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If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword

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    The_Chimp
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    It is true for those whose understanding and faith is equal to those in kindergarten...

    We cannot forever be in kindergarten, can we? laugh

    And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind
    They have hearts
    with which they do not understand
    they have eyes
    with which they do not see
    and they have ears
    with which they do not hear
    Those are like livestock
    rather, they are more astray
    It is they who are the heedless
    (7.179)

    And whenever a surah is revealed
    there are among the hypocrites those who say
    "Which of you has this increased faith?"

    As for those who believed
    it has increased them in faith
    while they are rejoicing

    But as for those in whose hearts is disease
    it (verses from the Quran) has increased them in evil to their evil
    And they will have died while they are disbelievers
    (9.124)

    And ouch .. it doesn't say your scholars...

    And from them
    We appointed leaders
    giving guidance under Our Command

    AS LONG as <- two primary conditions to become Muslim leaders/scholars/messenger etc.

    they struggled with patience
    and had certainty regarding Our revelations

    (32.24)

    Your scholars believe in Bukhary and others more than Allah

    They do not have absolute faith in the Quran..

    and therefore, they are not Muslim leaders/scholars.

    and therefore, there is no reason for me to believe what they say.

    ....sorry for the interruption.. drfazl.

    Well said . . . as it is kids that use insults as sufficient form of reply. What was put to you - that you were unable to answer . . . once again.

    Isn't it a wonder that "Quran only" are actually about disregarding Hadith and the established faith rather than using Quran itself.

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      muslims
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      I wonder how a sectarian can understand Islam... impossible! laugh

      as equal to fresh water and sea water..

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        The_Chimp
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        I wonder how a sectarian can understand Islam... impossible! as equal to fresh water and sea water.. laugh

        And you are not a sect? How pathetic . . . every "sect" claims that only they are Islam and others are sect. "Quran only" too is a sect.


        Has any of you got brains? Or is it all petty insults. . .

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          The_Chimp
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          I didn't get anything . . . other than quotes! How strange. . . can you not answer?

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            muslims
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            And you are not a sect? How pathetic . . . every "sect" claims that only they are Islam and others are sect. "Quran only" too is a sect.

            Some here are sectarians.. but I'm not..

            Of course, when people mention about a certain religion, I will answer to my self.. "that is my religion". All these faiths are my religion. I am an Atheist, Sunnist, Shi'ite, Hadither, Quranist/Submitter/Code 19, Hinduist, Buddhist, Taoist, Judist, Christian, Sikhist, Spiritualist, Humanist, Satanist, Luciferianist and practising all other faiths, not prostrating to Allah Alone or ByGod, but both to Allah and Adam.

            I practices ALL KNOWN RELIGIONS, AND BEYOND RELIGIONS!

            I only have two perspectives.. just, or unjust. That's it.

            bye.

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              The_Chimp
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              Nope..

              bye.

              Simple "nope" . . . ha ha ha . . . of course it is a "sect" . . . and what is even more laughable and pathetic . . . that you are sectarian. There is strand here about marriages with "Quran only". Sectarian. And that is just one example.

              So a simple "nope" - just reveals dishonesty.

              Of course, when people mention about a certain religion, I will answer to my self.. "that is my religion". All these faiths are my religion. I am an Atheist, Sunnist, Shi'ite, Hadither, Quranist/Submitter/Code 19, Hinduist, Buddhist, Taoist, Judist, Christian, Sikhist, Spiritualist, Humanist, Satanist, Luciferianist and practising all other faiths, not prostrating to Allah Alone or ByGod, but both to Allah and Adam.

              I practices ALL KNOWN RELIGIONS, AND BEYOND RELIGIONS!

              Ah . . . the Quran only and committing of Shirk? Or Quran only running to other sources? Or is it . . . Quran only pinching from Sufism? Ibn Arabi in particular?

              Of course it is a bye . . . when you no longer can answer - it is a "bye".

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                drfazl
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                bye.

                This single word carries lots of meaning going by its 'Root letters'.

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                  muslims
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                  going by its 'Root letters'.

                  Mankind was one single nation (2.213)

                  One..

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                    The_Chimp
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                    This single word carries lots of meaning going by its 'Root letters'.

                    I asked you a question earlier . . . could you not answer?

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                      drfazl
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                      Mankind was one single nation (2.213)

                      True

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                        drfazl
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                        I asked you a question earlier . . . could you not answer?

                        Root letters for what?

                        I think you can open up your eyes and read again
                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344551#msg344551

                        Now my question and challenge to you.
                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344555#msg344555

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                          The_Chimp
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                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344551#msg344551

                          Then I do not understand your answer. Please clarify.

                          But when Allah Himself gives them the 'SPECIFIC ROOT LETTERS' for the entire Quran

                          How are they "root letter" for the entire Quran?

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                            The_Chimp
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                            I think you can open up your eyes and read again
                            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344551#msg344551

                            Now my question and challenge to you.
                            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344555#msg344555

                            Try not getting rude . . . rather please answer - if not leave it. How am I meant to understand your quote? I don't. This is why I am asking you to explain.

                            Don't start issuing challenges . . . if you can answer please . . . else you simply made up whole lot of nonsense and can no longer account for it.

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                              drfazl
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                              I bet the lot of you self medicate . . . why bother with doctors!

                              Do you also represent yourself if hauled before a magistrate?

                              All the patients do finally arrive at ICU placing their blood, body, soul and money at the feet of bunch of doctors before they die. And upon their death their relatives, dear and near ones would say All is Allah's; all belongs to Allah; all is done by Allah; and what would the poor doctors do.

                              For you the best of judges is magistrate.
                              And for me the Best of all judges is Allah.

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                                drfazl
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                                Try not getting rude . . . rather please answer - if not leave it. How am I meant to understand your quote? I don't. This is why I am asking you to explain.

                                Don't start issuing challenges . . . if you can answer please . . . else you simply made up whole lot of nonsense and can no longer account for it.

                                Now I have to say "bye" to you

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                                  The_Chimp
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                                  Now I have to say "bye" to you

                                  Say it . . . but I asked a simple question . . . and all I got was whole lot of nonsense.

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                                    muslims
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                                    Now I have to say "bye" to you

                                    You should.. he might have difficulties to understand what is an argument, and what is quarrelling. laugh

                                    http//i44.tinypic.com/2ijnas0.gif

                                    Guess he and his scholars will be in that tree forever... laughing and testing others to climb that same tree.

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                                      dr_rks
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                                      Peace Dr.Fazl

                                      Everyday and every walk of life we are getting good guidance from the almighty. But we dont believe in allah's grace,we believe in only money,our children and human help. We neglect the needs of fellow humans since we are busy saving up money for our extravagances. We receive good blessings for the good deeds we do and viceversa. Almost all the inflictions upon us are brought about by our miser attitude, most of the times.

                                      This ayat 1976 and 1977 guiding us with your explanation.

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                                        drfazl
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                                        "And Allah increases those who were guided, in guidance, and the enduring good deeds are better to your Lord for reward and better for recourse." 1976

                                        Sure dr.rks we shall know the patience and endurance is the most commendable of all good works on this earth. It is so commendable Allah is always with us so dearly near. That is great soothing resourceful touch of words from Allah.

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                                          Zulf
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                                          No Seeking of Increase in Wealth and Children

                                          Most of us are weak enough in Iman due to our lack of association free allegiance to Allah. And Allah asserts this too in Chapter Yusuf, "And most of them believe not in Allah except while they associate other than Him with Him." There is an element of shirk in the hearts of most of every one of all walks, however greatly endowed may he be, in his belief in God. This means shaitan is the chief element destroying our hearts, marring the prospects of our beautiful life of paradise/jannah starting from this world itself, right away. Every one knows well it is only by His Grace, all the elements of goods we are experiencing and living such moments at any point of time in our lives. But we are ungrateful nevertheless; we keep rejecting or forgetting due to lack of thankfulness and remembering Him more and more praising His Glory. It is because of our pride in our hearts, the words of shaitans, that whisper and say 'all glory be to us! all glory be to us!' with or without our knowledge. The more we hear to such dishonourable words from shaitan, the more forgetful we become of Allah and the more ungrateful we are in the eyes of Allah. We are rejecters knowingly or unknowingly because of our element of pride.

                                          As long as we live in this world none is free from this element of rejection, association, as a result engaging in argumentation, creating chaos and confusion to the bliss of Iblis; and to the great dissatisfaction of malayikas. If our intent is to be forgiven for these short comings all we shall ask is O Allah, the God of all universes forgive our sins; cleanse our hearts and purify our souls from shirk. More to this, we need patience and kindness towards the believers with such of those short comings that any one of us have with only certain variations in degrees and grades, swinging in ups and down. We shall have some amount fear all the time without finding fault with one another; and without becoming proud when we increase in the worldly pleasures and things. We should know at this that having all those short comings it is not that Allah is rewarding us with His bounties but as only a test more severe and severe to see how we behave. This is the reason why we have to spend from our earnings a beautiful part towards beautiful activities, pleasing to God. This is doing zakath; not giving zakath. Zakath means purification from pride and self glorification. If one is fearing God it is because of his learning and understanding this truth. But those who are arrogant with pride, Allah warns us the see them that say 1977 "Have you, then, seen him who rejects Our communications and says I shall certainly be given wealth and children?"

                                          The pious ones as believers that they are, they accept they have rejection element in their hearts and it is Allah who forgives such of the evil in us slowly and steadily; He is raising us to purification of our souls; and He ordains upon us to spend from what He had given us, and start doing it from now on. Allah says I measure your requirements and needs; it is not you would assess your needs. Become humble before me and do not advance before me priding yourself you are the earner for all your future.

                                          Those who behave contrarily are those who would be tested severely in this world with poverty and afflictions. If we have to remove our poverty and diseases and feel safe about these things for the entire tomorrows to come, never show your pride before others and spend more in the good cause humbly. The only good cause is spending to cause increase the belief and piety in God and free the community from rejection of the Truth.

                                          Wonderful!!! bravo

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