Questions about al-amiyr
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I am opening up this thread as I am sure others especially the lurkers might have the same questions about al-amiyr. i am asking al-amiyr and/or his supporters to answer as your answers would be appreciated.
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Name of the son of prophet Muhammed who he taught this knowledge to first? And the name of Mohammed's grandson who was then taught these lessons.
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Was this knowledge written down by prophet or was it transmitted orally through the generations?
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Who and when was this knowledge written down?
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What is your full name al-Amyr? Correct spelling.
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Al-Amyr - are you Shia, Sunni, Sufi? None of the above? Can you declare your faith and beliefs.
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What is your educational background? Do you have professional degrees?
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How many people in your family possess this knowledge?
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When did your family go public?
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How old were you when you started to learn these lessons from your father?
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Do you have a website?
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You mentioned that you published two articles in a local Muslim newspaper in 1991. Can you please name the newspaper and the date it was published.
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Have you published your works anywhere else? If so, please provide reference.
I have lot of questions but will stop here for how. I am asking simple straight forward questions which would not take much time to answer. You don't have to answer all at once. Just the first two for now.
If you don't answer, I would like to know why?
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Peace,
I do not understand him at all of what he wrote in his posts in his threads. Maybe God protects me so I am simply not grasping it. I read like 12 posts about some miracle and I could not understand the point, even if I read them more than once. The language is very incoherent to me. It was just some mumbo jumbo.
Sorry if these words were irrelevant to the topic.
May God lead us into the light.
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I am opening up this thread as I am sure others especially the lurkers might have the same questions about al-amiyr. i am asking al-amiyr and/or his supporters to answer as your answers would be appreciated.
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Name of the son of prophet Muhammed who he taught this knowledge to first? And the name of Mohammed's grandson who was then taught these lessons.
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Was this knowledge written down by prophet or was it transmitted orally through the generations?
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Who and when was this knowledge written down?
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What is your full name al-Amyr? Correct spelling.
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Al-Amyr - are you Shia, Sunni, Sufi? None of the above? Can you declare your faith and beliefs.
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What is your educational background? Do you have professional degrees?
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How many people in your family possess this knowledge?
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When did your family go public?
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How old were you when you started to learn these lessons from your father?
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Do you have a website?
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You mentioned that you published two articles in a local Muslim newspaper in 1991. Can you please name the newspaper and the date it was published.
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Have you published your works anywhere else? If so, please provide reference.
I have lot of questions but will stop here for how. I am asking simple straight forward questions which would not take much time to answer. You don't have to answer all at once. Just the first two for now.
If you don't answer, I would like to know why?
The messenger of ALLAAH (S+) had no surviving son. His heirs were the two sons of his daughter married to his close cousin Ali ibn abi taalib. I have already given twice the genealogy. But you never seem to read. So responding to you is useless. And I quote what I wrote to you in the http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604833.0 thread,
Then don't be cunning to post insinuations that I send Pms to you which I never did. And then act in a decent manner when speaking. Then ask me one or two questions at a time instead of rambling off a dozen which will require full explanations. And don't make derogatory remarks when addressing the issue. Play the ball and not the man. Then I will address all your issues and know that you are not an agent of some Madtrix inshaa allaah.
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The messenger of ALLAAH (S+) had no surviving son. His heirs were the two sons of his daughter married to his close cousin Ali ibn abi taalib. I have already given twice the genealogy. But you never seem to read. So responding to you is useless. And I quote what I wrote to you in the http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604833.0 thread,
Thanks for clarifying. Before I opened up this thread, I did read the genealogy that you gave but just wasn't clear to me.
Al-Amiyr, you keep constantly putting me down. I understand how frustrating it can get when people just don't get what you are saying and trying to explain but I would appreciate it if you stop putting me down over and over again. Telling me "but you never seem to read. so responding to you is useless" is another put down.
I thought that prophet Muhammed didn't have a son. I just know his daughter Fatima and her twin boys. When you said how this knowledge was passed on from father to son, it just struck me. May be, something else that I didn't know? May be had a son and we don't know about. Thanks for answering this question.
So, prophet Muhammed passed this knowledge to his grandsons - both of them?
Al-Amiyr, listen if I tell my mom or my family about all that you are saying. The first question they will ask me is "who is this guy"? There are so many threads and easy to get lost and confused. Which is why I opened up this thread for questions. I would think that the answers to my questions would not take more than a line or two to answer.
I don't believe that you have provided a clear cut answers to my questions which i am sure others who are reading the posts might also have. If you have, please forgive me and answer them again here or refer me to the answers. Or may be someone else can help.
Al-amiyr, Could you please put aside your opinion of me as it is clear that you don't think much of me and I would like to know why though but that is not for this thread. I would just appreciate it if you could answer the rest of the questions. Thanks.
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Thanks for clarifying. Before I opened up this thread, I did read the genealogy that you gave but just wasn't clear to me.
Al-Amiyr, you keep constantly putting me down. I understand how frustrating it can get when people just don't get what you are saying and trying to explain but I would appreciate it if you stop putting me down over and over again. Telling me "but you never seem to read. so responding to you is useless" is another put down.
I thought that prophet Muhammed didn't have a son. I just know his daughter Fatima and her twin boys. When you said how this knowledge was passed on from father to son, it just struck me. May be, something else that I didn't know? May be had a son and we don't know about. Thanks for answering this question.
So, prophet Muhammed passed this knowledge to his grandsons - both of them?
Al-Amiyr, listen if I tell my mom or my family about all that you are saying. The first question they will ask me is "who is this guy"? There are so many threads and easy to get lost and confused. Which is why I opened up this thread for questions. I would think that the answers to my questions would not take more than a line or two to answer.
I don't believe that you have provided a clear cut answers to my questions which i am sure others who are reading the posts might also have. If you have, please forgive me and answer them again here or refer me to the answers. Or may be someone else can help.
Al-amiyr, Could you please put aside your opinion of me as it is clear that you don't think much of me and I would like to know why though but that is not for this thread. I would just appreciate it if you could answer the rest of the questions. Thanks.
as-salaamu "alaykum justmuslim
Your questions are all valid. I am accustomed to all these questions over many forums and I have answered most of the time all them to great satisfaction. You must also understand that it is not easy for me to just answer because I need to substantiate what I say. My real intention is to speak about this knowledge. I do not say that no questions must be asked.
I have spoken to thousands during the years in many lectures. I have made it clear that this knowledge is not in Book form. It is a program upon which the Qur'aan is based. It must be understood. It is the meanings of the letters of the Qur'aan and it is called the Book (al-kitaab). Why do you not examine if this is factual what I am presenting. I promise you that you will be amazed at it and see how great this knowledge is and how much more you will love ALLAAH and The Qur'aan.
If you go back to our previous correspondence you will see that you did not speak to me in a proper manner and therefore I have responded accordingly. I have never maligned anybody on this forum in any way. I just try and do my own thing. But I also do not think that it is right for people to take me out of context and put over an incorrect impression.
I think that both of us can have intelligent discussion on both our terms. what do you think of that?shukran and salaam
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Peace,
I do not understand him at all of what he wrote in his posts in his threads. Maybe God protects me so I am simply not grasping it. I read like 12 posts about some miracle and I could not understand the point, even if I read them more than once. The language is very incoherent to me. It was just some mumbo jumbo.
Sorry if these words were irrelevant to the topic.
May God lead us into the light.
Nice post @Man of Faith.
I agree, it is still quite obscure... eventually we'll see some kind of result?
As I wrote once in the thread to @al-amyir, I hope he is not spreading some kind of mysticism, for me mysticism is creating problems where they do not exist, and honesty is solving problems where they do exist... -
Al-Amiyr,
Thank you for your post.
I know what your intentions are. I cannot reach the end point till some things are clear to me from the start and along the way. Keep in mind that you are presenting information to the public where your audiences are coming from all walks if life, different background, at different stages in their faith and evoluation towards God. As you have lectured this knowldge for years, i am sure you have much experience dealing with students at different levels.
You are presenting information that I have never heard of before and goes against everything that I know of to be the truth. In order for me to get to where you want me to be, I need some clarifications. Also keep in mind that you are talking to a non-hadith follower.
Ok so this knowledge is not in book form. I think that I get that. But I don't think that you are getting me, al-Amiyr. Your lessons are in a written format. You are writing it down and posting it. You are not teaching me this lesson orally. You have posted it in other forums. You said you have written articles published in local newspaper. Do you understand what I am saying now? You are communicating to us of this knowledge in written format. You are teaching us of this knowledge in a written medium.
And that is what I was asking. Just as you are doing now, did your dad teach you this knowledge in written form or was it verbal? Now going back to the beginning, did prophet Muhammed teach this knowledge which I understand is not in book form but did he teach this knowledge to his grandson like you have been doing or did he teach it orally? That is all i am asking.
I hope that we are now in the same page. I think that I am asking some simple questions which doesn't really involve substantiating. Ok - if I tell my mom what I am learning from you, she is going to ask me who you are and a whole bunch of questions.
You said that you have given lectures for years. Where? Are you a professor? What kind of professor? What is your profession? Educational background? you seem very highly intelligent.
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If you go back to our previous correspondence you will see that you did not speak to me in a proper manner and therefore I have responded accordingly. I have never maligned anybody on this forum in any way. I just try and do my own thing. But I also do not think that it is right for people to take me out of context and put over an incorrect impression.
I think that both of us can have intelligent discussion on both our terms. what do you think of that?shukran and salaam
i would appreciate it if you would let me know how you would want me to speak to you. What would you consider to be a proper way of speaking to you? Can you let me know how i spoke to you before so that I won't speak to you like that again. I think that we have had a break through here - don't you agree? To avoid set backs, I think it would be best if you could let me know what is proper way for me to speak. Thanks.
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Nice post @Man of Faith.
I agree, it is still quite obscure... eventually we'll see some kind of result?
As I wrote once in the thread to @al-amyir, I hope he is not spreading some kind of mysticism, for me mysticism is creating problems where they do not exist, and honesty is solving problems where they do exist... )I guess we all need to be patient.
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i would appreciate it if you would let me know how you would want me to speak to you. What would you consider to be a proper way of speaking to you? Can you let me know how i spoke to you before so that I won't speak to you like that again. I think that we have had a break through here - don't you agree? To avoid set backs, I think it would be best if you could let me know what is proper way for me to speak. Thanks.
Thank you justmuslim
The way you speak now I consider perfect communication. Nothing more is expected. This way we can all correspond effectively without adding what is unnecessary. I agree fully with what you have said above. I will get back to all your questions as I am more eager to speak about it than you would like to hear. I am working on post 15 and it will be easy. Remember I have a deadline that I must fulfill and there are many who are waiting but I will give everyday one or two answers inshaa allaah. Let me hear your suggestions.
al-amiyr
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Thank you justmuslim
The way you speak now I consider perfect communication. Nothing more is expected. This way we can all correspond effectively without adding what is unnecessary. I agree fully with what you have said above. I will get back to all your questions as I am more eager to speak about it than you would like to hear. I am working on post 15 and it will be easy. Remember I have a deadline that I must fulfill and there are many who are waiting but I will give everyday one or two answers inshaa allaah. Let me hear your suggestions.
al-amiyr
I think this a good compromise. Don't get me wrong, I too want to read all of your 20 posts. I would appreciate if you could also help me along by answering one of my simple questions one day at a time. It is like you read the Koran but you also want to know who prophet Muhammed was. Just the same, I want to know who you are.
Actually, I think that I have not asked you nearly all the questions that I asked about prophet Muhammed and other messengers. Were they all suffering from delusional religious grandiosity? It is by way of questioning we learn and come to the truth. Don't you agree?
I am eagerly awaiting to read your posts and answers to my questions. So continue on. I am dying to know about your educational background. What is your profession? Do you hold degrees? You seem so highly intelligent.
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Peace,
I do not understand him at all of what he wrote in his posts in his threads. Maybe God protects me so I am simply not grasping it. I read like 12 posts about some miracle and I could not understand the point, even if I read them more than once. The language is very incoherent to me. It was just some mumbo jumbo.
Sorry if these words were irrelevant to the topic.
May God lead us into the light.
Peace Man of Faith
You stated the following,
I read like 12 posts about some miracle
Could you point out where I stated anywhere in that thread about some miracle? I am trying to figure out why so many are misreading what I said.
Thank you
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Al-Amiyr,
I am asking you to please stay focused as you have a deadline to meet and I am just dying for some answers. When I saw that you had posted, I was excited but then only disappointed that I didn't get my questions answered.
Ok - you are now torturing me here. Could you please put me out of my misery a little by answering - what is your educational background? It is hard for me to fully concentrate on your posts when I keep wondering who you are.
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Al-Amiyr,
I am asking you to please stay focused as you have a deadline to meet and I am just dying for some answers. When I saw that you had posted, I was excited but then only disappointed that I didn't get my questions answered.
Ok - you are now torturing me here. Could you please put me out of my misery a little by answering - what is your educational background? It is hard for me to fully concentrate on your posts when I keep wondering who you are.
Do you mean only graduates with high education are allowed to think here.
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I think this a good compromise. Don't get me wrong, I too want to read all of your 20 posts. I would appreciate if you could also help me along by answering one of my simple questions one day at a time. It is like you read the Koran but you also want to know who prophet Muhammed was. Just the same, I want to know who you are.
Actually, I think that I have not asked you nearly all the questions that I asked about prophet Muhammed and other messengers. Were they all suffering from delusional religious grandiosity? It is by way of questioning we learn and come to the truth. Don't you agree?
I am eagerly awaiting to read your posts and answers to my questions. So continue on. I am dying to know about your educational background. What is your profession? Do you hold degrees? You seem so highly intelligent.
+salaam justmuslim
You have proven to me that you are much more intelligent and truthful than I thought. It has now come to my understanding that your eagerness for the upholding of truth has been a factor in my judgement. Your intelligence and truthful manner has now appeared like a ray of light upon unsparkled horizon.
Because of this I have been inspired to put all your questions together and hope that you will ask all the others you said you still had. I will even add more questions to the list if that will be required.
You said and I quote,
I think this a good compromise.You also said and I quote,
I too want to read all of your 20 posts.And then again you also said and I quote again,
I would appreciate if you could also help me along by answering one of my simple questions one day at a time. It is like you read the Koran but you also want to know who prophet Muhammed was.And finally you said and finally I quote,
Just the same, I want to know who you are.I think we can make the best compromise. It is called fifty fifty. Here is my proposal.
For every question that I have answered for you in this thread = you will read one of my posts about the Book (al-kitaab) and comment what I post for you in this thread.
What do you think of that?The Qur'aan 04238
Those who respond to their Lord
and establish salat,
and manage their affairs by mutual consultation
and give of what We have provided for them.wa "alaykum-us-salaam
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Do you mean only graduates with high education are allowed to think here.
Absolutely not. How did you understand that from my posts? No, not at all. I just want to know who al-Amiyr is. He comes across as a highly intelligent person. Just my observation.
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No answer to my questions! brickwall You are killing me, al-Amiyr! I don't want to lose all faith in you once again.
Wait a minute. We already had a deal. Ok so now what you are saying is that you will tell me who you are if I do what you want me to do. Hmmm.....this doesn't sound like a compromise or proposal to me at all. Nope, our deal was that you
Remember I have a deadline that I must fulfill and there are many who are waiting but I will give everyday one or two answers inshaa allaah. Let me hear your suggestions.
al-amiyr
So now you have 9 more days to get to your posts and what you are asking me to do is not a good thing and it will delay your posting. I do not want to do that and get everyone here upset. Besides the fact that it is back to work tomorrow and I know that I may not have much time to sit and go through your lessons in the way that I need to without distractions. I don't want to rush through your lessons, not get what you are saying then you will get frustrated with me for not reading your posts, chew me up like you did before. Not good.
When you just clear your mind of everything and follow your posts, it is like you are entering a different world. I can tell you that I won't be able to clear my mind and read your lessons in the way you want me to. I have so many other things going on but don't want to burden you with my issues.
I don't want to tell you that I will do something and not be able to keep my end of the deal. So, let's go back to our original deal where you will continue your posting while helping me along also by answering my questions.
I won't be able to get to your lessons at your pace, although I am waiting to see like everyone else. Impatient at times. But unlike others, I cannot clear my mind for too long reading your lessons as these questions keep popping into my head. I think that my head is going to explode with these questions.
You know what happens when you have all these questions in your head and no answers? Satan starts whispering in my ears. Only you and you know that only you can shut satan up. So, i would really appreciate if you do and answer my questions, helping me also as you continue. Thanks.