Day & Night Phenomenon described in the quran
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"Can it be a day without a land ?"
Perhaps yes - I do not really know. I have never faced the question like this.
However - what I am sure of - you can discuss day and night - independent of land. It is often done so. If you talk about "day and night" - it doesn't automatically lead to "land". There is not a hint of implication about land in the 4 verses which you quoted.
"The verses are very clear to me even in Arabic better than in English and i have discussed those verses with my cousin who is
professor in Islamic religion and he agreed with me too."You avoided answering. Also which university is your cousin professor at? His name?
"i don't know why you can't get it,it is so simple and easy to understand."
It isn't that your point is hard to get . . . just that it is inaccurate and novel. Who else has the similar view? Perhaps someone else has described in greater length?
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"Can it be a day without a land ?"
Perhaps yes - I do not really know. I have never faced the question like this.
However - what I am sure of - you can discuss day and night - independent of land. It is often done so. If you talk about "day and night" - it doesn't automatically lead to "land". There is not a hint of implication about land in the 4 verses which you quoted.
i am afraid you are ignorant in science,day and night belong to land,let me describe it as follow land ON(Day).land OFF(night)
i can't help you if you don't want to understand or except if you just like to memorize how scholars interpreted it hundreds years ago which you think that they were right,but no they weren't as today we can understand the quran much better with modern science as we did also understand the verse describing the universe as being one piece which wasn't known to them or the creation of earth while the sky was smoke which i have discussed it also with Ahmed Bilal who was similar to you opposing that the quran did know such modern findings in science.tempt
"The verses are very clear to me even in Arabic better than in English and i have discussed those verses with my cousin who is
professor in Islamic religion and he agreed with me too."You avoided answering. Also which university is your cousin professor at? His name?
i don't have to tell you what is his name or the university which he graduated from,sorry,what about telling my mother name too.
It isn't that your point is hard to get . . . just that it is inaccurate and novel. Who else has the similar view? Perhaps someone else has described in greater length?
Who are you to judge and saying it is inaccurate ? you are not even saying god knows better,what kind of rudeness is this ?
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"i am afraid you are ignorant in science"
No - I am not. . . but science is big subject - there is no man who is competent in the whole subject. It is pretty meaningless to say what you said. There are elements I am far more competent than others.
"day and night belong to land,let me describe it as follow land ON(Day).land OFF(night)"
What science is this?
"i can't help you if you don't want to understand or except if you just like to memorize how scholars interpreted it hundreds years ago which you think that they were right,but no they weren't as today we can understand the quran much better with modern science as we did also understand the verse describing the universe as being one piece which wasn't known to them or the creation of earth while the sky was smoke which i have discussed it also with Ahmed Bilal who was similar to you opposing that the quran did know such modern findings in science."
Another bizarre response . . . just drivel . . . if you are going to explain something - then do so . . . what is harping on about me got to do with it?
"who was similar to you opposing that the quran did know such modern findings in science."
I don't know Ahmed Bilal - and this is out right wrong . . . have some shame in making things up about others - which you do clearly do not know.
"i don't have to tell you what is his name or the university which he graduated from,sorry,what about telling my mother name too."
What has your mother's name got to do with it? Is she professor in Islam too? See - I don't believe you.
"Who are you to judge and saying it is inaccurate ? you are not even saying god knows better,what kind of rudeness is this ?"
Try reading your own responses . . .
Poor and very poor. You made all this drivel up - when it is exposed - you have got nowhere to go . . . what are you going to invent?
Another cousin who is professor of science, somewhere?
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"i am afraid you are ignorant in science"
No - I am not. . . but science is big subject - there is no man who is competent in the whole subject. It is pretty meaningless to say what you said. There are elements I am far more competent than others.
"day and night belong to land,let me describe it as follow land ON(Day).land OFF(night)"
What science is this?
it is marine science.
Another bizarre response . . . just drivel . . . if you are going to explain something - then do so . . . what is harping on about me got to do with it?
"who was similar to you opposing that the quran did know such modern findings in science."
I don't know Ahmed Bilal - and this is out right wrong . . . have some shame in making things up about others - which you do clearly do not know.
i have explained it and you can't get it,thats it.
Try reading your own responses . . .
Poor and very poor. You made all this drivel up - when it is exposed - you have got nowhere to go . . . what are you going to invent?
Another cousin who is professor of science, somewhere?
Exposed.
Who did expose it,you or Ahmed Bilal which you even don't know him,you aren't even reading the responces in this thread.
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"it is marine science."
No it isn't - it is Astronomy and Physics. Oceanography is to do with oceans!
"i have explained it and you can't get it,thats it."
You have explained it - and as I pointed out - your explanations are wacky - to say the least. After that - you have gone into drivel - read you last comment back to yourself.
"Who did expose it"
Me - you do not know what you are talking about. End of. You made this up - and that is it. You have no command over Arabic - and let's not mess about - you do not know much "science" either.
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"it is marine science."
No it isn't - it is Astronomy and Physics. Oceanography is to do with oceans!
"i have explained it and you can't get it,thats it."
You have explained it - and as I pointed out - your explanations are wacky - to say the least. After that - you have gone into drivel - read you last comment back to yourself.
"Who did expose it"
Me - you do not know what you are talking about. End of. You made this up - and that is it. You have no command over Arabic - and let's not mess about - you do not know much "science" either.
You have exposed it. rotfl
By saying "There is no relation between land ,day & night".
Please i don't have a lot of time to waste with ******
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You have exposed it. rotfl
By saying "There is no relation between land ,day & night".
Please i don't have a lot of time to waste with ******
You have nothing more to say . . . you have claimed many false things - which have are outright lies . . . you have made silly mistakes . . .
I have NOT said this
"There is no relation between land ,day & night"
You are lying outright . . . . that is really low!
Look mate - just stop the nonsense.
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You have nothing more to say . . . you have claimed many false things - which have are outright lies . . . you have made silly mistakes . . .
I have NOT said this
"There is no relation between land ,day & night"
You are lying outright . . . . that is really low!
Look mate - just stop the nonsense.
You are in the same line with Ahmed Bilal in denying the truth in the quran,but the truth is clear and obvious
and no one can stop it.You have bring nothing but your silly argument about what the day and night to do with the land.
Are you serious or kidding,i can't believe that you are that ignorant. -
You are in the same line with Ahmed Bilal in denying the truth in the quran,but the truth is clear and obvious
and no one can stop it.You have bring nothing but your silly argument about what the day and night to do with the land.
Are you serious or kidding,i can't believe that you are that ignorant.You are getting personal and rather abusive . . . you made a lying quote up - and seem to have no shame in lying . . . I have fully exposed you. There is nothing more to say.
You do not understand Arabic.
You do not understand much science.
And you have no qualms in lying . -
You are getting personal and rather abusive . . . you made a lying quote up - and seem to have no shame in lying . . . I have fully exposed you. There is nothing more to say.
You do not understand Arabic.
You do not understand much science.
And you have no qualms in lying .You are even lying by saying that i don't understand arabic which is my native language.
Do you have anything to say other than there is no relation between the land with day and night,
if you have any serious argument than this silly one,then bring it here.The land is day and the land is night,but you want it to be the sky is day and the sky is night.
How silly is it ,it is really disgusting that there is such stupity in the 21th century.
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"You are even lying by saying that i don't understand arabic which is my native language."
You need to look up what lying is . . . it has taken you this long to say that Arabic is your native language?
Sure . . .
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"Do you have anything to say other than there is no relation between the land with day and night,"
You are stupidly repeating your lie. . . there is no point in that.
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Peace,
Both of you, stop, there is no point in your heated discussion. It has turned into a quarrel with personal attacks. It is leading absolutely nowhere and leads only to hatred. So unnecessary for people who wish to be muslims whose main aim is to gain a peace of mind.
It is lowly to say someone lacks knowledge or lack in anything to make them seem inferior. That is an arrogant approach.
Feargod was discussing something hypothetically and you only aggressively attack his Arabic and scientific knowledge? Since when is it absurd to voice one's opinion, no matter amateurish or professional?
Have anything to say then do so in a humble, less arrogant manner.
And feargod, please calm down and do no be so provoked by someone who intentionally works to make you go crazy. Remember what we have to do to be good muslims.
No bad intentions meant with this post. Just to try to settle your grudge.
God bless you
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Peace,
Both of you, stop, there is no point in your heated discussion. It has turned into a quarrel with personal attacks. It is leading absolutely nowhere and leads only to hatred. So unnecessary for people who wish to be muslims whose main aim is to gain a peace of mind.
It is lowly to say someone lacks knowledge or lack in anything to make them seem inferior. That is an arrogant approach.
Feargod was discussing something hypothetically and you only aggressively attack his Arabic and scientific knowledge? Since when is it absurd to voice one's opinion, no matter amateurish or professional?
Have anything to say then do so in a humble, less arrogant manner.
And feargod, please calm down and do no be so provoked by someone who intentionally works to make you go crazy. Remember what we have to do to be good muslims.
No bad intentions meant with this post. Just to try to settle your grudge.
God bless you
Salam Brother,
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes,i do admit that i failed to be patient with him while he was belittling me.
i was in doubt of his intention.Thank you for your valuable advice,brother
Peace
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Peace,
Both of you, stop, there is no point in your heated discussion. It has turned into a quarrel with personal attacks. It is leading absolutely nowhere and leads only to hatred. So unnecessary for people who wish to be muslims whose main aim is to gain a peace of mind.
It is lowly to say someone lacks knowledge or lack in anything to make them seem inferior. That is an arrogant approach.
Feargod was discussing something hypothetically and you only aggressively attack his Arabic and scientific knowledge? Since when is it absurd to voice one's opinion, no matter amateurish or professional?
Have anything to say then do so in a humble, less arrogant manner.
And feargod, please calm down and do no be so provoked by someone who intentionally works to make you go crazy. Remember what we have to do to be good muslims.
No bad intentions meant with this post. Just to try to settle your grudge.
God bless you
You - yourself are VERY arrogant . . . yet you have the habit of accusing others. WHy do you do this? It is to seek false credence.
It is simple . . .
He does NOT know much science at all.
He lied outright about his Arabic. He does NOT Know the language at all.
He lied about what I said.
One cannot deal with such people. I have clealr exposed him as liar. End of
"It is lowly to say someone lacks knowledge or lack in anything to make them seem inferior. That is an arrogant approach."
It even more lowly . . . and actually really low to claim knowledge of things you clearly do not have . . . and the proceed to mislead others.
"Feargod was discussing something hypothetically and you only aggressively attack his Arabic and scientific knowledge? Since when is it absurd to voice one's opinion, no matter amateurish or professional?"
Lying is outright wrong . . .and there is "hypothetical" about it.
You have simply picked his side - as he is a fellow brother . . . that is it.
"Have anything to say then do so in a humble, less arrogant manner."
Who are you to preach? Why don't you take your own advice?
"And feargod, please calm down and do no be so provoked by someone who intentionally works to make you go crazy. Remember what we have to do to be good muslims."
I take it . . . "lying" outright . . .isn't considered to be bad.
Grow up sonny . . it happens in ALL FORUMS . . . . when someone has different view than the majority
You get the "brothers" to close rank and support each other - no matter what.
It aint original - nor clever . . . and it too is form of lying. Rather than speaking the truth . . . .
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"Yes,i do admit that i failed to be patient with him while he was belittling me."
You chose to tell several lies . . .
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Arabic is your original tongue . . . it isn't. Then there was another lie - this cousin who is a professor of Islam.
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Science knowledge - you have none.
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You claimed I have said something - quoted it . . . but I had never said such thing.
Nope . . . you belittled your own self. I just don't suffer fools . . .never have - never will.
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"Yes,i do admit that i failed to be patient with him while he was belittling me."
You chose to tell several lies . . .
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Arabic is your original tongue . . . it isn't. Then there was another lie - this cousin who is a professor of Islam.
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Science knowledge - you have none.
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You claimed I have said something - quoted it . . . but I had never said such thing.
Nope . . . you belittled your own self. I just don't suffer fools . . .never have - never will.
The verses is enough for the wise to understand and realize the wonderful description for day and night phenomenon as mentioned in the quran.
Talk as much as you want,refute as much as you want and insult as much as you want,but you can't hide the truth.
Allah causeth the (revolution, flipping) of the day and the night. Lo! herein is indeed a lesson for those who see. (2444)
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<a href="http//www.wordreference.com/aren/%D9%8A%D9%82%D9%84%D8%A8">Check for the meanings of</a> of and compare it to the day and night phenomenon
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TURN UPSIDE DOWN
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He hath created the heavens and the earth with truth. He rolleth the night around the day, and rolleth the day around the night, and He hath subjected the sun and the moon each running on for a term appointed! Lo! He is the Mighty, the Forgiver. (395)
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Thou makest the night to enter into the day and Thou makest the day to enter into the night, Thou bringest forth the living from the dead and Thou bringest forth the dead from the living, and Thou providest whomsoever Thou wilt without reckoning. (327)
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@ FearGod
After this I am not going to respond. As there is no point.
The points I raised against you - do not disappear if you simply repeat your original argument. . .
Your failure to deal with them . . . and divert away in such manner . . . simply confirm my suspicions.
Why did you say - Arabic is your 1st tongue - when it isn't?
Why did you invent a cousin professor?
Why did you attributed a false quote towards me?
"Talk as much as you want,refute as much as you want and insult as much as you want,but you can't hide the truth."
Saying this is simply ridiculous . . .
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@ FearGod
After this I am not going to respond. As there is no point.
The points I raised against you - do not disappear if you simply repeat your original argument. . .
Your failure to deal with them . . . and divert away in such manner . . . simply confirm my suspicions.
Why did you say - Arabic is your 1st tongue - when it isn't?
Why did you invent a cousin professor?
Why did you attributed a false quote towards me?
"Talk as much as you want,refute as much as you want and insult as much as you want,but you can't hide the truth."
Saying this is simply ridiculous . . .
You are saying that i don't know arabic while i am showing the original word in arabic and it's meaning by google translator for the others to understand the wonderful meaning of the arabic word in the quran,but its up to you if you want to think that i don't know arabic and even if i don't know arabic how it will affect the meaning of the verses which is clear enough even in the english language.
What my cousin has to do with the verses which i have explained,yes he is a scholar and he agreed with me that i have found the perfect meaning of those verses and with no doubt,but why i have to tell you his name and he isn't famous such as Yusuf Estes or Abdulrahman Green.
Which false quote,bring it here.
Talk as much as you want,refute as much as you want and insult as much as you want,but you can't hide the truth
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Peace,
Your greediness to "win" arguments can make you consider if you are a good Believer, pixelrow. Do you know what being arrogant means in the first place?
It means you use your knowledge in selfish ways to belittle others and appear above others. Am I that?
Well, I tell you from your behavior. You may know more than me on some topics, but the behavior you show in front of these people makes me draw the final conclusion that you are pretty arrogant.
I want order and peace, to please God and help this community, does it make me arrogant? Certainly this opinion is from which viewpoint you have of the truth.
If you go here and attack people on sight and I ask you to stop this behavior, am I arrogant?
In case you continue I suppose moderators on this forum will take action.
God bless you regardless, to a better understanding
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"Your greediness to "win" arguments can make you consider if you are a good Believer, pixelrow."
This is all happening in your head . . . and nothing more. Hence - why you are following me around and putting up such petty accusations. It is quite simple . . . he lied - it is there in black and white.
End of.
"It means you use your knowledge in selfish ways to belittle others and appear above others. Am I that?"
Wrong - Arrogant has no such connotations . . .
making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud an arrogant public official.
2.
characterized by or proceeding from arrogance, or a sense of superiority, self-importance, or entitlement arrogant claims.http//dictionary.reference.com/browse/arrogant?s=t
"Well, I tell you from your behavior. You may know more than me on some topics, but the behavior you show in front of these people makes me draw the final conclusion that you are pretty arrogant."
I have said to you before . . . I am not one bit interested in petty squabbles with you . . . yet you repeatedly post after my posts - and call me names . . .
. . . you have nothing to add. . . then why do you do it?
What has this got to do with you?
"I want order and peace, to please God and help this community, does it make me arrogant? Certainly this opinion is from which viewpoint you have of the truth."
Illogical . . . what has your wanting peace got to do with arrogance?
"If you go here and attack people on sight and I ask you to stop this behavior, am I arrogant?"
Who are you to ask me to stop anything? What concern is it of yours?
You choose to attack me . . . I have no squabble with you here . . . so why did you start this?
It is easy to point at others . . . but I suggest give your own behaviour a review. This is finished.
As far as FearGod - goes . . .
He did lie . . . and that is explicit.
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Arabic is NOT his 1st language.
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he has no cousin who is a professor of Arabic.
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He made up a quote - and attributed it to me . . . yet I never said anything of the kind.
What did you do . . . support him. Well that is fine . . .
I will not be responding to this here again.
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