different perspective and break free from all the dogma and culture around you. hurray!!
May Allah guide us all, Always!
Welcome, Bro!