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    justamuslim
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    I think that all justmuslim's questions are fair and valid. If these questions cannot be answered then she has won the case and al-amiyr has been defeated. But if al-amiyr has answered all these questions then she is faced with making the correct choice which she knows what the consequences of the wrong decision will be.

    Noticed how you referred yourself in the third person - interesting.

    So is this how al-Amiyr sees things - a game about winning and being defeated?

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      farida
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      .. I just saw that in other thread. Ok al-Amiyr, PLEASE do not get sidetracked. Stay focused on your posts and my questions which shouldn't take much time. Remember just one or two questions in the next 9 days and God willing we will all come to see!

      So al-Amiyr, just ignore StopS for now please and stay focused.

      I just saw in other thread question for you. PLEASE do not get sidetracked. So just ignore for now please and stay focused
      Salaam

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        Amnew
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        Noticed how you referred yourself in the third person - interesting.

        So is this how al-Amiyr sees things - a game about winning and being defeated?

        Justamuslim - Speaking in third person is a symptom of dissociative personality disorder, also known as multiple personality disorder.

        Have you noticed al-amiyr speaking in the third person in other places? I will go through his previous posts and check.

        Very observant justamuslim! You noticed and found this behavior of al-amiyr's to be "interesting". Could you care to elaborate? Did his behavior strike you as being outside of normalcy? Curious to know your thoughts.

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          farida
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          Justamuslim - Speaking in third person is a symptom of dissociative personality disorder, also known as multiple personality disorder.

          Have you noticed al-amiyr speaking in the third person in other places? I will go through his previous posts and check.

          Very observant justamuslim! You noticed and found this behavior of al-amiyr's to be "interesting". Could you care to elaborate? Did his behavior strike you as being outside of normalcy? Curious to know your thoughts.

          So is this how YOU sees things - a game about whining and being defeated?
          jedi

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            Amnew
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            So is this how YOU sees things - a game about whining and being defeated?
            jedi

            Could you explain yourself?

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              SpaceTraveler
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              Could you explain yourself?

              This fighter of ladies just lost his mind.

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                Amnew
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                This fighter of ladies just lost his mind.

                Fighter of ladies? I see how you react to someone who exposes al-amiyr. So anyone who points out his behavior and actions are held in contempt and put downs.

                Again those who are not aware of or not familiar with persons with personality disorders in particular those suffering from religious grandiosity, notice how al-amiyr and his supporters respond to anyone who stands up, challenges, disagrees or exposes their behavior and characteristics. Justamuslim points that out when she first stood up in the thread on how shaytan works.

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                  Amnew
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                  Justamuslim, don't waste your time with al-amiyr. He is not going to answer your questions. he will say a whole bunch of things like he did with his family tree but never gave you a straight forward answers. whatever answers he does provide will be lies. Read my other postings. I suspect that you have figured this guy out but not really sure with your recent postings......

                  You have identified certain characteristics and behaviors about him. Something doesn't feel right about him to you - does it? Pay attention to that. Yes, this is all a game for al-amiyr. He likes and needs all this attention. By responding to him, you are feeding him and giving him what he craves. YES, he is manipulating you, trying to get you to do what he wants you to do. He is trying to control the situation by asking you to respond to his lesson in exchange for answering your questions. Don't fall for it.

                  You know how satan works. I know that you do. So stay smart and be firm in your faith. Do not respond to al-amiyr and his "supporters". Don't feed him with attention and don't waste your time. And why should you listen to me? I have background in psychiatry. But you don't have to take my word for it. You can discover on your own. You are a smart girl.

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                    justamuslim
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                    @amnew

                    I will read all of your other posts. I just got to read a couple. I am just exhausted. Had a very long day. I can barely keep my eyes open now and most certainly can't think straight. Gosh, this has been going on and on. I am getting to the point of not caring. I logged in to see if al-amiyr answered my questions but of course, disappointed again. brickwall I think you are right that if he hasn't answered my simple straight forward questions by now then he is not going to. Well, I am going to bed now as my eyes are starting to cross here.

                    Anyhow, thanks for your concerns. May I ask what you mean by having a background in psychiatry? Are you a psychiatrist? Are you a non-hadith follower? I dont think i saw your intro. forgive me if you did, but i am really exhausted now. What made you decide to join this forum? Would like to know and it would help to know who you are. Hopefully, you will answer my questions. Ok I really need to be in bed now. Goodnight.

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                      GODsubmitter
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                      Justamuslim, don't waste your time with al-amiyr. He is not going to answer your questions. he will say a whole bunch of things like he did with his family tree but never gave you a straight forward answers. whatever answers he does provide will be lies. Read my other postings. I suspect that you have figured this guy out but not really sure with your recent postings......

                      You have identified certain characteristics and behaviors about him. Something doesn't feel right about him to you - does it? Pay attention to that. Yes, this is all a game for al-amiyr. He likes and needs all this attention. By responding to him, you are feeding him and giving him what he craves. YES, he is manipulating you, trying to get you to do what he wants you to do. He is trying to control the situation by asking you to respond to his lesson in exchange for answering your questions. Don't fall for it.

                      You know how satan works. I know that you do. So stay smart and be firm in your faith. Do not respond to al-amiyr and his "supporters". Don't feed him with attention and don't waste your time. And why should you listen to me? I have background in psychiatry. But you don't have to take my word for it. You can discover on your own. You are a smart girl.

                      The whole publicity around this @al-amiyr issue starts looking like a childish, immature game...

                      I sense something doesn't feel quite right about it all...

                      I think Satan cannot do nothing to someone who doesn't succumb to his/her own "evil inclination".

                      In one of the very first appearances of @al-amyir, member @StopS wrote

                      Are you just going on with posting page by page after page for the next 2 years, promising explanations later and later while piling up the claims?

                      Your claims are laughable and wrong. They are not scientific. They are spiritual mumbo-jumbo. You are repeating and repeating yourself without any factual base.

                      Why can't you make one (1) claim, explain it and show that you know what you are doing? You have no clue what cosmology is and just want to mislead people with your nonsensical claims.

                      I have asked you some factual questions. It seems you are not only clueless in cosmogony but also unable to answer really simple, factual questions.

                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604738.msg315355#msg315355

                      The bold parts (underlined by me) starts to take relevance to me, after I've read all @al-amyir's posts...

                      I still dunno what to think... confused

                      BUT

                      I take refuge into the Allah, and God, blessed be He, from Satan the rejected!

                      Glory be to God, the Exalted One, the Eternal One, the One Who is far away from anything they might ascribe to Him!

                      peace

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                        Amnew
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                        I sense something doesn't feel quite right about it all...

                        I still dunno what to think... confused

                        Your senses are definitely right! What is it that is confusing to you? What is confusing to you might also be confusing to someone else. By talking aloud, you could help others who also dont know. Perhaps I or someone else can help in addressing what you are unsure of.

                        My advice place your trust in God only always and firmly. God will never lead you astray. And it is God who guides you, delivering you from darkness not this al-amiyr person who is suffering from delusions with religious overtones - has psychiatric disorder. There are people who suffer from mental illness as defined by DSM IV. I am familiar as I have training in psychiatry. I joined this forum to point his behavior and exposing him to people who don't know or not aware.

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                          Amnew
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                          Godsubmitter, letting you know that i cannot help if your confusion is over number and Arabic letters/language. Keep in mind that the postings are coming from a person who is suffering from mental disorder. Read about cult leaders and religious delusions.

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                            good_logic
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                            Peace Amnew.

                            By all means refute al-amiyr, give your views and opinions. However most brothers and sisters in this forum trust in God Alone. They will make up their own mind.

                            They are not going to follow you, me, al-amiyr or anyone else when it comes to "Deen".

                            They have God and His word.

                            But thanks anyway.

                            Peace.

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                              Man_of_Faith
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                              Peace,

                              Please let this al-amiyr be, we just pollute this forum with posts of personal attacks. Only the weak-minded will fall victim to the incoherent language he uses. The ideas are poorly articulated and makes it just sound like someone who has been smoking too much funny stuff. Unless the main ideas are not more clearly laid out no intelligent being will take them seriously.

                              Sick or not sick, it is difficult to diagnose on such a brief study. Even if it seems that he suffers from delusions of grandeur.

                              May God forgive us.

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                                al-amiyr
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                                @amnew

                                I will read all of your other posts. I just got to read a couple. I am just exhausted. Had a very long day. I can barely keep my eyes open now and most certainly can't think straight. Gosh, this has been going on and on. I am getting to the point of not caring. I logged in to see if al-amiyr answered my questions but of course, disappointed again. brickwall I think you are right that if he hasn't answered my simple straight forward questions by now then he is not going to. Well, I am going to bed now as my eyes are starting to cross here.

                                Anyhow, thanks for your concerns. May I ask what you mean by having a background in psychiatry? Are you a psychiatrist? Are you a non-hadith follower? I dont think i saw your intro. forgive me if you did, but i am really exhausted now. What made you decide to join this forum? Would like to know and it would help to know who you are. Hopefully, you will answer my questions. Ok I really need to be in bed now. Goodnight.

                                But look at the compromise we made but now you seem to speak a different tone. Tell me why? Is it because you are about to see that all your questions are going to be answered.
                                Do you know that I spent 15 hours working on your questions. You asked me to answer one or two per day. I did not just give you a short silly answer but also began providing you with backed up facts.
                                Remember one thing and that is that ALLAAH is aware of all our actions. Let me remind you of our agreement which you yourself wrote online for all the world to read.

                                I think this a good compromise. Don't get me wrong, I too want to read all of your 20 posts. I would appreciate if you could also help me along by answering one of my simple questions one day at a time. It is like you read the Koran but you also want to know who prophet Muhammed was. Just the same, I want to know who you are.

                                Actually, I think that I have not asked you nearly all the questions that I asked about prophet Muhammed and other messengers. Were they all suffering from delusional religious grandiosity? It is by way of questioning we learn and come to the truth. Don't you agree?

                                I am eagerly awaiting to read your posts and answers to my questions. So continue on. I am dying to know about your educational background. What is your profession? Do you hold degrees? You seem so highly intelligent.

                                My dear sister be wise. All my forefathers up to the prophet (S+) were teachers of ALLAAH and His Qur"aan. Almost all the prophets in the Qur'aan are linked to one family. ALLAAH says that His sunnah will never change. One of the ways in which to identify false prophets is to see if they possess a genealogy. Do not take risks. Your entire future is at stake if you do that. Make the right choice! Seek the knowledge! Do not accept what I have to say. First listen and study and then draw your own conclusions based on knowledge. Do you think that it is right for any body to advise someone else not even to give another a hearing? I leave that thought with you.

                                May ALLAAH guide all inshaa allaah.

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                                  savage_carrot
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                                  Do you know that I spent 15 hours working on your questions. You asked me to answer one or two per day. I did not just give you a short silly answer but also began providing you with backed up facts.
                                  Perhaps like IAMOP mentioned, one could work on disseminating the so called knowledge instead of wasting time. Unless that's the game plan 'I'll just claim these agents of ShayTaan waylaid me'...seeing as how allegedly it's in the blood to pass the knowledge on, spending time on diatribes and exchanging volleys doesn't seem like the best way to execute one's mission in life... or to be unaware of distractions and not stay focused when al amiyr himself claims we must beware such.

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                                    Perhaps like IAMOP mentioned, one could work on disseminating the so called knowledge instead of wasting time. Unless that's the game plan 'I'll just claim these agents of ShayTaan waylaid me'...seeing as how allegedly it's in the blood to pass the knowledge on, spending time on diatribes and exchanging volleys doesn't seem like the best way to execute one's mission in life... or to be unaware of distractions and not stay focused when al amiyr himself claims we must beware such.

                                    Well I agree. I think al-amiyr must not get involved in these kind of debates. I joined the forum to learn more.Recommended by a friend who knows al-amiyr. I live near cape town am not Moslem but I am eager to learn more about various religions. I have also asked two friends to join but these petty fights is a put off.

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                                      farida
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                                      Well I agree. I think al-amiyr must not get involved in these kind of debates. I joined the forum to learn more.Recommended by a friend who knows al-amiyr. I live near cape town am not Moslem but I am eager to learn more about various religions. I have also asked two friends to join but these petty fights is a put off.

                                      Salaam

                                      Have you seen the sudden campaigns against brother al-amiyr. This was predicted by him in "ShayTaan And His Allies In The World's Forums" thread. Do not worry insha allaah no more tricks by ShayTeen will work.
                                      True believers will rejoice

                                      The Sword of Truth has arrived to slay falsehood
                                      and
                                      to establish its dominion over where it rightfully belongs.

                                      Salaam

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                                        al-amiyr
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                                        Salaam

                                        Have you seen the sudden campaigns against brother al-amiyr. This was predicted by him in "ShayTaan And His Allies In The World's Forums" thread. Do not worry insha allaah no more tricks by ShayTeen will work.
                                        True believers will rejoice

                                        The Sword of Truth has arrived to slay falsehood
                                        and
                                        to establish its dominion over where it rightfully belongs.

                                        Salaam

                                        as-salaamu "alaykum sister farida

                                        Thanks always to support the knowledge of ALLAAH as He wrote it in the Qur'aan. Until in the tenth of this month I have a mission to prove as outlined on the first. But since that very moment the onslaughts began one after the other. Strange that none actually challenged the knowledge that I presented. That in itself must tell you something. Have you seen the latest campaign to declare me a madman. I feel honored by it. Did you know that every messenger that ALLAAH sent into the world was declared madmen. The only exception to this was the people of Jonah.
                                        This will be my last response. Two subjects will be the focus of my attention inshaa allaah. ALL those who are waiting for the knowledge can keep this as my final word inshaa allaah.

                                        wa "alaykum-us-salaam.

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                                          savage_carrot
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                                          Well I agree. I think al-amiyr must not get involved in these kind of debates. I joined the forum to learn more.Recommended by a friend who knows al-amiyr. I live near cape town am not Moslem but I am eager to learn more about various religions. I have also asked two friends to join but these petty fights is a put off.

                                          Really, not Moslem but wanting to learn about various religions and rather than learning about various religions on the whole wide internet you end up on this forum blatantly egging this particular dude on? Is this your post here I am a Sunni and I speak Arabic and can read the Quran in its original language, can you? Did you suffer a momentary lapse of confused identity syndrome? With Space Traveler perchance? Is Moslem not equated to Sunni in your parlance? Whatever you say.

                                          Given you plus your 2 'friends', there are a lot more than several accounts and possibly more from the Holy Mountain area all in the span of weeks apparently just for this purpose, some are even waiting in the wings for their chance to shine with zero posts...you must think we're morons. Al-amiyr and his henchies can consider this a warning. We're done playing games.

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