We are God
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Peace affy,
Just do not forget the Communion (salah) in a moderate tone. Meaning having a connection to God. Well, I will be revealing more about that in my Nearness and Guidance thread. But you are right that you ought to meditate for quite some time per day to be optimally serving God as per chapter 73 of 'The Book' (Qur'an).
God bless you
ps. I think I could agree that the title of the thread is inappropriate.
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'Meditation in the Qur-an' is a topic that I am currently writing for discussions in 'Sufism Without Borders' (on yahoogroups). And I hope to post the same article on FM too, since I have noticed that past discussions on 'meditation' in FM has been somewhat sporadic.
In the intended article i will, insha allah, be discussing on the origins and types of meditations, perhaps on how to perform meditations, the objectives and benefits, as well as what could happen to us when we perform meditations. The meditations by Moosa will undoubtedly be a special highlight, as also the meditations by Muhammad the nabiyy.
I will post the article as soon as possible but i sensed that it may take a week or two, or perhaps even a month or two to prepare based on the notes that I have made in my studies of the Qur-an.
May God guide us all correctly.
Cheers!
Mohammed NohSalam all,
The article is still in the works. But I'll post it as soon it is ready.
Apologies in the meantime.
mohammed noh
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If you read the first post in the thread it is clear that the title is a suggestion for discussion not an absolute statement, therefore it cannot be blasphemous.
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Everywhere there is the presence of God, and nowhere is there no presence of God.
God is not separate from I or you - therefore I am God and you are God, we are all God!
Discuss....
Good question and not blasphemous at all.
God encompasses and includes all things.
Existence encompasses and includes all things.
We are in existence/we are a part of existence. Being a part of existence is not the same as being existence.
So we are not God just as we are not existence. -
Must Read and try to understand what I want you to make you understand
On a fundamental level almighty is formless and beyound the quality of nature if you disagree with this statement it means you're saying that he requires his senses to perform any job.A formless God is capable of acquiring any form a/c to his will means he manifest himself in different forms so by this principal this whole cosmos is a manifestation of God and thats why everything is God
Now comes the problem that if every thing is God than when everything destroys than God should also extinct no it is not possible ,as tides emerges from ocean exists in it and dissolved in it and basicaly the ocean and the tides are one similarly this whole cosmos originates from God exist in him and dissolves in him and basically they are one
Those who don't beleive in panthiesm I want to ask only one question that if in the beginning when there was only presence of God than name the material from which he created this whole cosmos?
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Everywhere there is the presence of God, and nowhere is there no presence of God.
God is not separate from I or you - therefore I am God and you are God, we are all God!
Discuss....
Great topic. . I believe we are but not in that sense since . . .
Say, "He is Allah , One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
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A song that sounds to me like the singer is saying we/us (i.e. consciousness) is God. Used in The Lion King Movie(s), video can be found on Youtube. The song by itself is beautiful, here are the lyrics...
?He Lives In You? (Reprise) lyrics
Music and Lyrics by Mark Mancina, Jay Rifkin, and Lebo M
Performed by Tsiidi Le Loka and Jason RaizeNight and the spirit of life calling mamela
And a voice just the fear of a child answers mamelaUbu khosi bo khokho
We ndodana ye sizwe sonkeWait, there's no mountain too great
Hear the words and have faith
Have faithHe lives in you
He lives in meHe watches over
Everything we see
Into the water
Into the truth
In your reflection
He lives in youHe lives in you
He lives in me
He watches over
Everything we see
Into the water
Into the truth
In your reflection
He lives in youHe lives in you
He lives in you
He lives in you
He lives in youHe lives in you
He lives in me
He watches over
Everything we see
Into the water
Into the truth
In your reflection
He lives in youHe lives in you
He lives in me
He watches over
Everything we see
Into the water
Into the truth
In your reflection
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If consciousness is God than who created humans before we became conscious/god. Maybe space aliens - annunaki to mine gold for them? rotfl
This is nothing but modern age BS, intoduction to one world religion by these guys
http//www.christianworldviewinstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/New-World-Order.jpg
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Peace.
What one is conscious of is what is one's truth.
God be praised, he says He is the truth manifested
024025 Pickthal
On that day Allah will pay them their just due, and they will know that Allah, He is the Manifest Truth.Ergo, human consciousness = God as we know Him
...or simply We are God!
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Peace.
What one is conscious of is what is one's truth.
God be praised, he says He is the truth manifested
024025 Pickthal
On that day Allah will pay them their just due, and they will know that Allah, He is the Manifest Truth.Ergo, human consciousness = God as we know Him
...or simply We are God!
You didnt answer my question.
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I thought I did but maybe you just need to try thinking laterally...
If consciousness is God than who created humans before we became conscious/god
The answer to a question is usually in the question itself. In this case
Question If consciousness is God than who created humans before we became conscious/god
Answer Before we were created as humans we were consciousness/God.
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The following is apt I think
The Encyclopedia of Celtic Mythology and Folklore
By Patricia Monaghan"...Implicit in monotheism is dualism, in that whatever is not ?god? becomes ?not-god?; thus monotheistic religion is inclined to develop a theology that includes evil.''
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Everything you said here Jane goes against the Quran, you even reject the existance of evil. Pharaoh said that he is god and we all know how he finished ;D
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg-55VLQw04
If you read the quote properly it was pointing out that evil can be as much a part of monotheism as other religious/philosophical thinking. Even if you have rejected polytheism, the trinity, hadith etc that does not mean you are automatically 'safe'. If you are still worshipping a god-like 'great power in the sky' persona, even if it is only one of them...I think this is still idol worship.
And as far as I remember Pharaoh claimed the people in Egypt should worship him, he did not say he was God. He did not believe in what he saw as the one god of the Israelites - why would he claim to be something even he didn't believe in?
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Some people could benefit from thinking laterally I think. Yes humans are not God and God is not human; but I mean the part of us that is not physical, our souls, our awareness is either what God is/may be/or is how God reveals himself to us - as us, I think...
Food for thought eat When alcoholics go on their famous 12-step recovery programme, a huge part, if not their main focus, I believe, is submission to their 'Higher Self' (as they avoid the name God)...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program. It apparently has high success rates for those who stick at it and has been adopted by other groups seeking relief from addictions. What is your 'Higher Self' then? It is/may be God, I think.
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Some people could benefit from thinking laterally I think. Yes humans are not God and God is not human; but I mean the part of us that is not physical, our souls, our awareness is either what God is/may be/or is how God reveals himself to us - as us, I think...
Food for thought eat When alcoholics go on their famous 12-step recovery programme, a huge part, if not their main focus, I believe, is submission to their 'Higher Self' (as they avoid the name God)...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-step_program. It apparently has high success rates for those who stick at it and has been adopted by other groups seeking relief from addictions. What is your 'Higher Self' then? It is/may be God, I think.
You should stop believing in everything you read on internet.
I have been thinking about this years ago and I dont really believe in that. Part of you that is not physical is your soul. Your soul is your 'higher self', your mind, your awarness and consciousness. Meditation is also known as "Deep Thinking", buddhists and sufi muslims use meditation to activate their "third eye", basically what they do is looking at their "higher self", their soul, their mind, part of us that never die.
Your soul is a software that runs in a hardware(your body), it is a creation not a Creator. -
Some sufis had this idea, like Abu bisthami, Al hallaaj etc. At the height of their delirium, at the state of fanaa, they have declared themselves God. They declared 'an al haq/ i am the truth ' and believed they and God had become one. Al hallaaj was later executed for saying hajj can be done spiritually from within one's own home.
But this belief were already in hinduism which is called 'aham brahmasmi / i am the absolute God' . Nowadays the shaivite sanyasis who has this kind of beliefs usually use ganja and other drugs.
A shock treatment might cure this.