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If "Only Allah", then "Allah Alone" is our watchword

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    drfazl
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    Scholarly Ignorance

    Arabic scholars search meanings for every word of Quran by their 'Root Letters'. But when Allah Himself gives them the 'SPECIFIC ROOT LETTERS' for the entire Quran, they reject it as no more than an empty pot.

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      The_Chimp
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      I bet the lot of you self medicate . . . why bother with doctors!

      Do you also represent yourself if hauled before a magistrate?

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        drfazl
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        Chimp is no Champ

        Peace,

        I would appreciate you giving the wisdom and sign from the following "Grand Signs of Allah" using only the Arabic used in the verses below; and explain each verse in simple and plain English, using your Arabic linguistic excellence alone bring out each of their Signs of admonitions and glad tidings so that it strengthens my iman in Allah; and therewith I become a muslim unto Allah, and at salam with Allah as the malayika receive my soul with "Salam" adjudging me as a muslim finally, by the leave of Allah, The All-Knowing, The Knower of All Languages, thus Him making me among "the Foremost".

        891 By the Dawn

        892 By the Nights twice five

        893 By the even and odd

        (By Allah, Chimp is no champ)

        Peace

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          drfazl
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          O People of The Book
          19 1
          Kaf Ha Ya Ain Saad

          Kaf - KAF - SUFFICIENT Is He
          Ha - HUDHA - To put you in the STRAIGHT PATH
          Ya - YAMEEN - FLOURISHING in
          Ain - ILM - The WISDOM and in
          Saad - SADAQ - The TRUTH.

          O People Of The Book!
          19 1 SUFFICIENT is HE to put you in the STRAIGHT PATH, FLOURISHING in the WISDOM and in the TRUTH.

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            muslims
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            Yet Quran claims it is an Arabic Quran.

            It is true for those whose understanding and faith is equal to those in kindergarten...

            We cannot forever be in kindergarten, can we? laugh

            And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind
            They have hearts
            with which they do not understand
            they have eyes
            with which they do not see
            and they have ears
            with which they do not hear
            Those are like livestock
            rather, they are more astray
            It is they who are the heedless
            (7.179)

            And whenever a surah is revealed
            there are among the hypocrites those who say
            "Which of you has this increased faith?"

            As for those who believed
            it has increased them in faith
            while they are rejoicing

            But as for those in whose hearts is disease
            it (verses from the Quran) has increased them in evil to their evil
            And they will have died while they are disbelievers
            (9.124)

            And ouch .. it doesn't say your scholars...

            And from them
            We appointed leaders
            giving guidance under Our Command

            AS LONG as <- two primary conditions to become Muslim leaders/scholars/messenger etc.

            they struggled with patience
            and had certainty regarding Our revelations

            (32.24)

            Your scholars believe in Bukhary and others more than Allah

            They do not have absolute faith in the Quran..

            and therefore, they are not Muslim leaders/scholars.

            and therefore, there is no reason for me to believe their teachings/religions.

            ....sorry for the interruption.. drfazl.

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              drfazl
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              You are very very welcome, muslims.
              May Allah Bless You.

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                The_Chimp
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                It is true for those whose understanding and faith is equal to those in kindergarten...

                We cannot forever be in kindergarten, can we? laugh

                And We have certainly created for Hell many of the jinn and mankind
                They have hearts
                with which they do not understand
                they have eyes
                with which they do not see
                and they have ears
                with which they do not hear
                Those are like livestock
                rather, they are more astray
                It is they who are the heedless
                (7.179)

                And whenever a surah is revealed
                there are among the hypocrites those who say
                "Which of you has this increased faith?"

                As for those who believed
                it has increased them in faith
                while they are rejoicing

                But as for those in whose hearts is disease
                it (verses from the Quran) has increased them in evil to their evil
                And they will have died while they are disbelievers
                (9.124)

                And ouch .. it doesn't say your scholars...

                And from them
                We appointed leaders
                giving guidance under Our Command

                AS LONG as <- two primary conditions to become Muslim leaders/scholars/messenger etc.

                they struggled with patience
                and had certainty regarding Our revelations

                (32.24)

                Your scholars believe in Bukhary and others more than Allah

                They do not have absolute faith in the Quran..

                and therefore, they are not Muslim leaders/scholars.

                and therefore, there is no reason for me to believe what they say.

                ....sorry for the interruption.. drfazl.

                Well said . . . as it is kids that use insults as sufficient form of reply. What was put to you - that you were unable to answer . . . once again.

                Isn't it a wonder that "Quran only" are actually about disregarding Hadith and the established faith rather than using Quran itself.

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                  muslims
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                  I wonder how a sectarian can understand Islam... impossible! laugh

                  as equal to fresh water and sea water..

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                    The_Chimp
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                    I wonder how a sectarian can understand Islam... impossible! as equal to fresh water and sea water.. laugh

                    And you are not a sect? How pathetic . . . every "sect" claims that only they are Islam and others are sect. "Quran only" too is a sect.


                    Has any of you got brains? Or is it all petty insults. . .

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                      The_Chimp
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                      I didn't get anything . . . other than quotes! How strange. . . can you not answer?

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                        muslims
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                        And you are not a sect? How pathetic . . . every "sect" claims that only they are Islam and others are sect. "Quran only" too is a sect.

                        Some here are sectarians.. but I'm not..

                        Of course, when people mention about a certain religion, I will answer to my self.. "that is my religion". All these faiths are my religion. I am an Atheist, Sunnist, Shi'ite, Hadither, Quranist/Submitter/Code 19, Hinduist, Buddhist, Taoist, Judist, Christian, Sikhist, Spiritualist, Humanist, Satanist, Luciferianist and practising all other faiths, not prostrating to Allah Alone or ByGod, but both to Allah and Adam.

                        I practices ALL KNOWN RELIGIONS, AND BEYOND RELIGIONS!

                        I only have two perspectives.. just, or unjust. That's it.

                        bye.

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                          The_Chimp
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                          Nope..

                          bye.

                          Simple "nope" . . . ha ha ha . . . of course it is a "sect" . . . and what is even more laughable and pathetic . . . that you are sectarian. There is strand here about marriages with "Quran only". Sectarian. And that is just one example.

                          So a simple "nope" - just reveals dishonesty.

                          Of course, when people mention about a certain religion, I will answer to my self.. "that is my religion". All these faiths are my religion. I am an Atheist, Sunnist, Shi'ite, Hadither, Quranist/Submitter/Code 19, Hinduist, Buddhist, Taoist, Judist, Christian, Sikhist, Spiritualist, Humanist, Satanist, Luciferianist and practising all other faiths, not prostrating to Allah Alone or ByGod, but both to Allah and Adam.

                          I practices ALL KNOWN RELIGIONS, AND BEYOND RELIGIONS!

                          Ah . . . the Quran only and committing of Shirk? Or Quran only running to other sources? Or is it . . . Quran only pinching from Sufism? Ibn Arabi in particular?

                          Of course it is a bye . . . when you no longer can answer - it is a "bye".

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                            drfazl
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                            bye.

                            This single word carries lots of meaning going by its 'Root letters'.

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                              muslims
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                              going by its 'Root letters'.

                              Mankind was one single nation (2.213)

                              One..

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                                The_Chimp
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                                This single word carries lots of meaning going by its 'Root letters'.

                                I asked you a question earlier . . . could you not answer?

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                                  drfazl
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                                  Mankind was one single nation (2.213)

                                  True

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                                    drfazl
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                                    I asked you a question earlier . . . could you not answer?

                                    Root letters for what?

                                    I think you can open up your eyes and read again
                                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344551#msg344551

                                    Now my question and challenge to you.
                                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344555#msg344555

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                                      The_Chimp
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                                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344551#msg344551

                                      Then I do not understand your answer. Please clarify.

                                      But when Allah Himself gives them the 'SPECIFIC ROOT LETTERS' for the entire Quran

                                      How are they "root letter" for the entire Quran?

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                                        The_Chimp
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                                        I think you can open up your eyes and read again
                                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344551#msg344551

                                        Now my question and challenge to you.
                                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604771.msg344555#msg344555

                                        Try not getting rude . . . rather please answer - if not leave it. How am I meant to understand your quote? I don't. This is why I am asking you to explain.

                                        Don't start issuing challenges . . . if you can answer please . . . else you simply made up whole lot of nonsense and can no longer account for it.

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                                          drfazl
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                                          I bet the lot of you self medicate . . . why bother with doctors!

                                          Do you also represent yourself if hauled before a magistrate?

                                          All the patients do finally arrive at ICU placing their blood, body, soul and money at the feet of bunch of doctors before they die. And upon their death their relatives, dear and near ones would say All is Allah's; all belongs to Allah; all is done by Allah; and what would the poor doctors do.

                                          For you the best of judges is magistrate.
                                          And for me the Best of all judges is Allah.

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